Author Topic: Seriously what teh fuck is with this antidepressant shit-gym works way better.  (Read 5123 times)

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Your last sentence includes "I would be on antidepressants for life."  Perhaps.....but that is YOU.  Everybody is not wired the same.  Some people cannot "shake it off" or go to the gym to erase depression, anxiety, etc. Therapy helps people, but even that is not enough sometimes.

If your depression "passes" like you say, consider yourself blessed, my friend.  Others are not so lucky.
My point is there is likely more like me, than not like me.


Antidepressants are powerful drugs.

They should only be used as a last resort.

Just talk to anyone about that shit, and it's far from a last resort for 90 percent of people that have been offered them.


Sure a 30 year old that has spent years battling depression should try em.


But people get put on this shit why still in their teens.


If dealing with moderate depression has taught me anything, time has a big factor on the whole deal.

I've dealt with some serious depression in my life, the only reason I don't like calling it serious, was because in large part I was capable of managing it.

I as a rule feel like shit, far more than I feel good.

What I learned is not to place as much importance on the downs.

This wasn't a cheap trick, and fundamentally changed the way I think, furthermore it puts me at odds with alot of the ways main stream society works.

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ive been cruising on 50mg zoloft ED for almost a decade
stuff makes your cock numb, impossible to bust while having sex

imagine what kind of poison that is. takes away your most basic and primary function as a male.

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Honestly I'm so fucking tired of this depression bullshit.

Quite honestly the only thing that ever worked, was realizing the entire medical community as well as most of western society are a bunch of homos(no homo,  phobia intended).


Your depressed go get a job working hard labor in some third world shitwhole, that'll set you straight.

This dude I'm talking too, has been on antidepressants for ten years, and can't get doctor support to get off, wtf is with these pillhead doctors.

Every Day....you have the "answer".


and every day...it's completely different from the last horse shit captain obvious nonsense  you just posted

Yeah you got it all figured out.  ::) ::)

fucking fat imbecile

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Every Day....you have the "answer".


and every day...it's completely different from the last horse shit captain obvious nonsense  you just posted

Yeah you got it all figured out.  ::) ::)

fucking fat imbecile
The fuck you getting on? I never claimed to be good at explaining shit, but I know what I'm talking about.

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Honestly I'm so fucking tired of this depression bullshit.

Quite honestly the only thing that ever worked, was realizing the entire medical community as well as most of western society are a bunch of homos(no homo,  phobia intended).


Your depressed go get a job working hard labor in some third world shitwhole, that'll set you straight.

This dude I'm talking too, has been on antidepressants for ten years, and can't get doctor support to get off, wtf is with these pillhead doctors.

They should ban antidepressants just horrible stuff! I tried some prozac for about a month and I wasn;t even depressed i had anxiety but they just gave me prozac,my blood pressure went sky high and I just felt like shit on them.I had no real reason to be on them. some doctors think it's the answer to everything or they don;t like prescribing drugs for anxiety like xanax and valium because there scheduled drugs unlike all antideprssants. It's more concvenient to the doctor to prescribe some bullshit and not have to use their DEA#. They will lie and say the prozac will help anxiety but it dosn't. I guess if I was born with slight anxiety people are born with depression ,def better ways to deal with it.

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depression is a biological condition which affects the psyche not the other way around

I used to work out in the same gym with a prof of psychiatry at a Univ Med school ,  (in La).
He was an expert in anti-depressive/ bi-polar drugs.

I used to kid him about my need for drugs to make me sane .
Once in between sets, I asked him what % of depressed people really needed drugs.
His answer shocked me.

It was his expert opinion that 80% were depressed by their own choice .
Only 20% had an organic or biological basis for their disorder.

USA Mt Rushmore icon and beloved former  President Teddy Roosevelt often said ; " Get active or go crazy"

I know from my own personal experience that consistent cardio and intense lifting are as important for my sanity and as my physical fitness.
The natural endorphins released from consistent  hard, work are one the best things for your mental health.

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"Depression", what a joke. These slackers should enlist in the Unitesld States Army. They'll learn real quick about trying lay around in bed all morning. Nation of pansies we got.

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I used to kid him about my need for drugs to make me sane .
Once in between sets, I asked him what % of depressed people really needed drugs.
His answer shocked me.

It was his expert opinion that 80% were depressed by their own choice .
Only 20% had an organic or biological basis for their disorder.

That's if you take from a sample of middle aged men.

With the generation nothings, its far closer to 95 percent.


These guys will prescribe this shit even before the patient is diagnosed with an actual condition.

Pretty much all of my friends have been offered antidepressants from docs.

Half of them had alcohol drugs problems, the other half, are narcissitics, OCD, Autism, etc types.

In neither case is pills a good choice.

This pill shit, is basically a doc way of saying he tried, well aware he doesn't have the knowledge or the time to accurately understand his patient.

Each genuine condition requires an individual expert.

There are so many different levels and kinds of depression.

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That's if you take from a sample of middle aged men.

With the generation nothings, its far closer to 95 percent.


These guys will prescribe this shit even before the patient is diagnosed with an actual condition.

Pretty much all of my friends have been offered antidepressants from docs.

Half of them had alcohol drugs problems, the other half, are narcissitics, OCD, Autism, etc types.

In neither case is pills a good choice.

This pill shit, is basically a doc way of saying he tried, well aware he doesn't have the knowledge or the time to accurately understand his patient.

Each genuine condition requires an individual expert.

There are so many different levels and kinds of depression.


The main point from the Doc I talked to was that the vast majority were depressed by their own "choice".
Only a small % have a biological disorder like low dopamine levels.

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The main point from the Doc I talked to was that the vast majority were depressed by their own "choice".
Only a small % have a biological disorder like low dopamine levels.
Yeah, it's important to understand choice though.
 
It's not like you can just think happy thoughts.

Nearly quite the opposite.

You need to have the right kind of reasoning, frankly many people can't get access to it.

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Most people who are depressed have been destroyed by their families -which were suposed to make them strong- or have been dealing with too many traumatizing life experiences. Stress destroys the brain. People needed good caregivers instead they got parents who regreted having given birth to them and mistreated them.
Of course no shrink is going to ever replace , repair, the damage done, which are bad conditionnings originating in childhood and adolescence, basically psys are paid friends, parents who pretend they care about you for a living. And when it doesnt work they give you experimental drugs that fuck with your brain more than it help you cure your past, a past that often CANNOT be cured, it is what it is and tough shit you ve got to live with it, or slowly die from it. Actually anti depressant treatment is  a kind of chemical lobotomy that numbs you while destroying your brain. People who ve been destroyed by their families are of no use for society as they cant play the game and produce something while they fight their way up the hierarchical ladder inside the specie.
Basically they re too weak to resist stress and have not enough skills to compete with stronger opponents. In other animal species the weak are eaten alive and disapear. In the human specie we keep weak people alive because of economical interests; it's a business and it gives jobs to other people who dont really care about their patients, just manage them, deal with them, as resources that allow them to make a living.

In life sometimes what's broken cannot be repaired, and if it cant adapt /cant be of any use  for others anymore it disapears, as simple as that.

Without ''mentally ill'' patients, all these people, psys, pills manufacturers wouldnt have a job and a reason to exist. This is all you ve got to understand; humans are animal who prey on each others weaknesses to make a living. They have no interest in helping you, but an interest in maintaining you alive to make money out of you. Humans are all opportunistic animals preying on each others constantly.

Being depressed only means realizing what you and others truly are; animals randomly fighting each others to death for resources and mates until they can reproduce and before they die. Being successful at it creates the chemical recipe of happiness in the brain, being unsuccessful creates stress and the fear of failing which means dying / approaching death.

A good family, a good education, good upbringings teach a kid to dominate his siblings, develops way of doing so, teach one how to kill instead of being killed by others. A parent feel good teaching their kids how to dominate others because it means they have better odds of survival than others. We are no different than other animal species. If you come from a shit family you have lower odds of survival, or more likely, bigger chances of being bottom feeder. Fact is, life is a gamble. A crual one.

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You're getting depressed if your life loses meaning or you get stuck at something and lose ground. It's inherently connected to frustration and loneliness.
Lundgren is right when he says to put less emphasis on the downs and move on - it's one of the few real means against being depressed and was the weapon of choice in busier and tougher times.
Today people have more cozy lives, especially middle class white faggotarians, and their heads and egos are filled with superficial shit(aka psychozyzz) which is breeding ground zero for mental illness... once the rosy-cosy leaves the sickness leaves too.

I'll leave this thread with a more positive message from world renowned psycho therapist and old school shaman C.G.Jung.
"We're all gonna make it brah!"
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Men created spirituality to give a meaning to life, because if life has no meaning it's pointless and you lose the will to do things, to live at all.  It was a defense mechanism against the fear of aging and death that gave people purpose.  If everyone was believing int he same lie, it would work even better. Then some highly intelligent white men -kant, nietszche, spengler, sartre, camus, schopenhauer , darwin etc-  exposed men naked for what they intrinsically are; egocentric animals which led to atheism, a religion, system of belief in itself, largely followed by most of occidentals worldwide. The new monks, pastors, are psys and the new bible is the pill. Gods are elites. Atheists globablly think the purpose of life is to enjoy it as much as one can, not reproduce, have a career and make as much money as possible. Basically, anti natalist hedonists. As a result, white people are replaced by muslims from the third world, and christian from black africa. In north america, the same process is at work, whites who lost the will to live/reproduce, are getting replaced by christian latinos from south america. In russia, atheist whites not reproducing are getting replaced by chinese and muslims at their borders. In australia, whites are getting replaced by asians, chinese and koreans.

The lifeless, old depressed white race is disapearing after it abandonned spirituality or more precisely, outgrew it. Some will survive joining the newcommers -if you cant beat them- who have nothing to lose, the revengeful barbarians who waited patiently for their finest hour; they ll live in our territories benefiting from everything we left behind, technologically speaking. But who knows, maybe they ll too start reading the aforementionned authors and will know the same fate as the white man, later.

There is one thing that never, ever changed; we re animals fighting each others to death using everything we have, physical or mental weapons, to get access to the best resources and partners of reproduction, to access to power. Everyone wants to dominate instead of being dominated, because that's probably the best way to go through this cruel joke known as life nobody ever chose to be spawned into in the first place.

This is what old people know , the conclusions they came to, and never tell younger ones, and when they do they re quickly dismissed,categorized as negative and "mentally ill". They re put into places where they re sedated until they finally pass away. Sometimes younger people come to the same conclusions as old ones , quicker. They become a danger to society and they either communicate their thoughts thru a sublimating process writings books etc, making money out of it, or thru violence when they can't express themselves, which lead them to being put in prison or mental institutes where...they re sedated until they pass away. Loving life, is loving to play a shady game where everyone pretend to be what they arent, a game of deception and constant lying. But we all die in the end, some just die faster than others and it's completely random. There is no meaning to life other than the wrong, delusional one we create manipulating words in our heads.

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If you have chronic depression and go to a third world country and did hard labor, I'm pretty sure you'd most likely be more depressed.

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This makes no sense.

That's kind of what he does.

and he gets  a chip on his shoulder when you say..."what the fuck are you talking about?"

Only on Getbig do you have an antisocial, aspy , sexually confused ogre....who's a know it all.....LOL

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If i feel bad i just look at the Porn section on here... ;)

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Bunch of Viennese shrinks up in this thread. Oh brother.

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Men created spirituality to give a meaning to life, because if life has no meaning it's pointless and you lose the will to do things, to live at all.  It was a defense mechanism against the fear of aging and death that gave people purpose.  If everyone was believing int he same lie, it would work even better. Then some highly intelligent white men -kant, nietszche, spengler, sartre, camus, schopenhauer , darwin etc-  exposed men naked for what they intrinsically are; egocentric animals which led to atheism, a religion, system of belief in itself, largely followed by most of occidentals worldwide. The new monks, pastors, are psys and the new bible is the pill. Gods are elites. Atheists globablly think the purpose of life is to enjoy it as much as one can, not reproduce, have a career and make as much money as possible. Basically, anti natalist hedonists. As a result, white people are replaced by muslims from the third world, and christian from black africa. In north america, the same process is at work, whites who lost the will to live/reproduce, are getting replaced by christian latinos from south america. In russia, atheist whites not reproducing are getting replaced by chinese and muslims at their borders. In australia, whites are getting replaced by asians, chinese and koreans.

The lifeless, old depressed white race is disapearing after it abandonned spirituality or more precisely, outgrew it. Some will survive joining the newcommers -if you cant beat them- who have nothing to lose, the revengeful barbarians who waited patiently for their finest hour; they ll live in our territories benefiting from everything we left behind, technologically speaking. But who knows, maybe they ll too start reading the aforementionned authors and will know the same fate as the white man, later.

There is one thing that never, ever changed; we re animals fighting each others to death using everything we have, physical or mental weapons, to get access to the best resources and partners of reproduction, to access to power. Everyone wants to dominate instead of being dominated, because that's probably the best way to go through this cruel joke known as life nobody ever chose to be spawned into in the first place.

This is what old people know , the conclusions they came to, and never tell younger ones, and when they do they re quickly dismissed,categorized as negative and "mentally ill". They re put into places where they re sedated until they finally pass away. Sometimes younger people come to the same conclusions as old ones , quicker. They become a danger to society and they either communicate their thoughts thru a sublimating process writings books etc, making money out of it, or thru violence when they can't express themselves, which lead them to being put in prison or mental institutes where...they re sedated until they pass away. Loving life, is loving to play a shady game where everyone pretend to be what they arent, a game of deception and constant lying. But we all die in the end, some just die faster than others.

Well put!
Although I beg to differ regarding the spiritual aspect.
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Men created spirituality to give a meaning to life, because if life has no meaning it's pointless and you lose the will to do things, to live at all.  It was a defense mechanism against the fear of aging and death that gave people purpose.  If everyone was believing int he same lie, it would work even better. Then some highly intelligent white men -kant, nietszche, spengler, sartre, camus, schopenhauer , darwin etc-  exposed men naked for what they intrinsically are; egocentric animals which led to atheism, a religion, system of belief in itself, largely followed by most of occidentals worldwide. The new monks, pastors, are psys and the new bible is the pill. Gods are elites. Atheists globablly think the purpose of life is to enjoy it as much as one can, not reproduce, have a career and make as much money as possible. Basically, anti natalist hedonists. As a result, white people are replaced by muslims from the third world, and christian from black africa. In north america, the same process is at work, whites who lost the will to live/reproduce, are getting replaced by christian latinos from south america. In russia, atheist whites not reproducing are getting replaced by chinese and muslims at their borders. In australia, whites are getting replaced by asians, chinese and koreans.

The lifeless, old depressed white race is disapearing after it abandonned spirituality or more precisely, outgrew it. Some will survive joining the newcommers -if you cant beat them- who have nothing to lose, the revengeful barbarians who waited patiently for their finest hour; they ll live in our territories benefiting from everything we left behind, technologically speaking. But who knows, maybe they ll too start reading the aforementionned authors and will know the same fate as the white man, later.

There is one thing that never, ever changed; we re animals fighting each others to death using everything we have, physical or mental weapons, to get access to the best resources and partners of reproduction, to access to power. Everyone wants to dominate instead of being dominated, because that's probably the best way to go through this cruel joke known as life nobody ever chose to be spawned into in the first place.

This is what old people know , the conclusions they came to, and never tell younger ones, and when they do they re quickly dismissed,categorized as negative and "mentally ill". They re put into places where they re sedated until they finally pass away. Sometimes younger people come to the same conclusions as old ones , quicker. They become a danger to society and they either communicate their thoughts thru a sublimating process writings books etc, making money out of it, or thru violence when they can't express themselves, which lead them to being put in prison or mental institutes where...they re sedated until they pass away. Loving life, is loving to play a shady game where everyone pretend to be what they arent, a game of deception and constant lying. But we all die in the end, some just die faster than others and it's completely random. There is no meaning to life other than the wrong, delusional one we create manipulating words in our heads.

Holy going off on a fucking tangent


Uberman's got this world view where everyone is a pea-brained  automaton and lock step along with every single thing they are told

Man created religion to give meaning to life?  really,

I NEVER think about religion, i could give a fuck what anyone believes, atheist, Mormon.i don't care..and my life has meaning

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Holy going off on a fucking tangent


Uberman's got this world view where everyone is a pea-brained  automaton and lock step along with every single thing they are told

Man created religion to give meaning to life?  really,

I NEVER think about religion, i could give a fuck what anyone believes, atheist, Mormon.i don't care..and my life has meaning
I'll agree with you on this.


I haven't read more than a paragraph of his posts, since


sons and fathers posts became the feel good hit of the summer, some years ago.

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Holy going off on a fucking tangent


Uberman's got this world view where everyone is a pea-brained  automaton and lock step along with every single thing they are told

Man created religion to give meaning to life?  really,

I NEVER think about religion, i could give a fuck what anyone believes, atheist, Mormon.i don't care..and my life has meaning
You believe in a system of values that have been embeded in your brain both genetically and mostly learnt - acquired-; what you believe in is the sum of the things you ve been randomly exposed to since you re born. All these words, meanings, sentences you listened to, read... The earlier ones being the most important ; what your parents say of you and others, of life in general. What is good, what is wrong, fifty shades of grey... It mostly all depend of what you ve been told in your childhood. But it was all fake. There is no good or evil per se, there s just what allow one, or a group, to survive, and what hinder it; there are just animals attempting to dominate each others for resources -which are limited- and the strongest, the winners, write history and what is "right". Survivors decide what is right. These animals dont choose to be spawned into existence, nor do they choose the conditionnings and beliefs they ll follow for the rest of their lives.

Then as you age, you slowly understand absolutely all of this was only "partially" "true", and that the sum of all these partial truths, the ultimate truth, is that you re just an animal who spent his existence doing his best to kill with what he randomly had, instead of being killed.

Then mind, memory, start to deteriorate...

Look at people around you, everywhere; look behind their eyes, look in their brains; they re calculating how to dominate instead of being dominated every single second that passes. That's what animals brains are for; observe, adapt, survive until you cant anymore. Brains are designed to insure the survival of the bodies that contain them. Nothing more. And of course, every single life form is designed to "believe" his survival, or the survival of the ones he needs to survive, is more important than the survival of those who think...differently.


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You believe in a system of values that have been embeded in your brain both genetically and mostly learnt - acquired-; what you believe in is the sum of the things you ve been randomly exposed to since you re born. All these words, meanings, sentences you listened to, read... The earlier ones being the most important ; what your parents say of you and others, of life in general. What is good, what is wrong, fifty shades of grey... It mostly all depend of what you ve been told in your childhood. But it was all fake. There is no good or evil per se, there s just what allow one, or a group, to survive, and what hinder it; there are just animals attempting to dominate each others for resources -which are limited- and the strongest, the winners, write history and what is "right". Survivors decide what is right.

Then as you age, you slowly understand absolutely all of this was only "partially" "true", and that the sum of all these partial truths, the ultimate truth, is that you re just an animal who spent his existence doing his best to kill with what he randomly had, instead of being killed.

Then mind, memory, start to deteriorate...

Look at people around you, everywhere; look behind their eyes, look in their brains; they re calculating how to dominate instead of being dominated every single second that passes. That's what animals brains are for; observe, adapt, survive until you cant anymore. Brains are designed to insure the survival of the bodies that contain them.


As I said I won't read anythign you post, if its in paragraph form, but you've been going on the same tangent for like 8 or 9 years now.

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As I said I won't read anythign you post, if its in paragraph form, but you've been going on the same tangent for like 8 or 9 years now.

And ?

BTW how can you tell if you dont read it?



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And ?

BTW how can you tell if you dont read it?



by what groink posted, I will read the first sentence or so.


"You believe in a system of values  "

I got that far, when I realized I knew where it was heading.