Why Bodybuilders are More Jacked Than Powerlifters

[Coach is Back!]

[jamesjenkinsfitness]

People gravitate towards what they are good at. If a guy with elite bodybuilding genetics does powerlifting he will be jacked as hell... like a Coleman or Johnnie Jackson or Pudzian. If these guys did bodybuilding drugs with a pure powerlifting program with no thought of gaining symmetrical size they would still look great from a bodybuilding perspective.

Showing powerlifters with shit physiques as a proof of their training not causing muscle gain does not tell the whole story. There is no guarantee these guys would be any more muscular on a typical bodybuilding program.

Sure, there are many things powerlifters do which are not conducive to bodybuilding but don't forget the most important factor which is genetics. People like to compete at whatever they are naturally good at.

   


Exactly.....
Also bodybuilders and powerlifters train different fiber types.
And by the way, all these threads using powerlifters who haven't competed in years. .. The current powerlifters rarely is some obese guy. Those that are are hold backs from the last era

[jude2]

What's a triple?

Are you kidding?

[_aj_]

What's a triple?

Cardio.

[Coach is Back!]

What's a triple?

Bypass

[The Wizard of Truth]

Its changing now, in Europe anyway the top powerlifters are in decent condition

[orion]

heavy compound lifting of peace ,

Most bodybuilders have no real tolerance for pain , and thats why hardly any of them look like this.

You've obviously never done any giant sets.  Ya we have some competitive power lifters in our gym, I wish I had the luxury of taking ten minutes between sets to do a triple or double.  Seriously dude any bodybuilder worth his salt could easily transition into power lifting but try going the other way, not so much.

[deceiver]

You've obviously never done any giant sets.  Ya we have some competitive power lifters in our gym, I wish I had the luxury of taking ten minutes between sets to do a triple or double.  Seriously dude any bodybuilder worth his salt could easily transition into power lifting but try going the other way, not so much.

Complete BS. It's like saying maraton runner could run 100m but not the other way round. Powerlifting is tons of volume, humongous amount of low rep sets of deads, squats and bench many, many times per week. It's up to 30 WORKING sets of squats per week. I could post Belyaev's routine - 6 times per week, sometimes twice a day training with insane volume. His form is impeccable, every rep looks exactly the same and every muscle that is important is fucking huge on this guy.

Powerlifers ARE jacked. They just don't have a lot of muscle that is important to bodybuilders - small biceps, most of the time small chest (bench press over 80% of MAX is all triceps anyway, according to the research), huge quads (unless someone squats like Norton but most of the people don't), insane erectors, hams etc. Also it's different kind of muscle and looks way more impressive, but you have to witness it first hand, pictures don't tell the whole story.

To me most bodybuilders, even the "aesthetic" ones look funny - small waists with weak abs, small erectors, small traps, weird bloated muscles (sarcoplasmic hypertrophy)... They look weak and unathletic.

[anabolichalo]

To me most bodybuilders, even the "aesthetic" ones look funny - small waists with weak abs, small erectors, small traps, weird bloated muscles (sarcoplasmic hypertrophy)... They look weak and unathletic.

[deceiver]

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

[anabolichalo]

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

well "most" powerlifters look like fucking SHIT

[deceiver]

well "most" powerlifters look like fucking SHIT

How many international level IPF powerlifters do you know?

[anabolichalo]

How many international level IPF powerlifters do you know?

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

[deceiver]

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

Honestly the reason why it is believed that "powerlifters" look like shit is because nowadays there is a plague of lowbar, hoodie wearing fatasses who think they can be fat because they "train for strength". I've seen this type of guys, brutal 140kg x 2 squats and facebook full of shit about powerlifting. They are disgrace to the sport.

To me they are wannabies, not real powerlifters. It's like calling leg-skipping gymrats "bodybuilders". I'm talking about real powerlifters and true bodybuilders.

[Ron Jeremy]

Diet might have something to do with appearance, esp. In the heavier weight classes (242+). Talking PL weight classes.

[Var City]

Diet might have something to do with appearance, esp. In the heavier weight classes (242+). Talking PL weight classes.

i agree fully

powerlifteres eat like SLOBS

then attribute it to "GENETICS" or a "POOR THYROID"

the retards

not all of them. I actually know ONE very, very shredded PL who competes at some weight class below 200 he is extremely extremely genetically blessed though in his case. weird tendon strength for how skinny he is

I on the other hand am SMARTER with my gear than Power lifters and guess what i am going to eat today like most days?

breaftast: 3 whole eggs, sausage, 2 slices whole toast, 2 cups black coffee, half gallon of water with bcaa (this is not me saying YOU should take bcaa it is me just stating that I do )

lunch: stir friend chicken whole breasts. broccoli or comparable green at worst a salad with oil and vinnegar. Always greens. Brown rice if i'm feeling low on energy. 1 cup of black coffee.

protein shake or small snack like 10 oz of fish cooked day before with some asparagus i cook for the week and bring to work this is between lunch and dinner

Dinner: MASSIVE amount of protein. never from teh tap. shizzo drank it all. Usually i am guilty of red meat 5 times a week. I bake/broil my steak. usually rib eye from the local butcher. With a HUGE amount of vegetables. NEVER carbs for dinner

I'll admit that on some nights i also down an entire carton of ben and jerrys. not most

and one day a week i have an ALL OUT cheat day. this day has 10,000 calories at least including a large pizza to myself

but as you guys know i am 188cm @ 106 kg and 7% bf

so i don't suggest fucking junior go out and try this. or any fat girl like that. ease your way in

but i am POSITIVE guys like AJ, chiro, ro (the bigger guys here who are still lean) etc eat very much like me

[The Wizard of Truth]

I'll compete at 100kg in 12 days at about 8% be max. And I intend on breaking national records. I believe a lean power lifting physique (thick neck, big muscular thighs and flutes and leaning face) is ultimate pussy pulling body too

[Coach is Back!]

I'll compete at 100kg in 12 days at about 8% be max. And I intend on breaking national records. I believe a lean power lifting physique (thick neck, big muscular thighs and flutes and leaning face) is ultimate pushy pulling body too

And because of the way you train. You're much thicker with a more powerful looking physique.

[Var City]

Actually no one knows your 106kg 7% fucking liar

har har har

you must be VERY new here

[devilsmile]

I have been into endurance sport. When your body is adapted and u are in the zone u can force it till u die without pain. There is no pain, if there is pain, u do it wrong!  

yup, I did over half marathons twice a week and some bullshit body weight training almost daily for six months when I laid off from the gym, but when I came back I realized how much more mentally challenging squatting and deadlifting actually is, it was horrifying how exhausting squatting and deadlifting was after that long lay off. During the first two months I had to go puke few times between last sets and I was only doing light weights and high reps.

Intense half Triathlon 3-4 times a week would equal to the mental stress of medium weight/high rep till you die squats and deads, that's my honest opinion. And I didn't say squatting and deading with high reps is more beneficial for cardio than doing triathlons, I said that the mental stress is similar maybe then.

[orion]

Complete BS. It's like saying maraton runner could run 100m but not the other way round. Powerlifting is tons of volume, humongous amount of low rep sets of deads, squats and bench many, many times per week. It's up to 30 WORKING sets of squats per week. I could post Belyaev's routine - 6 times per week, sometimes twice a day training with insane volume. His form is impeccable, every rep looks exactly the same and every muscle that is important is fucking huge on this guy.

Powerlifers ARE jacked. They just don't have a lot of muscle that is important to bodybuilders - small biceps, most of the time small chest (bench press over 80% of MAX is all triceps anyway, according to the research), huge quads (unless someone squats like Norton but most of the people don't), insane erectors, hams etc. Also it's different kind of muscle and looks way more impressive, but you have to witness it first hand, pictures don't tell the whole story.

To me most bodybuilders, even the "aesthetic" ones look funny - small waists with weak abs, small erectors, small traps, weird bloated muscles (sarcoplasmic hypertrophy)... They look weak and unathletic.

A marathon runner could not run the hundred meter, but I'm willing to bet a sprinter could run a marathon. Sprinter equals bodybuilder.   When I first joined a serious gym it was shared by a powerlifting team that sent guys to the worlds. but the strongest guy in the gym was a bodybuilder, who eventually won the Canada's. 

As for the volume thing, I'm just a gym rat but I train six days out of nine and so hitting each bodypart twice.  My total number of reps would easily beat Beylavs  Higher reps are way more beneficial than lower reps, That is why bodybuilders look different from powerlifters.  That's not to say I don't beleive in training heavy, I always used to go for maxes, but as I got smarter ( and that took a long long time) I now try to rep out.  If you don't believe me get on the squat rack and see just how much harder it is to do 315 for twenty vs 500 for three.  I know the powerlifters in my gym crap out at around twelve.  Raw of course.

[Thin Lizzy]

Ultra running tends to be done at about 10 min mile pace. Once your aerobic system is well-trained, the cardio isn't the issue. What makes it tough is the nagging stuff like blisters and minor muscle issues that you have to deal with for hours on end.

As someone who runs and lifts, there's nothing that puts me in oxygen debt like a hard set of 12-15 rep squats. With regard to actual pain, high rep crunches produce a lactate build up that eventually leave you no choice but to stop.

[thebrink]

When I see a muscular strength athlete i'm always shocked of how lean they are , even the biggest guys. Huge lean and strong , attained from the use of heavy free weights and good genes. A 5'8 insulin abusing so called "bodybuilder" who only trains machines does not look lean to me they look handicapped weak unathletic and incapable. Even in public these guys get laughed at by normal people , groups of teenagers whispering and laughing at them.

[chaos]

What's a triple?

Cardio.

[jude2]

Were they joking?