UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day)

[Royalty]

Shit.  I thought I was the only one who noticed.  Anyway, my form hasn't been too good lately.  I like to make predictions, it adds an extra element of excitement to the Card for me.  I have followed UFC religiously for years now and I have watched every UFC event ever televised plus all the Ultimate Fighter series.  I have a pretty good handle on fighters strengths and weaknesses.

As for Cormier vs Jones fight, it is a very interesting one.  Cormier no doubt has the better wrestling pedigree but Jones has proven himself against top wrestlers and is a fair grappler himself.  I imagine the gameplan for this fight for Jones is to use his length and keep Cormier at a comfortable distance and look to mix it up with the usual variety of spinning elbows, varied kicks and punches and look for an opportunity to get top position in a ground battle to deliver some fight ending ground and pound.  Jones can be brutal from top position, even from someones guard.   Personally, I want Cormier to win, that's my bias.  I just hate Jones, and when making picks I do have a tendency to let my biases affect my judgement.  

Having said that I do think Cormier can beat Jones, but my concern with this fight is that Cormier is nursing a pretty serious knee injury that should be operated on.  He is delaying this treatment until after this fight which I think is a mistake, when fighting for the title you really do need to be in tip top condition.  I do think Cormier is in Jones head at this moment and this is something he should use to his advantage.  If I was Cormier, my strategy would be a lay and pray one and really frustrate Jones with his superior wrestle fucking and just win on points.  The fans will hate it, but Cormier won't care as he will walk away with the belt and a respectable purse for his efforts.

I am really torn on picking a winner for this fight as it really is that close and could go either way on the day depending on which way the wind blows.  I am going to go out on a limb and say as long as Cormier's knee holds up he will win via points after an intense 5 round wrestle fucking session.  I think if he tries and stands with Jones that will be a mistake that won't see him make it 5 rounds.  Jon Jones has slowly developed a bit of an attitude, an arrogant pride, which given his accomplishments, who can blame him.  But as a fighter that can be a dangerous mindset, and what is the old saying "Pride goeth before a fall"

I bet Cormier doesn't want to risk missing this massive PPV payday.

So for him, it's worth the risk to fight with the knee injury.

[Uncle Junior]

Shit.  I thought I was the only one who noticed.  Anyway, my form hasn't been too good lately.  I like to make predictions, it adds an extra element of excitement to the Card for me.  I have followed UFC religiously for years now and I have watched every UFC event ever televised plus all the Ultimate Fighter series.  I have a pretty good handle on fighters strengths and weaknesses.

As for Cormier vs Jones fight, it is a very interesting one.  Cormier no doubt has the better wrestling pedigree but Jones has proven himself against top wrestlers and is a fair grappler himself.  I imagine the gameplan for this fight for Jones is to use his length and keep Cormier at a comfortable distance and look to mix it up with the usual variety of spinning elbows, varied kicks and punches and look for an opportunity to get top position in a ground battle to deliver some fight ending ground and pound.  Jones can be brutal from top position, even from someones guard.   Personally, I want Cormier to win, that's my bias.  I just hate Jones, and when making picks I do have a tendency to let my biases affect my judgement.  

Having said that I do think Cormier can beat Jones, but my concern with this fight is that Cormier is nursing a pretty serious knee injury that should be operated on.  He is delaying this treatment until after this fight which I think is a mistake, when fighting for the title you really do need to be in tip top condition.  I do think Cormier is in Jones head at this moment and this is something he should use to his advantage.  If I was Cormier, my strategy would be a lay and pray one and really frustrate Jones with his superior wrestle fucking and just win on points.  The fans will hate it, but Cormier won't care as he will walk away with the belt and a respectable purse for his efforts.

I am really torn on picking a winner for this fight as it really is that close and could go either way on the day depending on which way the wind blows.  I am going to go out on a limb and say as long as Cormier's knee holds up he will win via points after an intense 5 round wrestle fucking session.  I think if he tries and stands with Jones that will be a mistake that won't see him make it 5 rounds.  Jon Jones has slowly developed a bit of an attitude, an arrogant pride, which given his accomplishments, who can blame him.  But as a fighter that can be a dangerous mindset, and what is the old saying "Pride goeth before a fall"

Who has Cormier actually fought in his last 7 fights other than a bunch of bums? Matter of fact he's only ever fought 2 decent fighters his whole life. He can't strike for shit, he's slow as fuck and entirely depends on his ground game (has literally nothing else) and has won what like nearly half his fight on points. That's his MO in MMA.

Jones is a totally different breed to Cormier, matter of fact, totally different animal, this doesn't even need further explanation from me.

Cormier's only plan and hope in hell in winning this fight is to score enough take downs and tie Jones up so he can win on points whilst not getting knocked the fuck out.

But that ain't happening against a super ferocious intense guy like Jones. Jones is just too strong and intense and his take down defense is impeccable. Jones is no joke on the ground and is strong as fuck himself and trust me Cormier ain't all that. He's a severely overrated fighter based on previous fights with super weak opposition. Mir was the only half decent fight he's had.

Cormier is going to have his legs smashed to bits on the way in, he's going to be eating elbows and knees all day long in the clench and I see Jones straight knocking out Cormier or dominating him via ground and pound exactly like we got a taste of at the press conference brawl.

Leave your emotions and biases at the door my brother and think about the dollars in your pocket after the fight, the smart money is on Jones
 


 

[gracie bjj]

i think this fights gonna be really fast or a drag out 5 rounder with cormier smothering jones most of the fight on top of jones on ground, im hoping cormier comes out n slams jones on his head n knocks him out cold with that slam. that would make not only my day but my year,id love to hear jones excuses why he lost,trust me hes got a bunch lined up cause he knows his days of having the belt r numbered and that number is closing in fast. im by no means saying jones is scared of cormier,i dont think he is,i think hes scared of losing his king of the hill status n all the big money and fringe benefits that come along with it,thats what hes scared of,not the ass whippin. i dont think any MMA fighter is scared of getting beat up,they r more scared of losing in front of family,freinds ect. im excited to see the fight,its gonna b great

[Royalty]

I think that when the ESPN cameras captured Jones provoking Cormier (off the air), it was revealed that Jones is losing his cool.

It back-fired on him. Cormier was laughing at him, and then fired back. And Jones didn't have much of a response (because shit talking doesn't come naturally to him).

Jones didn't do stuff like that when he was about to fight Shogun, Rampage, or Machida.

[gracie bjj]

as far as jones acting out of his normal(im mr cool and i got this)type attitude and smirk hes acting awful strange cause like i said he knows that cormier presents a way bigger challenge than gustavsenn ever will,jones loves a gustavsenn type of fight where he can open up n use his long limbs,cormier is gonna b on him like white on rice n jones wont have an inch to move. crazy bob cook and javier r wizards in putting together awesome gameplans,then again so is greg jackson so its gonna be good,i will say this,soon as bell rings cormier is gonna have him clinched within 30 seconds n on the floor within 32 seconds,then we will get a chance to see what kind of guard jones has,it better b awesome or hes finished in first rd.if cormier can pick up josh barnett whos 260 lbs n slam him im pretty sure he can pick up 220 lbs jones like a pillow n slam him hard

[oldgolds]

both should be fined and the fight called off.

Stupid fucking assholes.

You can give 'em an education...but you can't give 'em "class".

[OneMoreRep]

Gentlemen, I'm going to clean up a little of the arguments that do not pertain to the Jones vs Cormier material.

No disrespect intended to the parties involved.

"1"

[Royalty]

I think that Cormier will win. I think that training with Cain everyday will be more than enough to prepare Cormier for the fight with Jones.

Although I would not be shocked if Jones won. He has so many weapons.

[hardgainerj]

cormier is going to merk jones

[The Ugly]

http://www.middleeasy.com/fighting/item/13862-spillebagofice-presents-jon-jones-and-daniel-cormier-thee-ultimate-enemies

[Radical Plato]

http://www.middleeasy.com/fighting/item/13862-spillebagofice-presents-jon-jones-and-daniel-cormier-thee-ultimate-enemies

LOL.

[D.O.A.]

In the real world they are best friends! For real!

[Rami]

[Kwon_2]

Ahahahahahha, Rogan got chucked like a bail of hay.  He got up like he didn't know WTF just happened.   

Where was Rogan?

[gracie bjj]

Where was Rogan?

rogan wasnt there,i think he mistaked that guy who resembled rogan as rogan,rogan wasnt even in the building that day

[oldtimer1]

I never doubted Jones and his athleticism but that block head Cormier seems to be a ground and pound machine. I really wonder about the out come of this fight. 

[Cleanest Natural]

anyone rooting for Cormier needs a reality check

[Royalty]

anyone rooting for Cormier needs a reality check

Reality: Cormier is undefeated and he has been training with Cain Velasquez for 4 years.

[Uncle Junior]

anyone rooting for Cormier needs a reality check

x 2

I told these idiots anyone wants to bet Cormier for the win I'll give then 1 point better than any book makers price on the night of the fight up to 10k bet.

I will lay Cormier to lose all day long, he will take a bad beating in this fight.

[Uncle Junior]

Reality: Cormier is undefeated and he has been training with Cain Velasquez for 4 years.

So the fuck what and I trained with John Hathaway...it's a retarded argument.

[Royalty]

So the fuck what and I trained with John Hathaway...it's a retarded argument.

Cain sought out Cormier to help him prepare for fights back in 2010. So if Cain see's something in a fighter; and brings that fighter into his camp, that fighter must be special and talented.

[gracie bjj]

CORMIER WILL WIN,PERIOD.

[Uncle Junior]

Cain sought out Cormier to help him prepare for fights back in 2010. So if Cain see's something in a fighter; and brings that fighter into his camp, that fighter must be special and talented.

Look the way I see it in this fight is that ON BALANCE in terms of striking, wrestling, take down defense, sheer skill set and tenacity Jones will dominate overall.

I keep asking the question who has Cormier actually fought apart from Mir that's been half decent in his last fights?

He's won half his fights on points. His whole plan as usual will be tie Jones up and take him down repeatedly and smother him.

Jones has dealt with  destroyed some ridiculously talented guys in his record, different league to the bums Cormier has been fighting.
 
Jones is different class, different fucking planet almost to what Cormier has ever dealt with and Jones's ground game is underrated and his take down defense is impeccable.

Cormier is just looking to cash in on his pay day and is going into the fight injured and Jones's mentality in the build up all shows me he is in an entirely in a killer zone mindset.

Look the bookmakers usually don't get things wrong, they have researcher fucking examining ever single aspect of a fighter from what they eat to who they fuck to when they last picked their nose (trust me I know cos I was in that game) and they rightly have Jones as favorite.

If they thought Cormier was going in as a favorite they would have priced the market up that way but they haven't.

Baring flukes, major fuck ups realistically the only shot Cormier has of wining this fight is on points and I don't see Jones letting him get away with his usual tactics here, he's going balls deep on Cormier's ass no doubt, he knows his game plan and what to expect and I can see Cormier eating a whole bunch of knees and elbows coming in and his legs getting smashed to pieces.

Jones via knockout or ground and pound for me.


 


 

[Royalty]

Look the way I see it in this fight it that ON BALANCE in terms of striking, wrestling, take down defense, sheer skill set and tenacity Jones will dominate.

I keep asking the question who has Cormier actually fought apart from Mir that's been half decent in his last 7 fights?

He's won half his fights on points. His whole plan as usual will be tie Jones up and take him down repeatedly and smother him.

Jones has dealt with  destroyed some ridiculously talented guys in his record, different league to the bums Cormier has been fighting.
 
Jones, he is different class, different fucking planet almost to what Cormier has ever dealt with and Jones's ground game is underrated and his take down defense is impeccable.

Cormier is just looking to cash in on his pay day and is going into the fight injured and Jone's mentality is the build up all shows me he in an entirely in a killer zone .

Look the bookmakers usually don't get things wrong, they have researcher fucking examining ever single aspect of a fighter from what they eat to who they fuck to when they picked their nose last  (trust me I know cos I was in that game) and they rightly have Jones as favorite.

If they thought Cormier was going in as a favorite they would have priced the market up that way but they haven't.

Baring flukes, major fuck ups realistically the only shot Cormier has of wining this fight is on points and I don't see Jones letting him get away with his usual tactics here, he's going balls deep on Cormier's ass no doubt, he knows his game plan and what to expect and I can see Cormier eating a whole bunch of knees and elbows coming in and his legs getting smashed to pieces.

Jones via knockout or ground and pound for me.


 


 

I thought that Cormier looked very good when he KO'd Bigfoot. He did not wrestle Bigfoot... he boxed him. Cormier knocked Bigfoot down several times.

[thebrink]

I thought that Cormier looked very good when he KO'd Bigfoot. He did not wrestle Bigfoot... he boxed him. Cormier knocked Bigfoot down several times.

Although huge , Big Foot is nowhere near as dynamic a fighter as Jones.