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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2014, 03:38:23 PM »
I have just prepared a spinach  salad with leftover grilled flank steak, and am currently enjoying all the benefits olive oil has to off nutritionally, as I have poured it on the salad.

Now we must change the subject.

Please give us your educated opinion on the benefits of beet juice, for both health and athletic performance.  Please answer promptly and choose your words carefully, as you have now established credibility and there will be action and consequence to those who follow your advice.

A smoothie with beetroot and watermelon is great for the gym, its high in nitrates and l-citrulline

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2014, 03:38:33 PM »
Seems you are right about olive oil. Who knew?...you knew.

"Most people are aware of the amazing benefits that olive oil provides, but the majority of people are not aware of the adverse properties that the olive oil contains when it is heated. When heated, even at extremely low temperatures all the amazing enzymes and health benefits that the oil contains are destroyed, and in turn the oil itself transforms into a trans fat. This is of the worst types of fats to consume including animal fats. Man made trans fats can increase your ‘bad’ cholesterol and decrease your ‘good’ cholesterol.

Even heating olive oil at a very low temperature causes this oil to transform into this unhealthy, rancid state. Olive oil is better left alone, the way it is, at room temperature. Olive oil is excellent for making salad dressings, using as a dip for bread, and you can even drizzle it over your favorite cooked dishes for that divine, distinctive flavor."

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/05/02/a-truth-about-olive-oil-we-should-all-know/


I think some of those statements are over-kill and not what the majority of what health sciences believe.


"As far as cooking is concerned, when any oil reaches its smoke point (about 410 degrees for olive oil), it will degrade, oxidize (a process that damages the fat molecules), and partially hydrogenate, creating harmful trans fats. But you don't need to get oil that hot to sauté vegetables (300 degrees) or even to fry breaded items (340 degrees). Although those lower temperatures may damage some of the flavonoids, the loss will be trivial. And by starting with a healthy oil, your dish will still be more nutritious. "

"When you heat oils to their smoke point, their chemical composition begins to change as the oils break down. The amounts of antioxidants found in the oils can decrease, removing one of the oil's positive health benefits. High quality extra-virgin olive oil has a high smoke point compared to cheaper olive oils. The Olive Oil Source states that the smoke point of olive oil falls between 365 and 400 degrees F. Olive oil exposed to light and air will have a lower smoke point. Oil that's already been heated one or more times will also smoke at lower temperatures. Olive oil turns to trans fat only when repeatedly reused and heated to very high temperatures."
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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2014, 03:40:22 PM »
A smoothie with beetroot and watermelon is great for the gym, its high in nitrates and l-citrulline

Unfortunately, it's most vile tasting  :-X
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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2014, 04:04:21 PM »
Unfortunately, it's most vile tasting  :-X

Actually when you mix it with watermelon and little bit of honey it does not taste bad.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2014, 04:11:19 PM »

I think some of those statements are over-kill and not what the majority of what health sciences believe.


"As far as cooking is concerned, when any oil reaches its smoke point (about 410 degrees for olive oil), it will degrade, oxidize (a process that damages the fat molecules), and partially hydrogenate, creating harmful trans fats. But you don't need to get oil that hot to sauté vegetables (300 degrees) or even to fry breaded items (340 degrees). Although those lower temperatures may damage some of the flavonoids, the loss will be trivial. And by starting with a healthy oil, your dish will still be more nutritious. "

"When you heat oils to their smoke point, their chemical composition begins to change as the oils break down. The amounts of antioxidants found in the oils can decrease, removing one of the oil's positive health benefits. High quality extra-virgin olive oil has a high smoke point compared to cheaper olive oils. The Olive Oil Source states that the smoke point of olive oil falls between 365 and 400 degrees F. Olive oil exposed to light and air will have a lower smoke point. Oil that's already been heated one or more times will also smoke at lower temperatures. Olive oil turns to trans fat only when repeatedly reused and heated to very high temperatures."

What you are missing is that the breakdown doesn't magically occur at 400 degrees. It begins at much lower temp and increases in speed drastically as it gets hotter. It's just completely fucked at 400 degrees.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2014, 06:07:57 PM »
What about some Snake Oil from some good Brand.
Lots more benefits.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2014, 06:25:22 PM »
So what fucking oil am I supposed to cook with other than coconut? I've always used a decent quality olive oil spray to lightly coat the pan.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2014, 07:07:23 PM »
So what fucking oil am I supposed to cook with other than coconut? I've always used a decent quality olive oil spray to lightly coat the pan.

 :D

If I want something comparable I put Mac nut oil in a little spritzer bottle and spray my pan with that.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #83 on: October 15, 2014, 07:11:13 PM »
:D

If I want something comparable I put Mac nut oil in a little spritzer bottle and spray my pan with that.

Can always count on a fellow body manipulator for a decent answer, cheers Big Cairo.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2014, 07:32:56 PM »
So what fucking oil am I supposed to cook with other than coconut? I've always used a decent quality olive oil spray to lightly coat the pan.

I'm going to continue cooking with olive oil. If it is good enough for the French and the Italians, both of who are healthier than most Americans, it is good enough for me. My go to oil for deep frying is peanut oil.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2014, 08:50:03 PM »
I'm going to continue cooking with olive oil. If it is good enough for the French and the Italians, both of who are healthier than most Americans, it is good enough for me. My go to oil for deep frying is peanut oil.

Bro....didn't you have prostate cancer??

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2014, 10:50:17 PM »
Bro....didn't you have prostate cancer??

Yeah, but it's gone now. Both the prostate and the cancer. Had prostate issues long before olive oil became popular if that's the connection you're trying to make. Old men get prostate cancer. It sucks, but it is what it is.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2014, 10:53:49 PM »
Yeah, but it's gone now. Both the prostate and the cancer. Had prostate issues long before olive oil became popular if that's the connection you're trying to make. Old men get prostate cancer. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Yeah, but I'd still try my best to minimize the toxic load I'm ingesting on a regular basis especially if I already had cancer.

But hey that's just me.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2014, 07:01:34 PM »
Yeah, but it's gone now. Both the prostate and the cancer. Had prostate issues long before olive oil became popular if that's the connection you're trying to make. Old men get prostate cancer. It sucks, but it is what it is.

"Its gone now both the prostate and the cancer" LOL:D... But I have a question on fish oil, I've encountered some article that Omega 3 supplement may increase the risk of prostate cancer in men. Been taking my wife Fish Oil supplement for a month now as alternative to Advil for joint pains... would it be better to take a plant source Omega 3 supplement or fish oil?

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2014, 08:56:25 PM »
"Its gone now both the prostate and the cancer" LOL:D... But I have a question on fish oil, I've encountered some article that Omega 3 supplement may increase the risk of prostate cancer in men. Been taking my wife Fish Oil supplement for a month now as alternative to Advil for joint pains... would it be better to take a plant source Omega 3 supplement or fish oil?

NO, they don't have the dha and epa levels fish oil does and that's where the positive effects from.
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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2014, 08:58:50 PM »
I'm going to continue cooking with olive oil. If it is good enough for the French and the Italians, both of who are healthier than most Americans, it is good enough for me. My go to oil for deep frying is peanut oil.

Terrible way of thinking here. Coconut oil is king shit here, use it, taste real good too!
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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2014, 10:50:54 PM »
Ritch I'm liking what youre postin, you seem like a real smart Neegar

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #92 on: November 27, 2014, 12:18:16 AM »
several universities around the world have done controlled, double blind studies on fish oil and all came up with the same result.

there is ZERO effect... unless you are a lactating mother...and in that case their is a minor benefit.

if you take it, and believe in it, you are experiencing placebo and have been scammed..

look it up.

yes I read a similar study saying the fish oil supps have failed to show the same benefit of eating oily fish.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #93 on: November 27, 2014, 01:31:04 AM »
clearly getbig peeps prefer marketing and pseudo science over facts and controlled test.

believe what you want. the science is not debatable, in fact its all in agreeance.

it does nothing!

NOTHING!

buy it, consume it, spend your hard earned cash. be the ignorant consumer. its your choice.

i ask, why is it so cheap?... look at any supplement or drug that really works...they arent cheap.

theres a reason for this.

either way, theyve proven it doesnt do shit.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #94 on: November 27, 2014, 08:17:04 AM »
clearly getbig peeps prefer marketing and pseudo science over facts and controlled test.

believe what you want. the science is not debatable, in fact its all in agreeance.

it does nothing!

NOTHING!

buy it, consume it, spend your hard earned cash. be the ignorant consumer. its your choice.

i ask, why is it so cheap?... look at any supplement or drug that really works...they arent cheap.

theres a reason for this.

either way, theyve proven it doesnt do shit.

Cod liver oil, bitch.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #95 on: November 27, 2014, 09:32:31 AM »
Ritch I'm liking what youre postin, you seem like a real smart Neegar

LOL! Thanks man, some good posts from you as well...
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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #96 on: November 27, 2014, 12:25:00 PM »
Fish Oil attracts Muscle Bears

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #97 on: November 27, 2014, 12:30:13 PM »
Fish Oil attracts Muscle Bears

You say that like it's something bad? ???

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2014, 03:19:41 PM »
clearly getbig peeps prefer marketing and pseudo science over facts and controlled test.

believe what you want. the science is not debatable, in fact its all in agreeance.

it does nothing!

NOTHING!

buy it, consume it, spend your hard earned cash. be the ignorant consumer. its your choice.

i ask, why is it so cheap?... look at any supplement or drug that really works...they arent cheap.

theres a reason for this.

either way, theyve proven it doesnt do shit.

Niacin works for improving HDL and its cheap as dirt.

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Re: are fish oil supplements worth it?
« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2014, 03:23:15 PM »

Ego maniac doesn't even notice the woman, just staring at his bicep. Typical bodybuilder.