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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2014, 07:18:34 AM »
Does this make your point No One?

This is about 4-5 days after competing.
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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2014, 07:21:11 AM »
He looks EXACTLY the same No One 3 weeks out, 5 weeks out, 10 weeks out, show date with little varianace so I fail to see your point.

The thing is, when he flexes, everything just pops.  Its pretty amazing actually.

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2014, 07:21:35 AM »
this isn't about me being right or anyone being wrong. it's just my opionion based what a lot of experience w tren. like 15 years worth.

nobody knows what these guys take. maybe their gfs know. truth of the matter is nobody knows what anybody takes or doesn't take. it all speculation.

I see a guy who's 4-5 weeks out w a graininess / density that most nattys never carry. ever. thick dense round delts. then show time and post show time those shoulders density and graininess are GONE. where did they go? whered that density and graininess disappear to. if it was genetic he'd have it all the time. pre contest/ post show on vacation walking around Vegas. he doesn't. ffs he doesht even look like the same person lol c'mon man.
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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2014, 07:25:02 AM »
this isn't about me being right or anyone being wrong. it's just my opionion based what a lot of experience w tren. like 15 years worth.

nobody knows what these guys take. maybe their gfs know. truth of the matter is nobody knows what anybody takes or doesn't take. it all speculation.

I see a guy who's 4-5 weeks out w a graininess / density that most nattys never carry. ever. thick dense round delts. then show time and post show time those shoulders density and graininess are GONE. where did they go? whered that density and graininess disappear to. if it was genetic he'd have it all the time. pre contest/ post show on vacation walking around Vegas. he doesn't. ffs he doesht even look like the same person lol c'mon man.
Disappear?

You can find tons of pics of him looking exactly the same 2 days out, 4 days out, 5 days post contest.  He does many, many contest prep threads. 

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2014, 07:25:19 AM »
even with supercompensation / rebound he can't match the size and fullness or density he had 3-5 weeks out. lol

so ya. even further makes my point.
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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2014, 07:34:17 AM »
even with supercompensation / rebound he can't match the size and fullness or density he had 3-5 weeks out. lol

so ya. even further makes my point.
Bullshit.
2 days out


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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2014, 07:38:17 AM »
TA if you what you believe this guy is clean then that great. we don't share the same opinion. your not right. I'm not wrong. I'm not taking anything away from the guy I think he looks amazing. I wish I could get off my lazy ass and arse myself into trying to get that lean one day. I just don't have the disciplene.

cause that's exactly what he's built his physique on and why he looks so great. he's 100% dedicated and committed and I applaud that.

those shows are separated by the thinnest of margins. even an incremental increase in your physique could mean the difference between 1st and 5th. I see not just an incremental increase but a huge difference between his weeks out pic and his stage pics, even his 2 day out pic.

the fact is he's incrementally better - not just in conditioning - everywhere- in his weeks out pics than he looks fully super compensated when guys look their BEST- fullest, most dense  most round. even fully supered 1-3 days post he still can't touch his density and roundness and fullness in the ball cap pics.

if anything it only further guts the guys claims.

just saying lol
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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2014, 07:39:01 AM »
John Hansen has admitted past drug usage on various forums so that one is obvious. 
He writes on here and over at Raw Iron. Always found him to be a nice Guy.

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2014, 07:46:37 AM »

look at the photoshoot pics. the upshot pic of him in boardies. Vegas. then look at his weeks out pics. lol Jesus

id bet my house those pics were post show. they go to LV for a vacation after or was the show there?

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2014, 07:55:59 AM »
look at the photoshoot pics. the upshot pic of him in boardies. Vegas. then look at his weeks out pics. lol Jesus

id bet my house those pics were post show. they go to LV for a vacation after or was the show there?




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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2014, 08:03:40 AM »
Ta gone full  troll mode. Poor attempt at baiting brother.

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2014, 08:12:51 AM »
its the vascularity that gives it away for me.

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2014, 08:25:35 AM »
its the vascularity that gives it away for me.
Conditioning has nothing to do with drugs.

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2014, 11:11:11 AM »
That guy really diets on 3000cals?

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2014, 11:21:39 AM »
Conditioning has nothing to do with drugs.
No but inch wide bicep veins do.

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« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2014, 11:33:52 AM »
ok ta

see the difference in the quality of his tissue from pre contest ballcap shots to show date?

every body lumps anabolics into one group- they make you big. if your not big your not on. that's not necessarily true. compounds like tren even at very low doses over a very long time will promote that kind of shoulder density. he's not particularly 'big'. his overall physique isn't what you'd point to and say 'dudes gassing for sure'. it's the density of the tissue in his shoulders.

ever notice the difference between the density in shoulders between the guys in the 70's and even the average gym rat today? a lot of juicing gym rats have better shoulder caps than the pros of the 70's.

that's not due to a variation in training w more focus on shoulder work. lol thats tren. any tren user will tell you when they start back on tren their shoulders cap more and their tissue gets denser that area.

Yes I notice it for sure, especially at higher doses of tren, can almost throw off the balance.

I don't know how or why what is.

the reason he beats poly and urine and why he shows up w much less density in that area come show time is no coincidence. where did his shoulders go? where'd that density and roundness go? lol that's not carb up/ flattening out issues the kid nails his conditioning.

that look- that dry grainy look is the combination of 3 things. diet anti e's and tren. the density is def tren. if it wasn't he'd carry those delts right into the show. MILLIONS of nattys diet down for shows and have the same bf levels. how many have this grainy dense look. none. miller does. that's another story. but norton sure doesn't. I have zero problem believing norton is 100% natty for that very reason.

pulling the mask off ok who's natty is less about actual 'size' but more abt the actual 'look' the natty carries.

 

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #91 on: October 13, 2014, 12:03:06 PM »
Does this make your point No One?

This is about 4-5 days after competing.
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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #92 on: October 13, 2014, 12:05:14 PM »


another natty

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2014, 12:06:57 PM »
this is natural bodybuilding

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #94 on: October 13, 2014, 12:06:57 PM »
No but inch wide bicep veins do.
that's why i always gave cutler benefit of the doubt :D

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #95 on: October 13, 2014, 12:09:29 PM »

natty?

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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #96 on: October 13, 2014, 12:10:41 PM »
Does this make your point No One?

This is about 4-5 days after competing.
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If this could be attained naturally the Supp industry would be handing contracts to this guy left and right !



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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #97 on: October 13, 2014, 12:12:40 PM »
Does this make your point?

Time has come once again! I am flying tomorrow morning to get there early and be ready for all the things that i have to do including my tanning, the Athlete's meetings, Testing (polygraph + Urine) the weight ins, prepare my meals for satuday etc.

Today is going to be a very very busy day...i need to make sure i dont forget anything like my posing trunks LOL! I will be training chest/delts/tris today, packing all my stuff including my foods,food scale, Music Cd's..i also need to make sure i eat all my scheduled meals for today, drink my 2 galls of water, practice my posing a little bit, etc etc...its gonna be a long day.

I will be back sunday night and i will try to post an update with my experiences monday..This is going to be a war!!!!, 19 pros already including a few guys from canada are competing this weekend.

Finally a few shots from this week

This is taken 2 days out.





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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #98 on: October 13, 2014, 12:12:52 PM »
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Re: Natty or Not?
« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2014, 12:14:06 PM »
If this could be attained naturally the Supp industry would be handing contracts to this guy left and right !



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