Random AnabolicHalo ramblings

[Cutlet767]

Yes steroids are dangerous in so many ways.

Any worthwhile use can be classified as abuse of the body as a whole, but it's still better than looking like cutlet69.

True, but I bet off the drugs I could make you cry just by telling you your arms are looking smaller. Easier if you're running Clomid. 

[Simple Simon]

Leaner... What does this word mean.. to you? Lean... In the context of bodybuilding, is lower body fat to muscle mass ratio.

How... in the hell can you have a lower body fat to muscle mass ratio as a natural off drugs, than you do on stage, dry 4% and shredded running non-aromatising compounds, and diuretics for clearing out water completely?  

Since you referenced Levrone... look at his face in this video... and tell me it doesn't look leaner than any pic or video of him as a natural:

;p

You must be trolling, the guy is in contest shape,  he has never been in contest shape as a natural so of course his face isnt as lean.

[no one]

cutlet have you ever used t3 clen or an anabolic steroid?

a simple yes or no will suffice.

[anabolichalo]

first rule of fight club

[Cutlet767]

It is depressing listening to them. They seem lost. Lost in many ways. Lost in memories of 'what was...'

Their bodies have never returned to a 'normal' operational capacity by any means. Neither have their minds.

There is a lesson to be learned there.

If you have spent a lifetime around bodybuilders, being one yourself, but deciding NOT to push the limits, but yet constantly hanging with those who do, you will now, at this point in life see what the excess has done to them physically, mentally, spiritually and socially.


Its not a laughing matter.

The worst part is watching the young guys headed down the same highway at full speed. They dont care about the repercussions.

Tomorrow seems so far away... and then suddenly "POOF!"... tomorrow is upon you, and you are not feeling so hot. You can't function normally and you know it, but you still try, because you do remember the attitude you once had.

A dichotomy or sorts I suppose.


Nothing in this life seems to come without repercussions. The question is; will the repercussions be tolerable?


In the fitness industry....it's getting to the point of ... "I think I'd rather drive a truck..."

The repercussions are rarely ever tolerable, because these guys get so detached from reality (understandably) on the drugs, it'd be far too much to expect for them to deal with having to stop taking them. Tomorrow usually comes much sooner than the vast majority would like...

[Cutlet767]

;p

You must be trolling, the guy is in contest shape,  he has never been in contest shape as a natural so of course his face isnt as lean.

You mentioned that their faces are leaner when they come off the drugs. You explicitly stated that the drugs cause their faces to look more bloated than when they're natural...

[Complex Carbs]

cutlet have you ever used t3 clen or an anabolic steroid?

a simple yes or no will suffice.

Allow me to add another question.

Cuntlet, have you ever done a gym lifting weights session in your life?

No?

Why are you here, then?

[Simple Simon]

You mentioned that their faces are leaner when they come off the drugs. You explicitly stated that the drugs cause their faces to look more bloated than when they're natural...

I did?

[Cutlet767]

I did?

That was Complex Carbs who said that, not you.

[the trainer]

just found out today that a guy i used to train with 10 years ago suffered a mild stroke recently, he was on for 6 years straight, don't exactly know what he was taking but he looked like a regular gym rat. I believe that long term steroid use definetely takes a tole on ur body

You sound like the mainsteam media somebody has a stroke so it must be steroids, alcohol,painkillers and other drugs form the pharmacy, processed foods etc no of this played a role it must be the steroids.  

[Cutlet767]

Allow me to add another question.

Cuntlet, have you ever done a gym lifting weights session in your life?

No?

Why are you here, then?

There's really no need to get defensive... I can understand if what I've said in this thread upsets you (since it's all true), but try to come to terms with it (if you're a user), and if you're not, and you want to go on, try to consider the true magnitude of the decision you're going to make.

By all means guys, go off steroids tomorrow permanently if you want a first hand experience of just how badly it'll affect you physically, psychologically, and socially (meaning in the way your peers will treat you, and regard you). I am NOT wrong. There may be some exceptions, but they will be FEW and very specific. Truth be told, you all don't truly understand just how massively the drugs contribute to the lives you currently live... and not just to your physique.

[Complex Carbs]

There's really no need to get defensive... I can understand if what I've said in this thread upsets you (since it's all true), but try to come to terms with it (if you're a user), and if you're not, and you want to go on, try to consider the true magnitude of the decision you're going to make.

By all means guys, go off steroids tomorrow permanently if you want a first hand experience of just how badly it'll affect you physically, psychologically, and socially (meaning in the way your peers will treat you, and regard you). I am NOT wrong. There may be some exceptions, but they will be FEW and very specific.

Hey, here is an idea, by all means, go stick a dildo in your ass and then deepthroat that.

[BigRo]

Lol, Clenbuterol and T3 make dieting easier. I don't know how you think dieting is just as hard as if you didn't run these drugs... why would you think such a thing? Why are these drugs used, if they're not there to assist the enhanced bodybuilder?

This is nothing to do with YouTube videos. You're in denial. Do some research on the drugs you use.... And how they help you... ASSIST you in achieving your goals.

they help get to the desired outcome faster but only along side a strict diet. They make it harder by increasing appetite, and clen increases mental stress and edginess making going without sedating meals that much harder.

[Cutlet767]

Hey, here is an idea, by all means, go stick a dildo in your ass and then deepthroat that.

lol... Still can't comprehend how this gets to you so much... Really, what did you THINK? You must know on some level just how dependent you are on your current look, and the means by which you have attained it.

they help get to the desired outcome faster but only along side a strict diet. They make it harder by increasing appetite, and clen increases mental stress and edginess making going without sedating meals that much harder.

If you get there faster... surely overall, the experience is easier. If it takes less time, then it means it's helping you burn fat faster. Therefore more fat is burned than you would otherwise.

I'm not saying it's a cake walk. I'm emphasizing that it has an undeniable place in a bodybuilder's arsenal. And, speeding up your metabolic rate dramatically does afford you the option of consuming more calories even when dieting...  These guys in this thread are mostly downplaying the significance of the drugs. As most bodybuilders tend to.

[BigRo]

There's really no need to get defensive... I can understand if what I've said in this thread upsets you (since it's all true), but try to come to terms with it (if you're a user), and if you're not, and you want to go on, try to consider the true magnitude of the decision you're going to make.

By all means guys, go off steroids tomorrow permanently if you want a first hand experience of just how badly it'll affect you physically, psychologically, and socially (meaning in the way your peers will treat you, and regard you). I am NOT wrong. There may be some exceptions, but they will be FEW and very specific. Truth be told, you all don't truly understand just how massively the drugs contribute to the lives you currently live... and not just to your physique.

what's your own experience on the matter...have you used gear, have you tried to come off, or come off successfully for good?

[Cutlet767]

what's your own experience on the matter...have you used gear, have you tried to come off, or come off successfully for good?

I'm an ex professional bodybuilder...

Not really. I just know, what I know. And, I've seen enough. We'll have to leave it at that.

[BigRo]

why do we have to leave it at that? your completely annon, we dont know your real name or face so why cant you just say have you used and gone through any of the things you have talked so eloquently about?

[Cutlet767]

why do we have to leave it at that? your completely annon, we dont know your real name or face so why cant you just say have you used and gone through any of the things you have talked so eloquently about?

Nope. But, that doesn't mean anythign I've said is false. It just means I haven't been unfortunate enough to go through it myself, although I know guys who have.

[BigRo]

whats your fascination with it then, are you a lifetime dedicated natural trainer?

[Cutlet767]

whats your fascination with it then, are you a lifetime dedicated natural trainer?

Experiencing it does fascinate you. But it's definitely no laughing matter. And, letting people know what could be in store for them when they choose to start down this road (who might be reading this thread) isn't really a bad idea.

[whitewidow]

True man, I agree.  But consider that when you go off, she becomes the man in the relationship because you no longer run anything. You no loner compete, and you have no gains. She'll have the competitions still, and be the face of everything you both founded. She'll have her social media presence, her offline presence, and expo presence, and will still have those shallow friends treating her just the same as they used to unlike you, you become a shadow. because psychologically people will have to adjust to the new you. Anyone who has gone off notices that people treat them a LOT differently when they're no longer big. How would you feel about that?

This is also why you should stay off unless you are serious about adding testosterone as part of who you are. It's literally like fitting in a new permanent piece to your body.

Also, people, don't cite guys like Levrone and Flex Wheeler etc because they still have some level of power and influence over the fans because of who they used to be... their faces and personalities and accomplishments in the sport OVERCAME their physique and lifestyle. They managed to carve their names in history, so they will never be looked at with anything but respect even after all the gains are gone.

That's why you always stay on some shit even if it's just a light cruise.

[the trainer]

Nope. But, that doesn't mean anythign I've said is false. It just means I haven't been unfortunate enough to go through it myself, although I know guys who have.

So you are here talking from second hand knowledge from things you heard other people say  well I will pass on your shit then.

[Cutlet767]

So you are here talking from second hand knowledge from things you heard other people say  well I will pass on your shit then.

This isn't second hand knowledge of what people said. It's what I've witnessed.

Also, passing on it.. fair enough, but what I'm saying is completely logical.

Damn 9 page thread! just go on or taper off or cruise on something light not too hard of a decision to make. I went off and got more pussy then when I was on because I wasn't constantly fixated on myself. I still looked decent natty and most women could give a fuck especially if you make some cash and can still be a dominant male somehow.

How long were you off? Long enough to lose all your gains? Doubtful. 

Also, yes, you can still get women and return to "normality". But only if your life and everything in it does not revolve around the physique you build.

[whitewidow]

Damn 9 page thread! just go on or taper off or cruise on something light not too hard of a decision to make. I went off and got more pussy then when I was on because I wasn't constantly fixated on myself. I still looked decent natty and most women could give a fuck especially if you make some cash and can still be a dominant male somehow.

[the trainer]

Damn 9 page thread! just go on or taper off or cruise on something light not too hard of a decision to make. I went off and got more pussy then when I was on because I wasn't constantly fixated on myself. I still looked decent natty and most women could give a fuck especially if you make some cash and can still be a dominant male somehow.

This only works if you go to new places to try and get laid if you are known around town as a big dude and then you shrink the girls are thinking you have aids or something, it will be tough getting laid.