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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2014, 03:09:33 PM »
Have you seriously never become separated from friends in an unfamiliar place?  

(One of these days I'll regale y'all with a seriously funny and salacious story about my 3 work colleague's and me all becoming separated during a wild night in Rio's Copacabana back in 2007.)

Unless some other location has been talked about as a meeting place beforehand, it's perfectly reasonable to think that everyone will come back to the car.  

Yes I have.  I called their cell phones.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2014, 03:10:24 PM »
The ones who live do.  He was out numbered.  Apparently he didn't feel distressed because he wait for an hour doing nothing.

Hmmm.  I don't think facing potential conflict to protect others is what most soldiers would feel is "unnecessary", but maybe I'm wrong.  

I'm no longer a soldier.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2014, 03:10:30 PM »
Yep


Fu*king Lawyers!!! They don't give a crap about their clients, they're just a bunch of blood sucking leeches!
His lawyer was looking to suck as much money as he could, ...even after this poor kid was sentenced.
He knew damned well he was screwing this kid, or he wouldn't have been preparing his appeal instead of his case.

Truly sucks when your own military gets screwed over in your courts, ...but we all know who the US military industrial complex really fights for.



Who do they fight for?  Are you saying Jews?  

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2014, 03:11:54 PM »
Hmmm.  I don't think facing potential conflict to protect others is what most soldiers would feel is "unnecessary", but maybe I'm wrong.  

I'm no longer a soldier.

A street fight isn't something a soldier should be involving himself in.  That's what the police are for.  He could have gone looking for his friends without his gun.   He had over an hour.  If he believed his friends were in imminent danger he would have reacted sooner.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2014, 03:14:40 PM »
Yes I have.  I called their cell phones.

That's a good idea, actually.  Wonder if this was addressed during the trial?

(When I was in Rio, we didn't have any  -- which is made kinda funny since we had plenty of cell phones at the time. -- Actually, though, we were afraid to take our test phones out with us at night because we'd be seriously screwed if we lost 'em.)

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2014, 03:15:34 PM »
That's a good idea, actually.  Wonder if this was addressed during the trial?

(When I was in Rio, we didn't have any  -- which is made kinda funny since we had plenty of cell phones at the time. -- Actually, though, we were afraid to take our test phones out with us at night because we'd be seriously screwed if we lost 'em.)

I don't know if it has.  I feel for the guy.  He is getting screwed big time. 

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2014, 03:16:20 PM »
Who do they fight for?  Are you saying Jews?  

WTH? lol

I guess I must have missed something...

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2014, 03:17:24 PM »
WTH? lol

I guess I must have missed something...

She's anti-Semitic.  I was carrying over a conversation from another thread. 

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #83 on: February 23, 2014, 03:19:01 PM »
Who do they fight for?  Are you saying Jews?  

If the system fought for the Jews, Giles wouldn't be doing 25 to life.
Zimmerman would be behind bars, and Dunn would not have gotten a hung jury.
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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2014, 03:21:26 PM »
If the system fought for the Jews, Giles wouldn't be doing 25 to life.
Zimmerman would be behind bars, and Dunn would not have gotten a hung jury.

Do you really believe there is an epidemic of whites killing blacks?  I'm curious.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2014, 03:22:12 PM »
A street fight isn't something a soldier should be involving himself in.  That's what the police are for.  He could have gone looking for his friends without his gun.   He had over an hour.  If he believed his friends were in imminent danger he would have reacted sooner.

In his mind he was involving himself minimally.  He was worried about his friends but wasn't sure where they were or what they were doing.  Only after he'd waited for some time at the car without them appearing did he become concerned enough to leave the car.  When he left the car, he went to the edge of the parking lot beside a bush (probably so he'd have a wider field of view) to watch for his friends.  

My guess is he was hoping he was just gonna have to bitch 'em out for talking to some ho's instead of making sure he was OK.  Be interesting to know if his friends were also in the military or not.  (Might not be so relevant, though, I knew plenty of guys in the army who'd frequently act like idiots -- especially after they'd been drinking.)

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2014, 03:23:51 PM »
She's anti-Semitic.  I was carrying over a conversation from another thread. 

Seriously?  Sure she wasn't just talking about Wiggs?  ;D

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2014, 03:25:25 PM »
She's anti-Semitic.  I was carrying over a conversation from another thread.  

I have no problem with Jews or Semites. I don't even have a problem with Khazarians (Ashkenazim)
I do not support Zionism which is an oppressive, racist, apartheid political movement, whose purpose is the theft of occupied land, and a racial genocide against an innocent people. The sick rabid dog of Palestine has bitten the hand that once fed and protected it.
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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2014, 03:26:45 PM »
In his mind he was involving himself minimally.  He was worried about his friends but wasn't sure where they were or what they were doing.  Only after he'd waited for some time at the car without them appearing did he become concerned enough to leave the car.  When he left the car, he went to the edge of the parking lot beside a bush (probably so he'd have a wider field of view) to watch for his friends.  

My guess is he was hoping he was just gonna have to bitch 'em out for talking to some ho's instead of making sure he was OK.  Be interesting to know if his friends were also in the military or not.  (Might not be so relevant, though, I knew plenty of guys in the army who'd frequently act like idiots -- especially after they'd been drinking.)

I understand how he felt about his friends.  As I said he's being screwed.  Should never gotten jail time at all.

Seriously?  Sure she wasn't just talking about Wiggs?  ;D

They believe the exact same thing.  She claims Jews aren't the real Jews but imposters.  I'm Jewish by the way.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2014, 03:32:58 PM »
I understand how he felt about his friends.  As I said he's being screwed.  Should never gotten jail time at all.

They believe the exact same thing.  She claims Jews aren't the real Jews but imposters.  I'm Jewish by the way.

Fair enough.

Ah, crap.  Well, let me say this one time only: 

Wouldn't StreetSoldier4Jew have been a better moniker?

Sank you, I vill be here all ze week. ;D

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2014, 03:33:55 PM »
Fair enough.

Ah, crap.  Well, let me say this one time only: 

Wouldn't StreetSoldier4Jew have been a better moniker?

Sank you, I vill be here all ze week. ;D

Yes it would.  Let me give you credit.  Reading your posts has broadened my opinion on this subject.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2014, 03:34:33 PM »
Fair enough.

Ah, crap.  Well, let me say this one time only: 

Wouldn't StreetSoldier4Jew have been a better moniker?

Sank you, I vill be here all ze week. ;D

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #92 on: February 24, 2014, 08:25:34 AM »
;D



Read this article.  It seems your issues with antisemiticism has strong roots in your community.


According this article, ADL surveys show that “approximately 12 percent of Americans hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views.” However, over 30% of African Americans and Latinos hold such views. Given that they are almost 30% of the population, this suggests that of the 12% of Americans who hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views, 9% or so are African Americans or Latinos. This means, in turn, of the 70% or so of the population that is not African American or Latino, only 3% hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views. Put another way, less than 5% of whites, Asians, and “others” (including Native Americans) combined hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views, compared to over 30% of African Americans and Latinos–or at least that’s the difference in percentages of those willing to express anti-Semitic attitudes to pollsters. Regardless, it seems odd given these numbers that Jews seem especially concerned about mostly phantom anti-Semitism emanating from white evangelical Christians, while being less concerned about anti-Semitism in core Democratic constituencies. But, as Ilya pointed out a few years back, “many studies show that people tend to devalue or ignore any information that makes their political adversaries look good, while overvaluing anything that looks bad.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/19/entrenched-anti-semitic-views-very-rare-among-whites-and-asian-americans-common-among-blacks-and-latinos/




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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2014, 10:24:32 AM »
MY community? HA! I got news for you. As a Black Canadian, I have MORE in common with White Americans


Typical Khazar, ...always trying to claim everything Jewish for themselves.   ::)   ::)

This thread is about a US Vet who got screwed by a system his family has devoted their lives to, yet you try to turn it into a pity party for the poor misunderstood & maligned AshkeNAZI Zionists. Start your own thread.

I'm only trying to help you. You're the one who believes crazy stuff.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #94 on: February 24, 2014, 11:53:29 AM »
I have no problem with Jews or Semites. I don't even have a problem with Khazarians (Ashkenazim)
I do not support Zionism which is an oppressive, racist, apartheid political movement, whose purpose is the theft of occupied land, and a racial genocide against an innocent people. The sick rabid dog of Palestine has bitten the hand that once fed and protected it.

Do you carry this view for the Germans who were expelled from East Prussia?

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #95 on: February 24, 2014, 11:59:22 AM »
Read this article.  It seems your issues with antisemiticism has strong roots in your community.


According this article, ADL surveys show that “approximately 12 percent of Americans hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views.” However, over 30% of African Americans and Latinos hold such views. Given that they are almost 30% of the population, this suggests that of the 12% of Americans who hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views, 9% or so are African Americans or Latinos. This means, in turn, of the 70% or so of the population that is not African American or Latino, only 3% hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views. Put another way, less than 5% of whites, Asians, and “others” (including Native Americans) combined hold deeply entrenched anti-Semitic views, compared to over 30% of African Americans and Latinos–or at least that’s the difference in percentages of those willing to express anti-Semitic attitudes to pollsters. Regardless, it seems odd given these numbers that Jews seem especially concerned about mostly phantom anti-Semitism emanating from white evangelical Christians, while being less concerned about anti-Semitism in core Democratic constituencies. But, as Ilya pointed out a few years back, “many studies show that people tend to devalue or ignore any information that makes their political adversaries look good, while overvaluing anything that looks bad.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/19/entrenched-anti-semitic-views-very-rare-among-whites-and-asian-americans-common-among-blacks-and-latinos/





She got it from here.  It's a cultural thing.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #96 on: February 24, 2014, 12:01:05 PM »
If the only thing that happened was he was knocked to the ground, then firing the gun in a crowded room sounds like excessive force to me. 

The sentence is ridiculously long though. 

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #97 on: February 24, 2014, 01:32:28 PM »
If the only thing that happened was he was knocked to the ground, then firing the gun in a crowded room sounds like excessive force to me. 

The sentence is ridiculously long though. 

agreed on both counts.   trigger happy idiot.   all other factors aside, he took one hit/shove and opened fire.

Give him 5-8, he'll be out fast on good behavior.  He doesn't need to be carrying a gun if he will fire it that wildly without worry of where those bullets land.

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Re: US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years
« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2014, 08:08:39 PM »
Do you carry this view for the Germans who were expelled from East Prussia?

Sorry Irongrip, I'm not familiar with the facts surrounding that situation.
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