Where did you hear this from, "Dr" Layne Norton? You know there's no real evidence of this ever happening beyond one case study on a 45 year old female marathon runner and Norton's anecdotes, right?
Also, you know that Lyle McDonald tore him a new one about this claim of "metabolic damage" on Facebook. You know all that--right?
he doesnt know what hes talking about bro. i dont even pay him no mind.
what metabolic damage? i prefer to diet very low cal- ive posted on this before my reasons why. to be truthful theres no need imo to eat anything more than your body needs to grow as your body will grow in a calorie deficit as adonis has stated in this thread and hes a natty.
seva touches on this too with his posts about how we've all been fed bullshit for years about big cals/ big cycles/ big weights etc. then along come guys like adonis, me, gal, ukjeff, OTH and others and say hey- you dont need all that shit to have a great physique. and we all back it up. theres no smoke and mirrors- ya- this is what we do- this is how we look. its that simple. look at BigRo- the guys a future card holder- he just started using gh. eats like a bird considering his size. and ESF is preaching retarded cal intakes and cycles? gimme a fucking break. i cant abide that. its wrong and its stupid careless advise. not wrong cause he doing it and it works for him, wrong cause hes not doing it and its a stupid and archaic belief system
i take this shit seriously. i know i come here and bust balls and come off a little harsh at VP points out, but thats my thing. i honestly and truly do care to help people where i can- thats what this is about for me. i have a responsibilty to those who come to me for advise to be open and honest and 100% transparent not just because my reputation is attached to my words, as is everyones, but because i am responsible for the health of that person i am giving advice to.
i like this board and this community. i have been here a decade or better. if i feel that someone is being irresponsible im going to say something. cause its my job and duty to my friends i have on here, and all the kids reading this shit at home who *might* think what ESF preaches is safe or normal.
this is the best board online, with the most hardcore following, and we preach truths here. not fantasy and bullshit.
and wolfox- eat a dick.