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Re: IFBB Medical Insurance NOT for free!
« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2006, 05:34:21 PM »
lighten up on bob chick.  he's a new yorker that can be blunt and brutally honest.  that's just him.  dont take it personally.
thats what im saying, he's not fake, he gives you the real deal, the straight dope, take it or leave it!
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« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2006, 08:37:18 PM »
Chick, you are something of a joke to me.  Let me tell you, that weight has no issue whatsoever in the cost of my insurance here.  Are you that fucking stupid from all the roids and years of losing you had.  That was the cost to keep my insurance I had with Gold's Gym after I left and wanted to keep it going.  Something they call COBRA here.  The price had no bearing on my weight.  It was the EXACT amount Gold's Gym was paying for me and every other employee they had.  And, for my health like I said I'll match my bloodwork and internal organs with your steroid-abused piece of shit body anyday.  And to think my fat is stronger than your muscle.  Amazing how that works.
Believe me, you are a ROID abuser.  You would be a little boy without them.  That is a fact.  Your life span isn't even close to mine.  My condition is 100% reversable.  Yours is NOT.  You are fucked for the rest of your life.  You have to live with that I don't.
You better pray to god everyday that something unexpected doesn't happen to your body like it did mine.  Cause you are old and your internal organs would not last the trauma I went through.   You're a pro bodybuilder (one that doesn't even compete) get over it.  Better get that degree of yours out of the closet, you are going to need it.
You say I hate BB.  You are wrong.  Your so-called title is just that, just a title.  It carries as much weight as being a janitor at a high school.  You are a pawn to the IFBB not a messiah.
I have dumped thousands of hours into doing shows and have spent 10's of thousands of dollars promoting BB here.  To this day my show was still the biggest no matter how fucked up the attendance was.  I gave out the best awards and treated every BB with huge respect.  They had the warmup room catered and every competitor got free stuff.  The pros that came were treated great to.  How many shows bring the pros in days early so they can have fun in Hawaii.  Take them on tours, take them deep sea fishing etc.  I lost $90,000 on the first show but still decided to do another.  I did as much as I could for BB here to only get backstabbed. 
Don't try to debate me you'll only embarrass yourself.  I am not a BB and have never said anything close to it.  Most everyone knows the problem I had.  I'm not bitter it's what happened.  I am getting over it and getting a whole lot better.  Like I said I will be back 100% cause I have the strong and healthy internal organs and the will power.  You though have no recourse.  You are fucked for the rest of your life cause you chose to be stupid.  That was your choice and an ignorant one at that.
i could write more but I am dizzy from typing as much as I did.  So be sure towrite back and show the people how a real professional BB acts.  Cause you are the rep of them all. 
Oh and nice way to shift the debate about me instead of answering the questions people have been asking you here.  YOu are good at avoiding the issue at hand but not that good.  I liked you in Dodgeball though.

Oh and Double XL, well everyone knows you aren't worth repsonding too.  Are you and Chick roomates

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« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2006, 08:46:19 PM »
ANd by the way.  You could have avoided all the strees to yourself if you would have just had the answer to the questions everyone has been asking.  You are the one who came on here to brag about getting all the IFBB pros insurance.  Yet you had no answers.  If you can't handle the heat you need to find another cause to support. 

Why did you have to come on here and tell everyone you got them insurance yet you don't want to talk about.  The thing would have been to shut your big mouth and keep it to yourself.  But youhad to come on here and show everyone you are kicking ass as the rep.  Well some call you out and wanted answer and you panicked and freaked out.  Then you attack my fat ass cause I kept asking.  Son, this position is not for you.  Give it up to someone who can handle it without breaking apart.  Hope this advice helps.

Remember I am just a guy who comes on here that has nothing to do with the sport.  I can take it or leave it.  I have other things.  YOU DON'T.  You are stuck in this.  Wouldn't trade places with you for anything.

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« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2006, 09:12:52 PM »
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No offence, but I don't need anything to be "accepted" by nameless, faceless people posting on a message board...it doesn't involve any of you except IFBB pro's...PERIOD!

Take whatever you want at face value...it doesn't change the fact that Health ins. is now available to Pro's for the first time in history...thats the important part.


I just read this.  This is the perfect example why you shouldn't be the atheltes rep or really anything involved with others in BB.  You need to sit down and figure out who pays your bills with the money you make from your sponsorsl  DO you think the people on here (and I heard something like 30,000 a day) aren't helping you with what little career you have.  Do you think whatever company sponsors you would give you dime if they weren't selling to these nameless and faceless people. 

You were stupid enough to post on here your acheivement so that immediately makes it open for discussion.  Son, you really need to get a reality check.  Now who is doing a great job of being an asshole.  Honestly resign before you blow another gasket.  You have set unprecedented history with getting every IFBB pro BB medical insurance not worth much more the paper it is written on but hey at least you tried.  I still want to know who it is so I can get some.  Can't I just say I am a pro BB.  I have a huge gut I am half way there.  Please Chic, be my messiah

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« Reply #104 on: February 23, 2006, 09:17:16 PM »
note to self... don't piss off onlyme

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« Reply #105 on: February 23, 2006, 09:29:04 PM »
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thats what im saying, he's not fake, he gives you the real deal, the straight dope, take it or leave it!

There is a difference from straight dope and being a dope.  And the real deal would be if you are coming onto the #1 internet board in BB and bragging to everyone you got insurance for the pro BB's something that has never been done in the history of BB, then be prepared to explain some issues and concerns or keep your mouth shut.

And I not mad at all.  Just a little frustrated at a guy who wants to ignore what the thread is all about and come after me and call me fat and that is why I can't insurance while all along he ignores what the issue is here.  My fatness has no bearing on the subject just his way of trying to get out of answering the questions posted on here to him.  No big deal to me.  Like I said before my problem is 100% reversable and it's heading in that direction.  His condition(s) are not.  He is fucked not me.

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« Reply #106 on: February 23, 2006, 10:01:13 PM »
Shit Keith don't have a heart attack over this.  I see both sides.  Keith is defending himself, pretty good.  And Chic is, well can't answer him or others directly cause he either has no answers or is afraid.  I see his side too.  EIther way, I don't see this insurance being a solid choice either.  Chic, can you specifically say what is covered.  Is it full coverage with drugs and dental.  And since insurance companies do ask for past history and if there is a history ofdrug use and such, what do the pros say to that.  If they lie then their policies will not be effective and can be grounds for insurance fraud.  And if they say yes and with the past history of gear use won't that put the price higher.  Certainly you can answer these without having a shit fit.
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« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2006, 10:20:04 PM »
Shit Keith don't have a heart attack over this.  I see both sides.  Keith is defending himself, pretty good.  And Chic is, well can't answer him or others directly cause he either has no answers or is afraid.  I see his side too.  EIther way, I don't see this insurance being a solid choice either.  Chic, can you specifically say what is covered.  Is it full coverage with drugs and dental.  And since insurance companies do ask for past history and if there is a history ofdrug use and such, what do the pros say to that.  If they lie then their policies will not be effective and can be grounds for insurance fraud.  And if they say yes and with the past history of gear use won't that put the price higher.  Certainly you can answer these without having a shit fit.
Obviously they have to lie to get covered but how many people in this world can say they've never taken any drugs?

I guess if a guy gets sick then we'll see what happens then...

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« Reply #108 on: February 23, 2006, 10:38:59 PM »
Well I meant more directly steroids. With so many conditions doctors are blaming on steroids, what happens if something happens that was caused by steroids (the doctors say so).  Then basically the insurance is worthless. 
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« Reply #109 on: February 23, 2006, 11:26:43 PM »
Well I meant more directly steroids. With so many conditions doctors are blaming on steroids, what happens if something happens that was caused by steroids (the doctors say so).  Then basically the insurance is worthless. 
If the person in question hasn't admitted to steroids on their insurance form then I guess they'd have to test for them if they suspected they were using. Whether they'd be allowed to is another story I guess...

It's kinda like a lot of things in life... you're better off in this situation to simply lie about it and hope you fall through the cracks.

I bet there are plenty of alcoholics out there who have no problem getting health insurance since it's so hard to prove.

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« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2006, 05:38:39 AM »
i feel sad for onlyme and bob chick you should provide the name to the dude, it isnt like he asked to borrow 5 dollars :)

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« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2006, 07:20:41 AM »
If the person in question hasn't admitted to steroids on their insurance form then I guess they'd have to test for them if they suspected they were using. Whether they'd be allowed to is another story I guess...
It's kinda like a lot of things in life... you're better off in this situation to simply lie about it and hope you fall through the cracks.
I bet there are plenty of alcoholics out there who have no problem getting health insurance since it's so hard to prove.
First of all, health insurance has nothing to do with health, per se, and everything to do with BUSINESS. Business is all about making MONEY.

Insurance is nothing more than a legal form of gambling. They bet that you won't need their money--and you bet that you will.

Who on god's earth would make a bet that a group of people who use steroids and other drugs will NOT need their money eventually? No insurance company would ever do that. That's a stupid bet. Why would they want to do that? And, for $135 dollars a month?

Hmmmm...let's see. Flex Wheeler's knidney transplant.....hundred of thousand dollars at least. Mike Materazzo's heart problems....hundred of thousand dollars at least....Don Long's kidneys....hundred of thousand dollars at least.

That takes care of years worth of $135 policies rights there.

This is stupid. They can pay all these premiums all they want but the claims won't be accepted.

And even if they accept the first one, the plan will collapse afterwards.

Check the fine print of your life insurance policies gentlemen. There are so many conditions when you die you'll be shocked. You know those term life insurance policies on Tv for something like $35 a month for a 50 year old?
If you really saw the conditions, it would read something like has to die in the car during an accident--and not on the way to the hospital. A limb can be ripped off.etc. I'm sort of kinding, but not that much.

If you were apply for a 2 million dollar term life insurance policy, the insurance company would have a doctor at your doorstep before they accept you taking your blood pressure, weight, blood work, ect.

It's a business, gentlemen.

What insurance company is going to accept a group of admitted or non-admitted drug user where there sport almost requires them to use illegal drugs.

Big dollars pro althletes have mosterous insurance policies and except to pay their own health cost (or their teams). But, of course they can afford it in most cases.

If they can't, they are at the county hospital with all the other people who the state wil take care of.
I think this is irresponsible for a rep to lead BB down this worthless path. Just pay the premiums and see what happens? OK, if you want to throw away your $135 a month. Remeber that movie with Ben Stiller and Jennifer Aniston "Along Came Polly"? Ben Stiller's job was to calculate the risk--and they would insurance that thrill seeking businessman? What would he be calculating with pro bodybuilders?


I'm sure this "group" that is being formed is NOT going to say they are professional bodybuilders. Probably some international group of health and fitness advisors or something that will be not so descriptive.

And, I'm sure Chic doesn't want the company alerted to the risk they are undertaking. That's a smart move on Chic's part.

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Re: IFBB Medical Insurance NOT for free!
« Reply #112 on: February 24, 2006, 07:32:11 AM »
I'm sure this "group" that is being formed is NOT going to say they are professional bodybuilders. Probably some international group of health and fitness advisors or something that will be not so descriptive. And, I'm sure Chic doesn't want the company alerted to the risk they are undertaking. That's a smart move on Chic's part.

Yes.  And as we all know, announcing something on Getbig puts your claim out to the scrutiny of others.  If something's too good to be true, it is called out for it.   If your claim stands up, you will get respect and business as a result.  it's Darwinism at its finest.   Bob Chick wanted props- to demonstrate to the world that he's getting stuff done as athletes rep- and to keep his job safe from the steady murmur that is known only as the Milos Movement.



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« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2006, 08:48:12 AM »
Health insurance for Ifbb "athletes" ???? Palease. It'a be better for a company to insure professional bull riders who like to B.A.S.E jump in their spare time.

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« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2006, 08:50:13 AM »
professional bull riders who .

And I hear if anyone knows how to ride a slab of beef, it's you...

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« Reply #115 on: February 24, 2006, 08:54:35 AM »
And I hear if anyone knows how to ride a slab of beef, it's you...
? Coming fom a guy who spends so much time on a bodybuilding site??

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« Reply #116 on: February 24, 2006, 08:57:39 AM »
? Coming fom a guy who spends so much time on a bodybuilding site??

The Romano Factor--
Showdown!

I recently conducted a telephone interview with a man I have grown to despise over the last year. This man has insulted the sport we love and has personally been the bane of my existence everytime I turn on my computer. He is none other than internet troll and general pain-in-the-ass, "240 or Bust". You see, "240" emailed me with an insulting website he had made, and I returned his effort with a Romano challenge- Put up or shut up! He agreed to do the interview, and although magazine space didn't allow it to be printed, it made the Muscular Development website. Enjoy the showdown!

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« Reply #117 on: February 24, 2006, 09:02:37 AM »
Sure, it's like looking at a train wreck, but doesn't it get boring after a while?

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« Reply #118 on: February 24, 2006, 09:46:23 AM »
BigD, please don't feel sorry for me.  I am more than fine.  This affects me in no way.  It is the pro BB's you should feel sorry for.

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I'm sure this "group" that is being formed is NOT going to say they are professional bodybuilders. Probably some international group of health and fitness advisors or something that will be not so descriptive.


This explains how the BB's are getting the insurance.  Like Chic said on the first page, they are getting this through the Personal Trainers Association.  They are a group of personal trainers.  People who are supposed to be very healthy and fit.  This way the insurance company will be under the impression they are part of this group.  Very good job.  A little I mean allot of deceit here but het if it makes Chic look good why not.  More power to him.

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« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2006, 11:36:53 AM »
BigD, please don't feel sorry for me.  I am more than fine.  This affects me in no way.  It is the pro BB's you should feel sorry for.
This explains how the BB's are getting the insurance.  Like Chic said on the first page, they are getting this through the Personal Trainers Association.  They are a group of personal trainers.  People who are supposed to be very healthy and fit.  This way the insurance company will be under the impression they are part of this group.  Very good job.  A little I mean allot of deceit here but het if it makes Chic look good why not.  More power to him.

Before Chic blasts you onlyme, it was Insider Z that wrote it was a Personal Trainers thing.

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« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2006, 12:40:14 PM »
Thanks MW, Okay Chic ignore that part.  But you didn't say it wasn't that group.  Is it.  Okay now go and starting blasting.  By the way do you get really red when you type all mean and stuff.  Sorry, I am out at my pool very relaxed.  Super hot and clear today.  Had to get some sun.  I always say, I'd rather be fat and tan than fat and white.  Makes the insurance lower

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« Reply #121 on: February 24, 2006, 02:32:49 PM »
InsiderZ-
Some "insider" you are...you got just about everything WRONG. do us all a favor and don't post anymore...
No one ever said it was "free" or provided by the iFBB...
secondly,  it's not $600 to join, it's $99...with an annual fee of $99
The monthly premium is at a GROUP rate...substancially less than regular coverage. How much less? Well, my premium went from $550/ month with Blue Cross to $135/ month for virtually the same coverage. I also had 4 packages to choose from...no one stuck with one coverage.
I have FULL coverage...same as I had with Blue Cross. The only difference in my coverage was that they don't provide Dental,but do provide a seperate coverage you can purchase which was about $55/ year or so..
Any more keen obsevations?

Chic, well played on your behalf and congrats for getting this needed coverage for the IFBB pros, well done!   Howard
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« Reply #122 on: February 24, 2006, 02:38:34 PM »
What doesn't add up? The plan is already in place...as I've stated a few times already....I'm "formally" presenting it to the pro's at the meeting coming up. The details have already been in place, we don't have to wait for a certain amount of people to sign up...there are details that have been put together behind the scenes when putting the plan into action.
Why wouldn't most take advantage of the coverage? They prefer paying more? Having NO insurance is smarter?
Bottom line is..it really doesn't concern any of you that arent pro bodybuilders does it?


THen stop posting this shit on a gossip board then.

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« Reply #123 on: February 24, 2006, 03:59:23 PM »
onlyme's having a conversation with himself now!

I don't really see the reason to get all stressed out over it Onlyme.....it's really not that big of a deal.  So, he won't tell you the carrier, there are bigger problems in life. 

Pro bbers have a chance at health insurance through their professional sport.  This is a move in a good direction.  I'm sure the insurance wasn't put together with a "hide from Keith" motive. 

I'm glad to hear that they have this option. 
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« Reply #124 on: February 24, 2006, 04:12:42 PM »
I wish I lived in Howie's utopian world where everything is roses and everybody loves each other...

I really do

Chic, well played on your behalf and congrats for getting this needed coverage for the IFBB pros, well done!   Howard