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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #175 on: February 16, 2015, 03:36:45 PM »
ND,

Do you know the year of this pic? This is as big as I've seen Reeves in a bodybuilding pose.


I think it was '47. 

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #176 on: February 16, 2015, 05:00:20 PM »
This whole Zeigler point is pure sheepshit and rests on the premise that test doesn't work and until Dbol came along there wasn't any point.  That is a MORONIC position.  Test cypionate, propionate, methyl test and a bunch of other shit on that list doesn't work for bodybuilding?  Do you know how stupid that sounds? 

Prove any of those did work at the time and prove strength athletes were using them. Oh and good luck  ;)

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #177 on: February 16, 2015, 05:02:07 PM »
LOL @ getbiggers.  if he ever Did take anything artificial, and therefore *lied* about it, he didn't need to AND there still never has been nor likely ever will be another one like him. &guy druggies take all this chemical shit and still look like puke.  Give it up little boys.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #178 on: February 16, 2015, 05:05:50 PM »
This is starting to sound like the rationalizations surrounding Michael Jackson.  Oh he's special, he doesn't care about sex the way normal people do, blah blah blah, muscle memory exceptional genetics.

Rationalizations? like there is NO history of any athletes taking PEDs until years after he retired  ;)

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #179 on: February 16, 2015, 06:14:48 PM »
NarcissisticDeity would make one hell of a defense lawyer, until everyone found out he was handicapped.

You get him onto a subject he is passionate about...............and forget about it.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #180 on: February 16, 2015, 06:50:45 PM »
Prove any of those did work at the time and prove strength athletes were using them. Oh and good luck  ;)

Prove they did work at the time?  At the time?  Test cypionate and propionate are mainstream bbing drugs today and have been for years.  Are you an absolute ignoramus?  Has test propionate or cyp somehow chemically transformed since the 40s?  Read any book on the subject.  Your credibility is entirely gone.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #181 on: February 16, 2015, 06:58:37 PM »
The Popularization of Testosterone Among West Coast Bodybuilders
In 1945, writer Paul de Kruif celebrated the anabolic properties of testosterone, testosterone propionate and methyltestosterone in the book entitled “The Male Hormone”. This widely-read book was rumored to have helped popularize the potential of testosterone (and future anabolic steroids) to increase muscle mass among West Coast bodybuilders in the late 1940s and early 1950s. This was only the beginning of bodybuilding’s fascination with anabolic steroids.
The bodybuilding community as a whole would soon start widely experimenting with anabolic steroids in the 1950s and become pioneers in steroid use. They would remain on the cutting edge of performance-enhancement drugs well into the next century.
IFBB Mr. Olympia Larry Scott admitted that he, and practically all of the top competitive bodybuilders, were also using anabolic steroids by 1960.

There by the late 40s.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #182 on: February 16, 2015, 07:22:03 PM »
:o he pinch gripped deadlifted a substantial weight was capable of one arm chins.

Though he didn't invent it, what was called the "Reeves Deadlift" is great for outer pec development. Seems to have worked for him.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #183 on: February 17, 2015, 05:52:08 AM »
The Popularization of Testosterone Among West Coast Bodybuilders
In 1945, writer Paul de Kruif celebrated the anabolic properties of testosterone, testosterone propionate and methyltestosterone in the book entitled “The Male Hormone”. This widely-read book was rumored to have helped popularize the potential of testosterone (and future anabolic steroids) to increase muscle mass among West Coast bodybuilders in the late 1940s and early 1950s. This was only the beginning of bodybuilding’s fascination with anabolic steroids.
The bodybuilding community as a whole would soon start widely experimenting with anabolic steroids in the 1950s and become pioneers in steroid use. They would remain on the cutting edge of performance-enhancement drugs well into the next century.
IFBB Mr. Olympia Larry Scott admitted that he, and practically all of the top competitive bodybuilders, were also using anabolic steroids by 1960.

There by the late 40s.

LMFAO you just made this shit up , post a source for this  ;) you're reduced to making shit up now

edit I found the  ' source ' and you guessed it no proof just hearsay  ;D and vague references

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #184 on: February 17, 2015, 06:47:47 AM »
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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #185 on: February 17, 2015, 06:56:49 AM »
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Reeves didn't take steroids because they weren't invented yet  ;)


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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #186 on: February 17, 2015, 06:58:09 AM »
LMFAO you just made this shit up , post a source for this  ;) you're reduced to making shit up now

edit I found the  ' source ' and you guessed it no proof just hearsay  ;D and vague references

So funny, first I made it up, then it was just hearsay once you googled.  It's as legit as that tripe you posted about Zeigler.  Here is what tips the balance for me: 1- the entire history of the sport of bbing has been one big lie about not taking steroids so hucksters could sell fake supplements, Reeves statement fits this same mold, 2-his actual physique looks like he juiced at some point, 3- that odd statement about no one being willing to say it to his face when he was alive or he'd have punched them in the nose or something.  Anytime I see something like that it is usually an attempt to distract from the lie being told.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #187 on: February 17, 2015, 07:01:08 AM »
Reeves didn't take steroids because they weren't invented yet  ;)



Is testosterone a steroid?

And all those Hercules and other movies were made in the late 50s by the time everyone was juicing even by your own timeline.  Does it really matter if he didn't take them to compete if he did take them for the movies?

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #188 on: February 17, 2015, 07:06:21 AM »
Is testosterone a steroid?

And all those Hercules and other movies were made in the late 50s by the time everyone was juicing even by your own timeline.  Does it really matter if he didn't take them to compete if he did take them for the movies?


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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #189 on: February 17, 2015, 07:18:02 AM »
So funny, first I made it up, then it was just hearsay once you googled.  It's as legit as that tripe you posted about Zeigler.  Here is what tips the balance for me: 1- the entire history of the sport of bbing has been one big lie about not taking steroids so hucksters could sell fake supplements, Reeves statement fits this same mold, 2-his actual physique looks like he juiced at some point, 3- that odd statement about no one being willing to say it to his face when he was alive or he'd have punched them in the nose or something.  Anytime I see something like that it is usually an attempt to distract from the lie being told.

Of course it's hearsay and it's vague with nothing to verify anything. it's an opinion and not even a well informed one at that. And you're dead wrong about it being as legit as Ziegler , because his story is verifiable by a host of sources from Bill Star , Bill March , Grimeck , Hoffman , the whole York gym , etc. It's well documented that this is the genesis of PEDs in the United States there is nothing before. Anything you type is fluff it has zero substance and you know it.

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the entire history of the sport of bbing has been one big lie about not taking steroids so hucksters could sell fake supplements

Not true , there was a time when there was no steroids , I agree about the hucksters selling junk though even when there were no drugs in the sport

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2-his actual physique looks like he juiced at some point

oh boy  ::) see uninformed opinion

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that odd statement about no one being willing to say it to his face when he was alive or he'd have punched them in the nose or something.  Anytime I see something like that it is usually an attempt to distract from the lie being told.

I don't even know if that's true , I've never saw in in all the Reeves interviews I've saw. What would be his motivation to lie? They wouldn't have been banned or illegal no need to lie , guys today have to lie for legal reasons.

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Is testosterone a steroid?

And all those Hercules and other movies were made in the late 50s by the time everyone was juicing even by your own timeline.  Does it really matter if he didn't take them to compete if he did take them for the movies?

Testosterone was an experimental drug at the time and very few people had access to it outside of research and scientists. Stop acting like it was readily available , regardless of what that ad in the back of the magazine said.

All those Hercules movies he was SMALLER than when he competed!! get it he was 215lbs when he competed and as low as 190lbs for movies , that defies logic. You're just trolling now and you're not even any good at that  :-\

If you have anything of substance I'll be more than willing to change my mind but you set the bar of acceptable ' evidence ' so low you've already made up your mind , I'm not trying to change your mind I'm showing you Reeves on steroids doesn't even make sense on a hypothetical level never mind a realistic one.

Come back when you have proof I'll be waiting  ;)

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #190 on: February 17, 2015, 07:21:06 AM »


Films we all know make you appear larger , and he was a lot lighter for them than he was when he competed.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #191 on: February 17, 2015, 08:41:23 AM »
honestly I think he was one of the first guys who experimented with it

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #192 on: February 17, 2015, 08:48:00 AM »
 ;D


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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #193 on: February 17, 2015, 09:17:00 AM »
honestly I think he was one of the first guys who experimented with it

Based on what? No one has been able to post one tangible bit of evidence, that Steve Reeves ever used drugs to build his muscles.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #194 on: February 17, 2015, 09:37:42 AM »
Based on what? No one has been able to post one tangible bit of evidence, that Steve Reeves ever used drugs to build his muscles.
based on not alot. Pure speculation

But steroids where in experimental stages in the 40's and Steve Reves was high profile at the time so he would probably be one of the first to get his hands on it.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #195 on: February 17, 2015, 09:55:14 AM »

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #196 on: February 17, 2015, 09:56:30 AM »
based on not alot. Pure speculation

But steroids where in experimental stages in the 40's and Steve Reves was high profile at the time so he would probably be one of the first to get his hands on it.
MAYBE he purchased them at gnc before they were banned in the sealed locked plastic case behind counter...

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #197 on: February 17, 2015, 10:06:32 AM »
based on not a lot. Pure speculation.

Right. No evidence.

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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #198 on: February 17, 2015, 10:06:40 AM »
This inability to accept Reeves dabbling with early Test and of course dbol when his films were being shot (I believe Hercules was released in 1959) is exactly the blind fan boy behaviour which allowed Jimmy Saville to get away with his activities for decades.




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Re: How strong was Steve Reeves
« Reply #199 on: February 17, 2015, 10:12:38 AM »
This inability to accept Reeves dabbling with early Test and of course dbol when his films were being shot (I believe Hercules was released in 1959) is exactly the blind fan boy behaviour which allowed Jimmy Saville to get away with his activities for decades.

More of your beliefs. Steve Reeves was bigger in the 1940s, as a bodybuilder contestant, than he was during his film career. Fact!