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[Uncle Junior]

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[Icelord]

by day 2 your head will hurt so bad
you'll be lying on your computer room floor moaning like a little bitch
i wouldnt do it

[AVBG]

Why are you so hellbent on sabotaging yourself Junior? Do you dislike yourself so much and therefore  overcompensate by showering others with cash/gifts?

[TEH boob]

5 days is psychotic. Try 36hrs first...it's difficult, but not impossible

[BAST]

skip the water too, like a real man.

[Nirvana]

Water is bad for you.

[galeniko]

and the injection whayts with that

[Icelord]

Don't forget the 3CCs of liquid chlomid

[TEMPER]

Lazar eats 4,000 calories a day. People who starve themselves like you end up skinny-fat...Like you. When will you learn?

You are anorexic man. It's not a joke it's an actual mental disorder and you have it...You need to be eating a lot (of the correct clean foods) to get big and shredded, not starving, you're doing more harm than good.

[el numero uno]

Water is overrated, try 7 days min.

[galeniko]

dont think lazar eats 4000 cals a day.


when?on christmas?


he also claims natural

[Icelord]

Lazar isn't natural, so let's not compare him to a guy whose system burns calories at a normal rate.
He also has an appreciable build, which means his metabolism is sky high
and probably gets most of his calories from sources other than carbs, other than on loading days and postworkout
not to mention, he might just be genetically gifted with good T3/4 levels

[galeniko]

Lazar isn't natural, so let's not compare him to a guy whose system burns calories at a normal rate.
He also has an appreciable build, which means his metabolism is sky high
and probably gets most of his calories from sources other than carbs, other than on loading days and postworkout
not to mention, he might just be genetically gifted with good T3/4 levels

nah stop it, hes not eating some special kinds of sardines, neither is he much bigger than me, the 4k calories does not get him abodyfat level like the above picture.

it is not happening.

[Icelord]

nah stop it, hes not eating some special kinds of sardines, neither is he much bigger than me, the 4k calories does not get him abodyfat level like the above picture.

it is not happening.

all that is true + he doesn't eat 4k, that was my implication
not that he gets 4k from proteins and fats
because we know that would take a shitload of keto-type food, and nobody does that and avoids being flat in the process

[TEMPER]

dont think lazar eats 4000 cals a day.


when?on christmas?


he also claims natural

He's that lean @ 6'0 200lbs he eats a shit ton.

Example day of his:


Meal 1: Oatmeal, Eggs, Peanut Butter & Grapefruit - 600+cal

Meal 2: Rice, Chicken & Broccoli - 600+ cal

Meal 3: Pasta, Tuna Fish & Avocado - 600+ cal

Meal 4: Rice, Chicken - 600+ cal

Meal 5: Salmon & Green Salad - 500cal

Meal 6: Chicken, Cottage Cheese & Broccoli - 600+ cal

3,500+ give or take...

[galeniko]

claims natural.

claims 4000cals


that is all

[Icelord]

He's that lean @ 6'0 200lbs he eats a shit ton.

Example day of his:


Meal 1: Oatmeal, Eggs, Peanut Butter & Grapefruit - 600+cal

Meal 2: Rice, Chicken & Broccoli - 600+ cal

Meal 3: Pasta, Tuna Fish & Avocado - 600+ cal

Meal 4: Rice, Chicken - 600+ cal

Meal 5: Salmon & Green Salad - 500cal

Meal 6: Chicken, Cottage Cheese & Broccoli - 600+ cal

3,500+ give or take...

nobody eats like that all year. Not Cutler, not him. No way. That's a precontest diet, except for the cottage cheese. What does he eat the rest of the time?

[Roger Bacon]

Please this is a serious question no bullshit troll answers:

The question is:

Theoretically how long can you do a water fast for (absolutely no food, protein drinks or anything) WHILE (and this is key) training for couple of hours everyday.

I want to try do 5 day water fast while training.

Is this realistic while weight training?

I expect after 48 hours to not really be able to do much, is this correct?

You should do the Dr. Oz Cleanse, it's great

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/dr-ozs-3-day-detox-cleanse-one-sheet

[Europe]

Water Fasting is meant to be a healing process for the body, means you're not suppose to train at all. You should rest and heal your body & mind. If you're afraid of losing gains/muscle bellies don't worry, you ain't losing muscle.. mostly water, some fat + very little muscle.
You see muscle is one of the last thing the body will use as a fuel, if you come to that stage you're in for starvation. To come to that stage you'll need to be minimum 28days water fasting. Proper water fasting can be done 40 days without starvation

3 stages of water fasting:
Pre-fast
Fasting
After-fast

want to know more? Google it you dumb b*tch!!

[galeniko]

He's that lean @ 6'0 200lbs he eats a shit ton.

Example day of his:


Meal 1: Oatmeal, Eggs, Peanut Butter & Grapefruit - 600+cal

Meal 2: Rice, Chicken & Broccoli - 600+ cal

Meal 3: Pasta, Tuna Fish & Avocado - 600+ cal

Meal 4: Rice, Chicken - 600+ cal

Meal 5: Salmon & Green Salad - 500cal

Meal 6: Chicken, Cottage Cheese & Broccoli - 600+ cal

3,500+ give or take...

nice copy pasta diet



you also believe hes natural?

have you ever been shreded?just asking

[Icelord]

I respect a physique like that just as much if I know he's cruising on gear while he's dieting/training. It doesn't take industrial amounts to get something like that. But it does affect how the training/diet affect his gains. Can't give a natty advice if you're not on the same playing field. There is a big diff between even 200mg/test a week and being natural, which is what - 30-70mg or so? lol

[galeniko]

hes lying about the most important part of all, the drugs, yet his diet somehow must be believeable.

haha, dont think so.

no gramms on the foods either on that diet laayout


@temper, whats up, have you ever been shredded or are you repeating hearsay?


i notice a ulling bck ,suddenly 4k calories is now 3500"give or take"

you talking with veterans here bro, this kind of bs doesnt fly with everyone.

speacial t3 levels?really?

[BAST]

claims natural.

claims 4000cals


that is all

I don't buy the natural but calories can be true if he's very active.

[TEMPER]

hes lying about the most important part of all, the drugs, yet his diet somehow must be believeable.

haha, dont think so.

no gramms on the foods either on that diet laayout


@temper, whats up, have you ever been shredded or are you repeating hearsay?


i notice a ulling bck ,suddenly 4k calories is now 3500"give or take"

you talking with veterans here bro, this kind of bs doesnt fly with everyone.

speacial t3 levels?really?

Lol of course the guy is not natural...Mr Olympia claims natural man cmon. All about sponsors selling protein to gullible 15 year old kids so everyone is natural.

I bring up a random fitness model type just to enforce the image that physiques are not built nor maintained on 1,000cal diets. I don't care what you say, if you need to eat 800 cal a day, or do some anorexic 80lb female "water fast" to lose weight you have epically fucked your whole system up possibly beyond repair.

Obviously Uncle Junior needs to realize the body he wants is almost certainly 100% drug dumpster induced, and without drugs what he is doing will only make him skinny-fat 180lb fool.

I have been 6'1 180lb 7% bf on 2,500+ cals a day yes...6 day 2,500 cal keto / 1 day 5,000cal+ carb induced coma - refeed day. Nothing impressive..

500mg test a week and 10mg exemestane per night was all I needed to keep a lean 180lbs...Was very easy and comfortable eating 2500 a day. Never once starved or ate 1,000 a day..Never.

The point here isn't Lazar, it isn't 4,000 cal it is Uncle Junior thinking a natural can eat 600 cal a day and not wind up looking like this...



He needs to eat, and for his purposes he needs drugs lol...Maybe slight doses but still drugs..

[Nicademus]

I think you (Joon) are just doing your body way more harm than good w/ this yo-yo starvation type of dieting.  Even if you get to your desired weight level or body fat comp you will still be very disappointed with the results.  The look will not be good or scream quality-believe me.

Which will lead to a crash in your psyche.  You'll feel like you suffered for nothing which in turn could be the start of an even more downward spiral in your approach.

Listen to vets here.  They've given you the blueprint. Just follow it.

At the very least, and I'm serious here.  Take the fitness chick approach-anavar and clen.  No hairloss which you mention, very mild, and at the very least it will prevent you from looking like a concentration camp survivor.