Author Topic: Is it true that we recommend we eat less processed foods?  (Read 6513 times)

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2014, 09:01:24 PM »


Do you think there are any unhealthy foods or ingredients? Like Nitrates, or BHA/BHT?

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2014, 09:02:02 PM »
There aren't thankfully, except for the bizarre laws in NY and LA.
If you keep supporting the unscientific myth based anti-gmo movement and anti-food movement (which conservative shitbrains and liberal shitbrains somehow agree on), you will get things like this:

California Democrat Introduces Nanny State Bill Requiring Warning Labels on Sugary Drinks

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/02/16/california-bill-would-require-warning-labels-on-sugary-drinks-n1795066

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2014, 09:03:07 PM »
I'd say, let's stop thinking about these "rules" and go off of how foods make us look/ feel.

 I generally cook my own stuff from unadulterated ingredients. Of course I'll eat the worst foods imaginable, too, but I'm not eating them for energy or for my appearance. I'm an advocate for hippie foods because conventional stuff just doesn't make me feel good. This doesn't mean ALL non "natural"/organic foods are bad. For example, Nabisco grahams give me a stay in bed all day kind of headache...honey maid does not. I'm pretty sure I checked both labels and they were identical, except the Nabisco grahams have sulfites/sulfates/whatever. So, for me personally, it's wise for me to follow the "limit processed foods" argument, because that limits the amount of ingredients that could make me feel sick.

Your whole post is a load of shit.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2014, 09:04:36 PM »
If you keep supporting the unscientific myth based anti-gmo movement and anti-food movement (which conservative shitbrains and liberal shitbrains somehow agree on), you will get things like this:

California Democrat Introduces Nanny State Bill Requiring Warning Labels on Sugary Drinks

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/02/16/california-bill-would-require-warning-labels-on-sugary-drinks-n1795066

If companies think their customers care they should label their products Non GMO or Organic, if not don't. No one is forcing anyone to buy the unknown products.

I only have a problem with NON GMO farmers being sued and shut down when their fields are contaminated by GMO through no fault of their own.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2014, 09:05:26 PM »

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2014, 09:06:14 PM »
Your whole post is a load of shit.

I feel like you could name any chemical and Adonis would say it's okay to consume it.

Can I drink benzine?  ??? ;D

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2014, 09:07:11 PM »
Why?
Because in a blind taste test you wouldn`t know the difference.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2014, 09:08:16 PM »
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Sulfites are counted among the top nine food allergens, but a reaction to sulfite is not a true allergy.[9] Some people (but not many) have positive skin allergy tests to sulfites indicating true (IgE-mediated) allergy.[10] It may cause breathing difficulty within minutes after eating a food containing it,[11] asthmatics[12][13] and possibly people with salicylate sensitivity (or aspirin sensitivity)[14][15] are at an elevated risk for reaction to sulfites. Anaphylaxis and life threatening reactions are rare.[10] Other symptoms include sneezing, swelling of the throat, and hives.[15]

In the U.S., labeling regulations do not require products to indicate the presence of sulfites in foods unless it is added specifically as a preservative;[8] however, many companies voluntarily label sulfite-containing foods. Sulfites used in food processing, but not specifically added as a preservative, are only required to be listed if there are more than 10 parts per million (ppm) in the finished product.

The products most likely to contain sulfites (fruits and alcoholic beverages less than 10ppm) do not require ingredients labels, so the presence of sulfites usually is undisclosed.

In 1986, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration banned the use of sulfites as preservatives on foods intended to be eaten fresh (such as salad ingredients).[8] This has contributed to the increased use of erythorbic acid and its salts as preservatives.[16]

In Australia and New Zealand, sulfites must be declared in the statement of ingredients when present in packaged foods in concentrations of 10 mg/kg (ppm) or more as an ingredient; or as an ingredient of a compound ingredient; or as a food additive or component of a food additive; or as a processing aid or component of a processing aid.[17]

Sulfites are widely used to extend the shelf life of products. Because it is often difficult to know whether a food contains sulfites, people may not realize they have a sensitivity to sulfites when they are having reactions to food or drinks. Sulfites are also known to destroy vitamin B1 (thiamin),[18] a vitamin essential for metabolism of carbohydrates and alcohol.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2014, 09:09:59 PM »
Well, fruits have ENZYMES that are beneficial for your overall health. Papain, bromelain, etc. I have no idea what happen to those enzymes once the fruits are processed.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2014, 09:11:22 PM »
It wouldn`t matter one bit if their caloric intake was too high to begin with.  Obese people are not suffering from lack of nutrients or lack of nutrition.  I would encourage them to eat three meals a day and cook each meal and have only one serving of each meal.  

The food isn`t the problem, just like the gun is not the problem.  Its the moron behind the fork or the trigger that is the problem.

What the fuck do you know about anything Smeagol? Most Americans are overfed and undernourished. One look at their dietary habits will tell you that. You don't believe a thing your saying on this. You're an ideologue. You come up with stupid impractical ideas because you don't understand human beings. Not that that's a surprise to anyone. You're an empty vessel. A Godless, wanna-be, spindly, little putz. Cut the act Ables, the jig has been up for a long time. You're not nearly as clever or witty or whatever other delusion of grandeur you have of yourself.

Get with the program. You have absolutely no clue what's going on in the real world. So get your skinny little parenthesis looking legs back in the kitchen with ladies and make us some biscuits till you learn a thing or two. Adonis principles...Oh brother.  ::)


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Re: Is it true
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2014, 09:14:30 PM »
Because in a blind taste test you wouldn`t know the difference.

No, but I do get headaches from eating certain things. My mother had terrible migraines for YEARS before realizing that bread gave her a headache. Then she realized it was the yeast. Along with yeast, she'll get migraines from MSG (yeast), alcohol, lunchmeats, and some other stuff.

Only things that give me headaches are sulfates/sulfites and sometimes chewing gum.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2014, 09:14:47 PM »
Well, fruits have ENZYMES that are beneficial for your overall health. Papain, bromelain, etc. I have no idea what happen to those enzymes once the fruits are processed.
Nothing really except that Frozen fruits and vegetables may contain HIGHER amounts of vitamins and better nutritional value as they are picked at their peak and then flash frozen.  When you have fresh produce from a store, you have no idea when it was picked or how long it has sat out or at what temperature.  Also, even farmers markets are notorious for selling less than average produce because all of their good stuff usually goes to local restaurants or local food stores or CSAs.


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Re: Is it true
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2014, 09:15:39 PM »
Well, fruits have ENZYMES that are beneficial for your overall health. Papain, bromelain, etc. I have no idea what happen to those enzymes once the fruits are processed.

I would think the fiber alone from replacing "junk food" with fresh vegetables would be beneficial?

How much does YUM brands pay True Adonis?  ;D

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2014, 09:17:24 PM »
What the fuck do you know about anything Smeagol? Most Americans are overfed and undernourished. One look at their dietary habits will tell you that. You don't believe a thing your saying on this. You're an ideologue. You come up with stupid impractical ideas because you don't understand human beings. Not that that's a surprise to anyone. You're an empty vessel. A Godless, wanna-be, spindly, little putz. Cut the act Ables, the jig has been up for a long time. You're not nearly as clever or witty or whatever other delusion of grandeur you have of yourself.

Get with the program. You have absolutely no clue what's going on in the real world. So get your skinny little parenthesis looking legs back in the kitchen with ladies and make us some biscuits till you learn a thing or two. Adonis principles...Oh brother.  ::)


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Re: Is it true
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2014, 09:19:11 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2449843/Frozen-food-IS-better-Higher-levels-vitamins-antioxidants.html

Frozen food IS better than fresh: Higher levels of vitamins and antioxidants in frozen fruit and vegetables say scientists

    Study finds two out of three foods found to have more nutrients if frozen
    Experts say frozen prevents cancer and aids the body, brain, skin and eyes
    'Results demonstrate frozen can be nutritionally comparable to fresh'


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Re: Is it true
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2014, 09:20:21 PM »
Professor Graham Bonwick(correct), of the University of Chester, said: ‘Unlike frozen, some fresh produce concentrations of antioxidant compounds exhibited a decrease during refrigerated storage to levels below those observed in the corresponding frozen produce. The effects were most noticeable in soft fruits.’

While the studies were independent, they were funded by the British Frozen Food Association, which speaks for producers.

Its director general, Brian Young, said: ‘Fast and highly organised methods of ‘harvest-to-freeze’ have evolved with the express purpose of minimising nutrient losses.

‘In contrast, ‘fresh’ food has been shown to spend up to a month in the chain of producers, wholesalers and retailers before consumers have access to store and prepare them.

‘During this time we know that product deterioration takes place - to the extent that they can have lower nutritional value than their frozen equivalent.’

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2014, 09:22:35 PM »
And what the fuck are you morons using this idiot as an authority figure on what's healthy and what's not for? Because he was a fatass that got in shape? Because he can cook? Because he portrays to you he's some Edomite Blue blood?

This moron wont even acknowledge the damage GMOs do. Or that organic is indeed better than GMO. Or the corruption behind it with the FDA and big corporations. Which is public. I swear some of guys just love blindly following people sometimes and you don't even know why. Not all of you obviously. Geez. Think for yourselves. He's trolling you.
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Re: Is it true
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2014, 09:22:52 PM »
Yeah, frozen really is better than fresh from a nutritional standpoint. So unless you want something to have a certain consistency or texture, just buy frozen.

Fun fact: freeze a whole banana, thaw, peel, and leave it in your refrigerator. It'll look just like a turd in color and consistency  ;D

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2014, 09:23:54 PM »
You're steering this in the direction of processed versus non processed fruits and vegetables, yet no one is disputing this.


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Re: Is it true
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2014, 09:25:03 PM »
You're steering this in the direction of processed versus non processed fruits and vegetables, yet no one is disputing this.


They are processed foods though.  Just like tuna in a can is a processed food or chicken in a can or green beans in a can.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2014, 09:26:23 PM »
Again....the answer is yes.

TA might not agree with but "experts" and "officials" recommend that.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2014, 09:26:50 PM »
They are processed foods though.  Just like tuna in a can is a processed food or chicken in a can or green beans in a can.

You're pretty smart TA, I know you know what they're referring to when they use the term processed.

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2014, 09:27:38 PM »
By processed food, I thought the OP meant stuff like oreos, juices, etc.  ::)

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Re: Is it true
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2014, 09:28:24 PM »
It wouldn`t matter one bit if their caloric intake was too high to begin with.  Obese people are not suffering from lack of nutrients or lack of nutrition.  I would encourage them to eat three meals a day and cook each meal and have only one serving of each meal.  

The food isn`t the problem, just like the gun is not the problem.  Its the moron behind the fork or the trigger that is the problem.

People arnt suffering from lack of nutrients?

Really. I like u. I beleive your.a true natural. But really.


Why is it suggested over 90 percent of people eat somethih like  under 10 percent of required magnesium day.almost zero k2 vitamin in.diet. zinc also severely low about half the minerals And vitamins.are severely low from eating.processed foods like breakfast of champions.McDonald's coffee And bagel. Average diet where is the nutrients...

Same for lunch Starbucks and a muffin . They are severlt missing nutrients. A calorie maybe a calorie but doesn't mean.a muffin.has same micronutrients as broclli spinich and cow liver does it?

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« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2014, 09:29:41 PM »
People arnt suffering from lack of nutrients?

Really. I like u. I beleive your.a true natural. But really.


Why is it suggested over 90 percent of people eat somethih like  under 10 percent of required magnesium day.almost zero k2 vitamin in.diet. zinc also severely low about half the minerals And vitamins.are severely low from eating.processed foods like breakfast of champions.McDonald's coffee And bagel. Average diet where is the nutrients...

Same for lunch Starbucks and a muffin . They are severlt missing nutrients. A calorie maybe a calorie but doesn't mean.a muffin.has same micronutrients as broclli spinich and cow liver does it?

He's trolling. Don't fall into it. He's not that stupid.
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