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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2014, 01:41:36 PM »
Maslov is so outdated its laughable.  He is responsible for a lot of the common held myths that "everyone is equal" and other bullshit perpetuated by liberalists thinking everyone has equal ability and that there is no difference in race, gender etc...


nietzsche on equality

Behold the tarantula.

    Revenge sits in your soul: wherever you bite, black scabs grow; your poison makes the soul whirl with revenge. (99c)

Those who preach equality are such tarantulas. For they are secretly vengeful. But Zarathustra will expose them so to deliver higher men from tarantular revenge. (99d)

But preachers of equality will hold to their ways. They will continue to abuse those who are greater than themselves. (100a)

Such men are enthusiastic in their efforts. But it is not from the fire of their hearts; it is just from revenge. They can be elegant and cold, yet from envy and not spirit. And they may be thinkers, but only out of their jealousy.

    Out of every one of their complaints sounds revenge; in their praise there is always a sting, and to be a judge seems bliss to them. (100c)

"For men are not equal: thus speaks justice." Nietzsche
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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2014, 01:43:20 PM »
By the way when are You going to trade your "gains" for ultimate freedom, you clown?

i often wonder if you would talk to people in real life the way you do on here. i know i would. i doubt you would.

you should be more respectful- its better suited to who you'd be outside of here.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2014, 01:44:24 PM »

If I was walking by and saw you like that, I would piss on your head.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2014, 01:45:41 PM »



Hahahahahahaha!


And now you re back... on steroids... living the western way of life ... I guess it sums everything one has to know about the whole spiritual/religious bullshit thing.
Couldnt confirm our point any better.



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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2014, 01:48:30 PM »



Hahahahahahaha!


And now you re back... on steroids... living the western way of life ... I guess it sums everything one has to know about the whole spiritual/religious bullshit thing.
Couldnt confirm our point any better.



He couldn`t deal with the fact that he is a genetic twink.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2014, 01:48:40 PM »

If I was walking by and saw you like that, I would piss on your head.

and I would rip your dick off.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #106 on: October 22, 2014, 01:49:09 PM »

If I was walking by and saw you like that, I would piss on your head.
i wouldnt pee on him, but i would laugh at him, just like i d laugh at his hormonized version in the gym. Some people are just fake.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #107 on: October 22, 2014, 01:50:32 PM »
Not everyone fights for reproduction or resources or care to dominate.  Its no longer necessary.  Life results from the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators.

Our bodies are just the expression of various genes and its the genes that live onward, not the person or organism.  The genes are indifferent to the person or whatever vessel contains the genetic information.

Furthermore, we are not shackled to our genes.  We have control over them.  Just because you are born a certain way or have a certain problem, myopia for instance, does not mean you can`t change or fix it- in this case wearing eye glasses.

If we just let our genes do what they wish, why should we even bother trying to cure diseases, lessen the impact of genetic defects or wear eyeglasses or contacts?

There is a genetic component in almost everything but that does NOT mean you can`t reverse it or change it.  We are not beholden to our "selfish genes" in any way. Just as we can use technology to overcome genetic limitations, we can easily use forethought to choose not to have children. Furthermore, our cultural norms and values and vain desires can also dictate if we replicate. (this is the case for nearly ALL pregnancies)  Human civilization may not have made it this far had we behaved or solely acted according to or on our genetic desires.  

As Steven Pinker says on choosing to be childless-"I am happy to be that way, and if my genes don't like it, they can go jump in the lake."

The welfare state is subsidizing and artificially inflating the birthrates of groups who have proven themselves to be unadapatable to a modern society. Without the aid of the dominate culture they would quickly fate to near extinction levels.  In these same cultures the dominant culture isn't having enough children to replace themselves.  Both of these examples indicate strongly that the proliferation of ones genes isn't always the primary motivation for individuals or groups.  In fact, this strategy works directly against a cultures genes. Weird.
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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2014, 01:50:54 PM »
He couldn`t deal with the fact that he is a genetic twink.
well apparently "meditation" and his "beliefs" werent enough to make him feel secure enough in society. So he needed to inject external male hormones in his body to feel like a real man and deal with his daily life. What a complete phony.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #109 on: October 22, 2014, 01:51:50 PM »
and I would rip your dick off.
Then you haven`t found true enlightenment, now have you?  A person who has found enlightenment in this manner wouldn`t even realize the pee dripping down the side of his head now would he? (or at least they aren`t supposed to).

Why would you be concerned with piss on your head if you are trying to get to another world or plane of understanding?

Oh, I know why.  Because its all bullshit and my pee test proved that!  :D

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #110 on: October 22, 2014, 01:53:30 PM »
is that you in your avatar Ubergay? fuck I was bigger at 15.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2014, 01:54:27 PM »
The welfare state is subsidizing and artificially inflating the birthrates of groups who have proven themselves to be unadapatable to a modern society. Without the aid of the dominate culture they would quickly fate to near extinction levels.  In these same cultures the dominant culture isn't having enough children to replace themselves.  Both of these examples indicate strongly that the proliferation of ones genes isn't always the primary motivation for individuals or groups.  In fact, this strategy works directly against a cultures genes. Weird.

For the middle and upper classes, kids are an expense; for the poor, an income stream viz. government bennies.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2014, 01:54:37 PM »
The welfare state is subsidizing and artificially inflating the birthrates of groups who have proven themselves to be unadapatable to a modern society. Without the aid of the dominate culture they would quickly fate to near extinction levels.  In these same cultures the dominant culture isn't having enough children to replace themselves.  Both of these examples indicate strongly that the proliferation of ones genes isn't always the primary motivation for individuals or groups.  In fact, this strategy works directly against a cultures genes. Weird.
Very good post!  On top of that, you have Republicans and Conservatives trying to put every roadblock and obstacle in the way when it comes to Abortion and birth control.  Its pathetic really.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2014, 01:54:47 PM »
is that you in your avatar Ubergay? fuck I was bigger at 15.

not everyone wants to be a roided out junkie like you.  :-\
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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2014, 01:54:58 PM »
Do I have  to  give up  pussy  too?



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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2014, 01:58:47 PM »
your need to mock other peoples beliefs suggest you to be a very unhappy lonely man  
or maybe im just pointing at their bullshits and exposing them for what they are...

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2014, 02:00:09 PM »
your need to mock other peoples beliefs suggest you to be a very unhappy lonely man  

i dont think of it as "mocking." long gone are the days where you couldn't challenge someones ideas of fear of being killed (talking out against the church often lead to this). we have reached a time where people are no longer going to be fooled into people bullshit ideas. people are going to speak out. For example, psychics always tricked people with their ways. as time progressed, people realized what a crock of shit it is and people are constantly challeging these psychic peoples beliefs that they could conjur up the dead. i, for one, am glad that we live in a time and age where these charlatans are all being challenged. enough with their rhetoric and bullshit.
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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2014, 02:04:51 PM »
i dont think of it as "mocking." long gone are the days where you couldn't challenge someones ideas of fear of being killed (talking out against the church often lead to this). we have reached a time where people are no longer going to be fooled into people bullshit ideas. people are going to speak out. For example, psychics always tricked people with their ways. as time progressed, people realized what a crock of shit it is and people are constantly challeging these psychic peoples beliefs that they could conjur up the dead. i, for one, am glad that we live in a time and age where these charlatans are all being challenged. enough with their rhetoric and bullshit.

or maybe im just pointing at their bullshits and exposing them for what they are...

your doing exactly what you condemn religion of doing. Your as fundamentalist and zealous as any preacher. People like you give genuine atheists a bad name.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #119 on: October 22, 2014, 02:06:27 PM »
i dont think of it as "mocking." long gone are the days where you couldn't challenge someones ideas of fear of being killed (talking out against the church often lead to this). we have reached a time where people are no longer going to be fooled into people bullshit ideas. people are going to speak out. For example, psychics always tricked people with their ways. as time progressed, people realized what a crock of shit it is and people are constantly challeging these psychic peoples beliefs that they could conjur up the dead. i, for one, am glad that we live in a time and age where these charlatans are all being challenged. enough with their rhetoric and bullshit.

There is a massive difference between challenging beliefs with relevant discussion and trying to insult or belittle someone.  

Putting personal homoerotic piss fetishes out in the open has nothing to do with challenging a belief.  I think Uberman was just plain coming onto him.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #120 on: October 22, 2014, 02:06:53 PM »
is that you in your avatar Ubergay? fuck I was bigger at 15.
::)
Oh, the "enlightened one" is comparing himself again.

Lets remind Getbig of what you look like off drugs  (certainly not in Uberman`s league as a natural):




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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #121 on: October 22, 2014, 02:07:12 PM »
For the middle and upper classes, kids are an expense; for the poor, an income stream viz. government bennies.

A very interesting theory about the formation of society is that in the past it was the more intelligent who had the larger number of children because they had the smarts and resources.  The genes for intelligence and civility would pass to the general populations through marriage causing an overall increase in intelligence as these genes circulated throughout the society.  Its the old, a rising tide lifts all boats.  We know this kind of gene transfer occurs for others things so why not intelligence.  There is a strong correlation between societal cohesion and intelligence. Oddly enough, in the present this breeding model is completely reversed.
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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #122 on: October 22, 2014, 02:07:35 PM »
quiet so and you at the right height to bit as well

your angry reactions to other peoples distress patterns here suggests you may be in danger of being an unenlightened Buddha.

its getbig but in real life I would not be any different if he did that, either now as a bodybuilder or back then with a yoga body. I dont need to conform to non violent ideals in every regard.

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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #123 on: October 22, 2014, 02:08:17 PM »
your doing exactly what you condemn religion of doing. Your as fundamentalist and zealous as any preacher. People like you give genuine atheists a bad name.


This argument is so silly. 
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Re: Would you trade your gains for ultimate freedom?
« Reply #124 on: October 22, 2014, 02:08:24 PM »