For the love of God and all that's holy. OK Let me try again. The pics that I posted about Doug's physique as pertaining to his muscle size came from his website and were dated I believe from 2009? Never heard of the guy before this. Anyway I still stand by the fact that I think this level of muscularity in those photos is attainable without drugs. This guy is small here, in fact very small but pretty ripped which obviously gives quite the illusion. From what I have just seen of his most recent show I would NOT say the same. Hope this clears things up.