Any Vets in here? Today was my last day in the navy

[SF1900]

To receive 90% of your check, don't you have to be REALLY disabled? 

Im assuming the more severe the disability, the greater your disability check is. No?

[forillagorilla]

To receive 90% of your check, don't you have to be REALLY disabled? 

Im assuming the more severe the disability, the greater your disability check is. No?

You would think... The problem is that much like "white guilt" there is an outpouring of "understanding" for disabled vets.
As my above post says - I am most definitely military minded and when a soldier - sailor - airman or Marine is wounded in the combat I think that we OWE it to them to take care.
However - when it becomes whored out - it lessens the meaning and it turns people off. When they see a guy that god forbid was "on the front line" (which can mean a shit load of things) and he worked in Admin, but came home with horrible PTSD - wtf do you expect people to say. I will leave myself out of the discussion but both my father and grandfather are legitimate war heros. Both were wounded multiple times and we look at their Purple Hearts with a sense of pride. Were they "scarred" - I guess fucking so. My grandfather was Skipper of a destroyer and was under attack from kamakazi on 6 separate occasions. He lost his junior officer in one attack and was torn by shrapnel in another. Know how he dealt with it?? He drove the mother fucking boat like he was supposed to and ordered his gunners to clip the wings from incoming sneaky ass Japanese. He has written quite a bit on how the Japanese pilots weren't NEARLY as brave as they were portrayed. MOST lost their will just before the moment of reckoning and fell harmlessly into the sea..
Anyway - I digress - point is that war is SUPPOSED to fucking suck and hearing these stories is SUPPOSED to make us fear war and avoid it...
Legitimate disability should be handled but making men wards of the state when they could be productive is simply enslaving them. Exactly how the Democrat party has enslaved minorities - although more and more you are hearing from minorities that are sick of that shit and they are growing stronger in numbers. 

[SF1900]

I would like to see here the service records of the Critics on here. Guys who never had the Balls to join up. ANY Man or Woman who serves or has served has my respect American or British. Enough said on this. this is a Bodybuilding Forum but stop your Disrespect to guys like Navy-Mike. I get a War Pension myself, details i won´t go into on here. Am i a wanker too? Do i deserve it?. Walk the Walk or Shut it.

I assume there is a difference between a war pension and disability. If he got a war pension for serving that is a different story.

However, claiming you are disabled when you're not, is wrong, even if you served. It's mainly wrong because youre milking the system and taking it away from people who REALLY need it. The fact that he is a roided up bodybuilder, well, is going to make people wonder how disabled he really is. Sure, people who are disabled can still go to the gym. But how many disabled roided bodybuilders do you know who are disabled, while simultaneously collecting disability from the VA (or wherever the money comes from)?

[SF1900]

You would think... The problem is that much like "white guilt" there is an outpouring of "understanding" for disabled vets.
As my above post says - I am most definitely military minded and when a soldier - sailor - airman or Marine is wounded in the combat I think that we OWE it to them to take care.
However - when it becomes whored out - it lessens the meaning and it turns people off. When they see a guy that god forbid was "on the front line" (which can mean a shit load of things) and he worked in Admin, but came home with horrible PTSD - wtf do you expect people to say. I will leave myself out of the discussion but both my father and grandfather are legitimate war heros. Both were wounded multiple times and we look at their Purple Hearts with a sense of pride. Were they "scarred" - I guess fucking so. My grandfather was Skipper of a destroyer and was under attack from kamakazi on 6 separate occasions. He lost his junior officer in one attack and was torn by shrapnel in another. Know how he dealt with it?? He drove the mother fucking boat like he was supposed to and ordered his gunners to clip the wings from incoming sneaky ass Japanese. He has written quite a bit on how the Japanese pilots weren't NEARLY as brave as they were portrayed. MOST lost their will just before the moment of reckoning and fell harmlessly into the sea..
Anyway - I digress - point is that war is SUPPOSED to fucking suck and hearing these stories is SUPPOSED to make us fear war and avoid it...
Legitimate disability should be handled but making men wards of the state when they could be productive is simply enslaving them. Exactly how the Democrat party has enslaved minorities - although more and more you are hearing from minorities that are sick of that shit and they are growing stronger in numbers. 

My grandfather fought in WW 2 in the Battle of the Bulge. I still have some of his old military stuff.

And I think that is the point that people are arguing. That Navy Mike does not have a legitimate disability to qualify for receiving 90% of his paycheck.

[headhuntersix]

Congrats dude....I'm in SA as well. Two more years till retirement myself.

[Howard]

Hey guys any vets here on get big?  This was a long time coming but Today was my last day after 9 years of service due to a knee injury.
Anyone have any advice? Im already signed up for school as I know there is no way i can be competitive in the job market with out one


Btw the alpha beard is already underway

I was active duty USMC from 1979-1983. I wasted 3 years dicking around working as a bar bouncer and trying to go to school part time when I first got out. You are smart to go back to school right away and get a good education with your vet benefits.
I got certified to teach HS chemistry and physics and had no problems getting a job and also coached , right after I graduated.
I went to grad school evenings and in the summer and was able to get a college teaching position a few years ago.

Being a CPA is another good, solid option with lots of jobs and career shots.

Good luck.

[SamoanIrishman]

USMC 8yrs here. Blown up on 3rd deployment. Get all you can from them... expect long waits from the VA and bene offices.

[Competitor 9]

Thank all you guys for the kind words. I did deploy 3 times to the Middle East, I was a operator and a technician for a system called the slq-32 and mk-53. Along woth over head satellite stuff I cant go to deep into.

Basiclly my job was to be a radar expert or "Elint" so I analized radars of any platform that had one subs, ships, planes, missles you name it and based on those parametric data I was able to tell you what it was.  I was also the guy that would try to defeat a missle by know it's radar and it's weeknesses, can we use chaff? Jamming ? If so what technic is the most productive? Is the missle is seeker or terminal phase? Depending on that my actions completely change and usually of it's sub sonic I have maybe 20 secs to figure it out if it was super I have maybe 10 to 12 depending on seeker turn on. One of those jobs you hope you never have to do.


Here is how I hurt my knee. When we where in the Persian gulf we would do "mass casualty" drills once or twice a day. Being in constant missle range of Iran and the fact that they point them at you quite often it is a possibility. Basiclly it's like the ship takes a ton of missles and people are dead there are fires every where and equipment is all messed up and everyone is doing there part to try to fix or fight everything. 

Being the lead technician I was on the side of the training team.. I'd have to run all over the ship to the different areas to train the guys and I had to do it like no shit it was going down

When we are in this mode we set somthing that's called zebra where the entire ship is compartmentlized and every door is shut. Well running up and down through this tiny schudles and I ended up bashing my knee so bad trying to shot up from one I cracked my knee bone and ruptured a good size piece of cartlidge out of my knee... It's pretty painful and is even hard to walk long distances as my knee is kinda floating on a big piece of missing cartlidge   

[Tapeworm]

My grandpa was 4F.  He stayed home and fucked your grandma.

Think your grammy was a good girl?  Your grammy was a slut.  You don't see it now she's old or dead but your grandma was the biggest cockhound in 3 states.  That polkadot dress came up for any remaining dick in town.

Grandpa was no dummy.

[Howard]

Thank all you guys for the kind words. I did deploy 3 times to the Middle East, I was a operator and a technician for a system called the slq-32 and mk-53. Along woth over head satellite stuff I cant go to deep into.

Basiclly my job was to be a radar expert or "Elint" so I analized radars of any platform that had one subs, ships, planes, missles you name it and based on those parametric data I was able to tell you what it was.  I was also the guy that would try to defeat a missle by know it's radar and it's weeknesses, can we use chaff? Jamming ? If so what technic is the most productive? Is the missle is seeker or terminal phase? Depending on that my actions completely change and usually of it's sub sonic I have maybe 20 secs to figure it out if it was super I have maybe 10 to 12 depending on seeker turn on. One of those jobs you hope you never have to do.


Here is how I hurt my knee. When we where in the Persian gulf we would do "mass casualty" drills once or twice a day. Being in constant missle range of Iran and the fact that they point them at you quite often it is a possibility. Basiclly it's like the ship takes a ton of missles and people are dead there are fires every where and equipment is all messed up and everyone is doing there part to try to fix or fight everything.  

Being the lead technician I was on the side of the training team.. I'd have to run all over the ship to the different areas to train the guys and I had to do it like no shit it was going down

When we are in this mode we set somthing that's called zebra where the entire ship is compartmentlized and every door is shut. Well running up and down through this tiny schudles and I ended up bashing my knee so bad trying to shot up from one I cracked my knee bone and ruptured a good size piece of cartlidge out of my knee... It's pretty painful and is even hard to walk long distances as my knee is kinda floating on a big piece of missing cartlidge    

Sounds like you would make a damn good math or fellow physics teacher* ( LOL God help you).
You're radar experience will give you a leg up on applied math and the lifestyle of teaching might suit you?
Plus, you can teach full time without having to move around too fast.
Most school districts would be glad to have you and your military bearing is what you need to maintain order and discipline.

Go to a basic state college near your home and get at it.
FYI, my dad was a navy man and served on the Coral Sea back in WWII

[Simple Simon]

Thank all you guys for the kind words. I did deploy 3 times to the Middle East, I was a operator and a technician for a system called the slq-32 and mk-53. Along woth over head satellite stuff I cant go to deep into.

Basiclly my job was to be a radar expert or "Elint" so I analized radars of any platform that had one subs, ships, planes, missles you name it and based on those parametric data I was able to tell you what it was.  I was also the guy that would try to defeat a missle by know it's radar and it's weeknesses, can we use chaff? Jamming ? If so what technic is the most productive? Is the missle is seeker or terminal phase? Depending on that my actions completely change and usually of it's sub sonic I have maybe 20 secs to figure it out if it was super I have maybe 10 to 12 depending on seeker turn on. One of those jobs you hope you never have to do.


Here is how I hurt my knee. When we where in the Persian gulf we would do "mass casualty" drills once or twice a day. Being in constant missle range of Iran and the fact that they point them at you quite often it is a possibility. Basiclly it's like the ship takes a ton of missles and people are dead there are fires every where and equipment is all messed up and everyone is doing there part to try to fix or fight everything. 

Being the lead technician I was on the side of the training team.. I'd have to run all over the ship to the different areas to train the guys and I had to do it like no shit it was going down

When we are in this mode we set somthing that's called zebra where the entire ship is compartmentlized and every door is shut. Well running up and down through this tiny schudles and I ended up bashing my knee so bad trying to shot up from one I cracked my knee bone and ruptured a good size piece of cartlidge out of my knee... It's pretty painful and is even hard to walk long distances as my knee is kinda floating on a big piece of missing cartlidge    I hurt my knee playing soldiers.

[Competitor 9]

Sounds like you would make a damn good math or fellow physics teacher* ( LOL God help you).
You're radar experience will give you a leg up on applied math and the lifestyle of teaching might suit you?
Plus, you can teach full time without having to move around too fast.
Most school districts would be glad to have you and your military bearing is what you need to maintain order and discipline.

Go to a basic state college near your home and get at it.
FYI, my dad was a navy man and served on the Coral Sea back in WWII

I've considered teaching, I was a instructor at my last command and I was ok at it.. Damn corral sea? I could imagine the stories... Thats back when men where men

[Howard]

USMC 8yrs here. Blown up on 3rd deployment. Get all you can from them... expect long waits from the VA and bene offices.

Sorry to hear that Jarhead. What got ya?

[Simple Simon]

I've considered teaching, I was a instructor at my last command and I was ok at it.. Damn corral sea? I could imagine the stories... Thats back when men where men and didnt claim money when they were not entitled to it

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[Howard]

I've considered teaching, I was a instructor at my last command and I was ok at it.. Damn corral sea? I could imagine the stories... Thats back when men where men

He was a gunner mate with a 3man gun crew. Told me about when they shot a kami-kazi before he crashed into the deck.
Be sure to major in math or science so you can get a teaching job easier.

[Competitor 9]

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Say what you want dosnt effect me, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't say what your saying to a group of marines fresh back from Afghanistan. Hell I take it one step further I best you would say that to one of them to there face. 

[The True Adonis]

Thank all you guys for the kind words. I did deploy 3 times to the Middle East, I was a operator and a technician for a system called the slq-32 and mk-53. Along woth over head satellite stuff I cant go to deep into.

Basiclly my job was to be a radar expert or "Elint" so I analized radars of any platform that had one subs, ships, planes, missles you name it and based on those parametric data I was able to tell you what it was.  I was also the guy that would try to defeat a missle by know it's radar and it's weeknesses, can we use chaff? Jamming ? If so what technic is the most productive? Is the missle is seeker or terminal phase? Depending on that my actions completely change and usually of it's sub sonic I have maybe 20 secs to figure it out if it was super I have maybe 10 to 12 depending on seeker turn on. One of those jobs you hope you never have to do.


Here is how I hurt my knee. When we where in the Persian gulf we would do "mass casualty" drills once or twice a day. Being in constant missle range of Iran and the fact that they point them at you quite often it is a possibility. Basiclly it's like the ship takes a ton of missles and people are dead there are fires every where and equipment is all messed up and everyone is doing there part to try to fix or fight everything. 

Being the lead technician I was on the side of the training team.. I'd have to run all over the ship to the different areas to train the guys and I had to do it like no shit it was going down

When we are in this mode we set somthing that's called zebra where the entire ship is compartmentlized and every door is shut. Well running up and down through this tiny schudles and I ended up bashing my knee so bad trying to shot up from one I cracked my knee bone and ruptured a good size piece of cartlidge out of my knee... It's pretty painful and is even hard to walk long distances as my knee is kinda floating on a big piece of missing cartlidge   

You don`t have to go too deep into it.

All the manuals are online anyways.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a090473.pdf

[Competitor 9]

You don`t have to go too deep into it.

All the manuals are online anyways.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a090473.pdf

Those are like the generic version the ones I worked with where 1000's of pages lol

[Simple Simon]

Say what you want dosnt effect me, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't say what your saying to a group of marines fresh back from Afghanistan. Hell I take it one step further I best you would say that to one of them to there face.  

Yes because all marines are rough tough guys.  

Grow some balls Mike and stand on your own two good legs.

[The True Adonis]

Say what you want dosnt effect me, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't say what your saying to a group of marines fresh back from Afghanistan. Hell I take it one step further I best you would say that to one of them to there face. 

I`ll tell you what.  Jezebelle's grandfather was one rank away from Admiral and in charge of an entire Naval hospital and was in every offense since the Korean War to the Gulf.  He saw the change in the coddling first hand and would always speak of it.  He would have denied your request I am sure.  Its sad what has become the norm as over half now claim disability.  

[MAXX]

I sailed alot as a kid so I like to say I've seen some action

[headhuntersix]

Plenty of jobs here for vets. If you go Gov use your vet preference points. USAA is always hiring people....good luck.

[The True Adonis]

Plenty of jobs here for vets. If you go Gov use your vet preference points. USAA is always hiring people....good luck.

How can he be hired, he is "disabled".  Remember?

[Competitor 9]

I'll say this, if some of you truly feel the way you do about the military and there benifits (funny I don't think some of you are even American so I do know why you have a option on how we treat out vets). I've never meet a vet that said hey I've spend years away from America, with stress levels so high I have mental problems now but I won't take the VA disability.

Say what you will, but I earned mine. If you don't feel that way lets ask you did you serve? No vet would ever ever talk down  to a fellow vet for getting his benifits... That's why I don't put to much though into the ones in disagreement are the ones that never put a uniform on.

I've leanered a lot about life and that war is a horrible thing... It's one thing to read about 100,000 people dying in a history book it's another to live it. I've learned that the military is a huge political and humanitarian arm as well. But most of all a show of for. Unlike what the libs like you to belive the real world respects force and power. It's funny that you could get your ass whooped keeps you inline.. Almost like the US are the parents but to keep economical stability it's needed. Just the way the world works  

[Competitor 9]

How can he be hired, he is "disabled".  Remember?

100% disabilty and you can't work