Vince B - Blue Stars - Discuss

[Vince B]

Hey I actually believe you. Would you give me Roberts contact information specifically his phone number?

I have nothing to hide. Nailon is in the White Pages in Sydney. Last time I was at his place was a few months ago. Gymea.

I have known Robert since 1969. We are both interested in photography and bodybuilding and he owned a gym for a few years.

In the past everyone who read the muscle mags knew Robert because he took lots of photos of champions from downunder

plus many champs who visited Australia including Arnold and Frank. Robert has been on quite a few covers as well. He has

never won the Mr Australia title but did win a controversial Mr NSW back in 1975. I challenged Robert to compete in the

Mr Australia title that year. Pat Goninan was also going to compete but gave up the quest. Two weeks before was the Mr NSW

contest and Robert won over a superior Hans Meyer from Orange. So a lot of us booed the decision. Later Robert, Paul Graham

and Arnold found out I had booed Robert. I was told that they said they would get me in Melbourne. As it turned out I warned

Frank Burwash, the promoter, that Paul and Arnold were going to put me low in the judging and Frank did bugger all about it.

So I came last in my class because Paul and Arnold put me way down low. Paul gave me 25 points out of 100. He was getting

even for the times he lost contests because of my scores. I have a letter from Burwash stating what happened.

In 1980 Robert and I had a contest to see who could take the best photos at the Mr Olympia contest. He was back stage so

got nothing. I was in the middle of the audience at waist level to the competitors and had a solid tripod and Zeiss lenses.

Robert gave me a bum steer re what photos to send to the various magazines. So I sent all of them to each of the mags.

Robert Kennedy was livid and never communicated with me again. I was so disenchanted I sold the negs and slides to

Robert for $1000 with the proviso that I could have copies of any photos if I liked. Well, this year I asked Robert for copies

and he denied ever having that agreement. When I was at his place a few months ago with my scanner and laptop he said

he didn't have the negatives and slides there. Scott had them. In a phone conversation with Robert he said he sold the photos

to Scott so that even if I did have a signed agreement it was no longer valid. I mean, what kind of shit is that. Robert told

me to call Scott. He wouldn't answer the phone but left a text to write him. When I did he criticized me then said he owned

the photos and would have to wait until their book came out. Nice one, Robert and Scott. That is where things are at the

moment. To make matters worse, Roz can't find the agreement. Robert and Scott are clearly trying to pull a fast one.

I want copies of those photos for my personal use. I do have plenty of 8X10 I printed for myself so that will have to suffice.

Scott is not a bodybuilder and I doubt he ever trained much in a gym.

[TTfit]

I have nothing to hide. Nailon is in the White Pages in Sydney. Last time I was at his place was a few months ago. Gymea.

I have known Robert since 1969. We are both interested in photography and bodybuilding and he owned a gym for a few years.

In the past everyone who read the muscle mags knew Robert because he took lots of photos of champions from downunder

plus many champs who visited Australia including Arnold and Frank. Robert has been on quite a few covers as well. He has

never won the Mr Australia title but did win a controversial Mr NSW back in 1975. I challenged Robert to compete in the

Mr Australia title that year. Pat Goninan was also going to compete but gave up the quest. Two weeks before was the Mr NSW

contest and Robert won over a superior Hans Meyer from Orange. So a lot of us booed the decision. Later Robert, Paul Graham

and Arnold found out I had booed Robert. I was told that they said they would get me in Melbourne. As it turned out I warned

Frank Burwash, the promoter, that Paul and Arnold were going to put me low in the judging and Frank did bugger all about it.

So I came last in my class because Paul and Arnold put me way down low. Paul gave me 25 points out of 100. He was getting

even for the times he lost contests because of my scores. I have a letter from Burwash stating what happened.

In 1980 Robert and I had a contest to see who could take the best photos at the Mr Olympia contest. He was back stage so

got nothing. I was in the middle of the audience at waist level to the competitors and had a solid tripod and Zeiss lenses.

Robert gave me a bum steer re what photos to send to the various magazines. So I sent all of them to each of the mags.

Robert Kennedy was livid and never communicated with me again. I was so disenchanted I sold the negs and slides to

Robert for $1000 with the proviso that I could have copies of any photos if I liked. Well, this year I asked Robert for copies

and he denied ever having that agreement. When I was at his place a few months ago with my scanner and laptop he said

he didn't have the negatives and slides there. Scott had them. In a phone conversation with Robert he said he sold the photos

to Scott so that even if I did have a signed agreement it was no longer valid. I mean, what kind of shit is that. Robert told

me to call Scott. He wouldn't answer the phone but left a text to write him. When I did he criticized me then said he owned

the photos and would have to wait until their book came out. Nice one, Robert and Scott. That is where things are at the

moment. To make matters worse, Roz can't find the agreement. Robert and Scott are clearly trying to pull a fast one.

I want copies of those photos for my personal use. I do have plenty of 8X10 I printed for myself so that will have to suffice.

Scott is not a bodybuilder and I doubt he ever trained much in a gym.

I appreciate the spacing but I can't read that.

Cmon just give me the phone number so I can return. Let him know he'll be receiving a call from a guy from Getbig called TFit. So he's not taken aback.

[SF1900]

I have nothing to hide. Nailon is in the White Pages in Sydney. Last time I was at his place was a few months ago. Gymea.

I have known Robert since 1969. We are both interested in photography and bodybuilding and he owned a gym for a few years.

In the past everyone who read the muscle mags knew Robert because he took lots of photos of champions from downunder

plus many champs who visited Australia including Arnold and Frank. Robert has been on quite a few covers as well. He has

never won the Mr Australia title but did win a controversial Mr NSW back in 1975. I challenged Robert to compete in the

Mr Australia title that year. Pat Goninan was also going to compete but gave up the quest. Two weeks before was the Mr NSW

contest and Robert won over a superior Hans Meyer from Orange. So a lot of us booed the decision. Later Robert, Paul Graham

and Arnold found out I had booed Robert. I was told that they said they would get me in Melbourne. As it turned out I warned

Frank Burwash, the promoter, that Paul and Arnold were going to put me low in the judging and Frank did bugger all about it.

So I came last in my class because Paul and Arnold put me way down low. Paul gave me 25 points out of 100. He was getting

even for the times he lost contests because of my scores. I have a letter from Burwash stating what happened.

In 1980 Robert and I had a contest to see who could take the best photos at the Mr Olympia contest. He was back stage so

got nothing. I was in the middle of the audience at waist level to the competitors and had a solid tripod and Zeiss lenses.

Robert gave me a bum steer re what photos to send to the various magazines. So I sent all of them to each of the mags.

Robert Kennedy was livid and never communicated with me again. I was so disenchanted I sold the negs and slides to

Robert for $1000 with the proviso that I could have copies of any photos if I liked. Well, this year I asked Robert for copies

and he denied ever having that agreement. When I was at his place a few months ago with my scanner and laptop he said

he didn't have the negatives and slides there. Scott had them. In a phone conversation with Robert he said he sold the photos

to Scott so that even if I did have a signed agreement it was no longer valid. I mean, what kind of shit is that. Robert told

me to call Scott. He wouldn't answer the phone but left a text to write him. When I did he criticized me then said he owned

the photos and would have to wait until their book came out. Nice one, Robert and Scott. That is where things are at the

moment. To make matters worse, Roz can't find the agreement. Robert and Scott are clearly trying to pull a fast one.

I want copies of those photos for my personal use. I do have plenty of 8X10 I printed for myself so that will have to suffice.

Scott is not a bodybuilder and I doubt he ever trained much in a gym.

TL;DR

[The Ugly]

I have nothing to hide. Nailon is in the White Pages in Sydney. Last time I was at his place was a few months ago. Gymea.

I have known Robert since 1969. We are both interested in photography and bodybuilding and he owned a gym for a few years.

In the past everyone who read the muscle mags knew Robert because he took lots of photos of champions from downunder

plus many champs who visited Australia including Arnold and Frank. Robert has been on quite a few covers as well. He has

never won the Mr Australia title but did win a controversial Mr NSW back in 1975. I challenged Robert to compete in the

Mr Australia title that year. Pat Goninan was also going to compete but gave up the quest. Two weeks before was the Mr NSW

contest and Robert won over a superior Hans Meyer from Orange. So a lot of us booed the decision. Later Robert, Paul Graham

and Arnold found out I had booed Robert. I was told that they said they would get me in Melbourne. As it turned out I warned

Frank Burwash, the promoter, that Paul and Arnold were going to put me low in the judging and Frank did bugger all about it.

So I came last in my class because Paul and Arnold put me way down low. Paul gave me 25 points out of 100. He was getting

even for the times he lost contests because of my scores. I have a letter from Burwash stating what happened.

In 1980 Robert and I had a contest to see who could take the best photos at the Mr Olympia contest. He was back stage so

got nothing. I was in the middle of the audience at waist level to the competitors and had a solid tripod and Zeiss lenses.

Robert gave me a bum steer re what photos to send to the various magazines. So I sent all of them to each of the mags.

Robert Kennedy was livid and never communicated with me again. I was so disenchanted I sold the negs and slides to

Robert for $1000 with the proviso that I could have copies of any photos if I liked. Well, this year I asked Robert for copies

and he denied ever having that agreement. When I was at his place a few months ago with my scanner and laptop he said

he didn't have the negatives and slides there. Scott had them. In a phone conversation with Robert he said he sold the photos

to Scott so that even if I did have a signed agreement it was no longer valid. I mean, what kind of shit is that. Robert told

me to call Scott. He wouldn't answer the phone but left a text to write him. When I did he criticized me then said he owned

the photos and would have to wait until their book came out. Nice one, Robert and Scott. That is where things are at the

moment. To make matters worse, Roz can't find the agreement. Robert and Scott are clearly trying to pull a fast one.

I want copies of those photos for my personal use. I do have plenty of 8X10 I printed for myself so that will have to suffice.

Scott is not a bodybuilder and I doubt he ever trained much in a gym.

You know, it's really quite common for last place finishers to blame judges. Perhaps you just "spilled over" or some shit, and the contest was scored fairly. Probably deserved last is all.

All we really got here are your gripes and suspicions. Not very convincing.

[Vince B]

I looked quite good in 75. Best shape I have been in for a contest. There were slides taken of me on stage. I had them at my gym for the guys to look at and someone stole them! They were never returned so I don't have any photos of me competing. Robert and I were in different height classes so were never compared.

[The Ugly]

I looked quite good in 75. Best shape I have been in for a contest. There were slides taken of me on stage. I had them at my gym for the guys to look at and someone stole them! They were never returned so I don't have any photos of me competing. Robert and I were in different height classes so were never compared.

Look great for 1975. Unfortunate that you were an intolerable asshole back then as well, but it seems all bodybuilders were.

[Hurricane Beef !]

I looked quite good in 75. Best shape I have been in for a contest. There were slides taken of me on stage. I had them at my gym for the guys to look at and someone stole them! They were never returned so I don't have any photos of me competing. Robert and I were in different height classes so were never compared.

Photos were stolen . . . Security guard took film in York, on and on and on.

THE BEEF

[forillagorilla]

What kind of a man would actually give a fuck about this? This beef guy actually sought out Roberts son and "tattled" on Vince - then is too much of a social retard to be ashamed and actually SHOWS people that he did that??? WTF is wrong with this bitch? Who gives a fuck whethrr Vince is telling the truth or not? How fucking pathetic must life be that you feel you need to "expose" LOL someone... Shit that fucking sounds funny as hell even typing it.. The personal stuff is seriously twisted. If I had a son that fucked up I might have to fucking kill him just to save the family name... For fucks sake read the BS and believe it if you want - or don't but damn man just leave it..
I know this place is the least respected among boards as far as real BB / training goes - but honestly I thought there might be some guys here that actually train and maybe just have a little fucked up side.. I just can't see lil fellas like beet having the time to train with all the "exposing" he does on here.. I can hear him shaking his lil fist screaming "gggrrrrr - I'll get youuuuu....!!!!!"   Now he comes back with some response that any normal guy will find retarded.. I try not to look at threads after I say what I say because - I honestly don't give two shits.. Stay a fucked up little baby - or change.. This place is like my dirty secret. If colleagues read this shit lord knows what they would think lol. Who knows maybe some of those eccentric fucks are here.. I never thought so before because most are not exactly giving a damn about training. Lol. That's a lot of cats on here..

[Vince B]

Photos were stolen . . . Security guard took film in York, on and on and on.

THE BEEF

We had a slide viewer for those interested. Obviously, someone was jealous so took them. I had a knucklehead from school working for a week so that made it easy for someone to take them. We had to give him the sack. Not for this but he sure was dense. Never hire people you personally know. There were photos of Arnold as well because he was the guest poser. He was the only one with music that night.

[Hurricane Beef !]

What kind of a man would actually give a fuck about this? This beef guy actually sought out Roberts son and "tattled" on Vince - then is too much of a social retard to be ashamed and actually SHOWS people that he did that??? WTF is wrong with this bitch? Who gives a fuck whethrr Vince is telling the truth or not? How fucking pathetic must life be that you feel you need to "expose" LOL someone... Shit that fucking sounds funny as hell even typing it.. The personal stuff is seriously twisted. If I had a son that fucked up I might have to fucking kill him just to save the family name... For fucks sake read the BS and believe it if you want - or don't but damn man just leave it..
I know this place is the least respected among boards as far as real BB / training goes - but honestly I thought there might be some guys here that actually train and maybe just have a little fucked up side.. I just can't see lil fellas like beet having the time to train with all the "exposing" he does on here.. I can hear him shaking his lil fist screaming "gggrrrrr - I'll get youuuuu....!!!!!"   Now he comes back with some response that any normal guy will find retarded.. I try not to look at threads after I say what I say because - I honestly don't give two shits.. Stay a fucked up little baby - or change.. This place is like my dirty secret. If colleagues read this shit lord knows what they would think lol. Who knows maybe some of those eccentric fucks are here.. I never thought so before because most are not exactly giving a damn about training. Lol. That's a lot of cats on here..

ROFL - this idiot commenting on what? Read the entire thread and felt compelled to put his two cents worth in. Remarkable guy . . . Can hear people shaking their heads. World class moron.

THE BEEF

[Hurricane Beef !]

We had a slide viewer for those interested. Obviously, someone was jealous so took them. I had a knucklehead from school working for a week so that made it easy for someone to take them. We had to give him the sack. Not for this but he sure was dense. Never hire people you personally know. There were photos of Arnold as well because he was the guest poser. He was the only one with music that night.

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Oh my fuck, THE BEEFS sides hurt. More excuses than you can shake a stick at.

THE BEEF

[Walter Sobchak]

What kind of a man would actually give a fuck about this? This beef guy actually sought out Roberts son and "tattled" on Vince - then is too much of a social retard to be ashamed and actually SHOWS people that he did that??? WTF is wrong with this bitch? Who gives a fuck whethrr Vince is telling the truth or not? How fucking pathetic must life be that you feel you need to "expose" LOL someone... Shit that fucking sounds funny as hell even typing it.. The personal stuff is seriously twisted. If I had a son that fucked up I might have to fucking kill him just to save the family name... For fucks sake read the BS and believe it if you want - or don't but damn man just leave it..
I know this place is the least respected among boards as far as real BB / training goes - but honestly I thought there might be some guys here that actually train and maybe just have a little fucked up side.. I just can't see lil fellas like beet having the time to train with all the "exposing" he does on here.. I can hear him shaking his lil fist screaming "gggrrrrr - I'll get youuuuu....!!!!!"   Now he comes back with some response that any normal guy will find retarded.. I try not to look at threads after I say what I say because - I honestly don't give two shits.. Stay a fucked up little baby - or change.. This place is like my dirty secret. If colleagues read this shit lord knows what they would think lol. Who knows maybe some of those eccentric fucks are here.. I never thought so before because most are not exactly giving a damn about training. Lol. That's a lot of cats on here..

Just confirms it is the fat idiot from Regina behind a hacked account.

[Hurricane Beef !]

Did you say vagina?

THE BEEF

[forillagorilla]

Just confirms it is the fat idiot from Regina behind a hacked account.

I don't understand - are you saying that the dude has actually taken the time to "hack" an internet message board account? LOL..   
OK enough of this for tonight.

[Walter Sobchak]

Did you say vagina?

THE BEEF

No Sir.....this is a Zero Tolerance board and I would never do such a thing.

[The Ugly]

What kind of a man would actually give a fuck about this? This beef guy actually sought out Roberts son and "tattled" on Vince - then is too much of a social retard to be ashamed and actually SHOWS people that he did that??? WTF is wrong with this bitch? Who gives a fuck whethrr Vince is telling the truth or not? How fucking pathetic must life be that you feel you need to "expose" LOL someone... Shit that fucking sounds funny as hell even typing it.. The personal stuff is seriously twisted. If I had a son that fucked up I might have to fucking kill him just to save the family name... For fucks sake read the BS and believe it if you want - or don't but damn man just leave it..
I know this place is the least respected among boards as far as real BB / training goes - but honestly I thought there might be some guys here that actually train and maybe just have a little fucked up side.. I just can't see lil fellas like beet having the time to train with all the "exposing" he does on here.. I can hear him shaking his lil fist screaming "gggrrrrr - I'll get youuuuu....!!!!!"   Now he comes back with some response that any normal guy will find retarded.. I try not to look at threads after I say what I say because - I honestly don't give two shits.. Stay a fucked up little baby - or change.. This place is like my dirty secret. If colleagues read this shit lord knows what they would think lol. Who knows maybe some of those eccentric fucks are here.. I never thought so before because most are not exactly giving a damn about training. Lol. That's a lot of cats on here..

[Ropo]

How do you know? Lot's of guys here say they are heavily involved but they haven't anything to brag it up or prove they are, so they just post their shitty opinions like they know it all. I think they have inflated themself worth well beyond reality.

Fixed..

[Tennisballz]

 Never heard of vince basile before this board and never heard of Robert nailon until just now.  This whole thread blows.  Lacks the entertainment value I'm on getbig for.  Basile isn't really even arguing with anyone here.   

[The Grim Lifter]

It's just one word against another.

But Basile is a getbigger and more importantly Mr. Canada 1971. I'd believe him anyway 

[Van_Bilderass]

I know this place is the least respected among boards as far as real BB / training goes - but honestly I thought there might be some guys here that actually train and maybe just have a little fucked up side..

The only reason you don't see "silliness" on all the other boards is the moderation and any feud is quickly squashed. I guarantee you if a forum like promuscle would get rid of moderation for a day there would be all out war, lots of tears shed, threats to life etc. Any forum I've been on has been mostly idiots. There are "serious" people here too, in fact quite a few pros have posted/post still. But on the other hand, pros can be some of the most retarded people out there, and I mean real mental retardation.

The reason there aren't more prominent amateurs and pros posting here (at least under their own names) is that their bullshit is quickly called out. They can't sell their absolute dogshit supplements, their jacking off on webcam for homos is exposed (Namat) etc, etc.

[SF1900]

Never heard of vince basile before this board and never heard of Robert nailon until just now.  This whole thread blows.  Lacks the entertainment value I'm on getbig for.  Basile isn't really even arguing with anyone here.   

That's the funny thing. Most people have never heard of Vince B. Go on any bodybuilding board (bodybuilding.com). I bet most have never heard of him. Vince B. must be very bitter about this.

[FitnessFrenzy]

What are you talking about? I merely post my opinions here. I have done more in the industry than anyone else who posts here. Champion, gym owner, equipment inventor and manufacturer, theorist, writer, photographer, judge, bodybuilding organisation, weightlifter, power lifter, pinch grip champion, Internet warrior. There you are.

I hope to be half the man you are when I get to be 70+ years old.

[The Grim Lifter]

That's the funny thing. Most people have never heard of Vince B. Go on any bodybuilding board (bodybuilding.com). I bet most have never heard of him. Vince B. must be very bitter about this.

I'd never seen or heard of Ken Sprage until i read Smoke and Mirrors 2 but he was the major player in bodybuilding in the late 70's. Joe Weider rewrote history against Ken just like he did with Vince.

[hardgainerj]

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Oh my fuck, THE BEEFS sides hurt. More excuses than you can shake a stick at.

THE BEEF

i lol too

[Teutonic Knight]

I hope to be half the man you are when I get to be 70+ years old.

Without him Australia still will be mysterious southern continent  (Australia la terra Incognita)  

(apologies to the Dutch, captain James Cook & Comte la Perouse)