Christ

[James28]

Given the absolute nature of your statements I can only assume that you've humbled yourself and surrendered to the will of God according to his terms.  That you genuinely desired to enter into a relationship with God, that you admitted your sin, you accepted Christ as Savior and asked that he reveal himself to you and you experienced absolutely nothing, correct?

Tell me more about that experience.  I'm interested to understand your perspective.....I've actually never heard of someone experiencing that before.

Did this god thing 'reveal' himself to you?

What does he look like?

Better yet, what drugs were you on?

[Erik C]

You and I have discussed this before also:

Quote from Man of Steel: "the body of believers sharing their divine experiences is not aligned with scientific evidence, but that doesn't negate it as evidence." You're wrong. Delusions are not evidence of anything, except mental illness. They are not scientific evidence, and would even be dismissed as hearsay in a court of law.

[muscleman-2013]

I can feel Erik C reaching out in this thread.  It is obvious he is hungry for something and hurting so bad inside.  It breaks my heart to see confused kids like Eric who are BEGGING to be loved.

[Man of Steel]

Quote from Man of Steel: "the body of believers sharing their divine experiences is not aligned with scientific evidence, but that doesn't negate it as evidence." You're wrong. Delusions are not evidence of anything, except mental illness. They are not scientific evidence, and would even be dismissed as hearsay in a court of law.

Trust me 99.8% of this board doesn't care about my posts about "religion" LOL.  

Had I not responded to this thread it would've gone into G&O oblivion by morning....now it'll just take a few hours longer to do so.

Even still, the folks that do have minimal interest don't have enough collective fingers and toes to count the times I've had these exact and similar discussions.

Thanks for today's religious trolling....it's been fun!

[James28]

At least Uberman snapped out of his religious delusions and admitted it was a load of shit all along. Maybe 2015 would be the MOS does the same and realise his prayers are just whispers into the wind.

[Man of Steel]

At least Uberman snapped out of his religious delusions and admitted it was a load of shit all along. Maybe 2015 would be the MOS does the same and realise his prayers are just whispers into the wind.

The only thing I'll say about uberman is that he made his choice to live for the all the world has to offer him. 

Me, I already lived for the world and then I was changed by Jesus Christ.   

I don't care how many ridicule me for my faith.  All I care about is others coming to Christ. 

Most won't.  Some will.  But I can assure you I'll exit this life living for Christ.

[Erik C]

The only thing I'll say about uberman is that he made his choice to live for the all the world has to offer him. 

Me, I already lived for the world and then I was changed by Jesus Christ.   

I don't care how many ridicule me for my faith.  All I care about is others coming to Christ. 

Most won't.  Some will.  But I can assure you I'll exit this life living for Christ.

All you care about is spreading ignorant superstitions? Misery loves company.

[The Ugly]

All you care about is spreading ignorant superstitions? Misery loves company.

Dude never attacked you, did he? Why the insults?

[BigRo]

insulting is the main tactic used by types like Erika, very mature and rational 

[Erik C]

For those concerned. MOS insulted my intelligence. There is no god. Those who say otherwise, should present proof of this god. They can't, and don't, therefore they shouldn't be allowed to spread their lies. Think of all the children who are held back intellectually, by religious beliefs. Consider how much human progress has been held back by religion.

[Parker]

Dude never attacked you, did he? Why the insults?

You quoted his reason why. Misery loves company. A miserable person attacks those that are opposite of themselves. Spreading their misery.

[Natural Man]

there are only strong animals preying on weaker animals in this world, nothing else. You can be spiritual and moral without being religious. Spirituality and morality are useful to keep the animal society in check so it doesnt destroy itself.

[BigRo]

For those concerned. MOS insulted my intelligence. There is no god. Those who say otherwise, should present proof of this god. They can't, and don't, therefore they shouldn't be allowed to spread their lies. Think of all the children who are held back intellectually, by religious beliefs. Consider how much human progress has been held back by religion.

You make a statement that there is no God so can you prove that? Of course you don't have to because the burden of proof is on those who believe in God  

If you are not willing to step on the path and use the instrumentation that leads to divine perception you should just stay quite on such matters.

Have you ever investigated your sense of self, how your sense of I arises and where it comes from? No, you conclude it comes from your brains functioning.

The proof of God lays in the experience of God.

I am not even attached to the word God, call it what you like!

[Erik C]

You make a statement that there is no God so can you prove that? Of course you don't have to because the burden of proof is on those who believe in God  

If you are not willing to step on the path and use the instrumentation that leads to divine perception you should just stay quite on such matters.

Have you ever investigated your sense of self, how your sense of I arises and where it comes from? No, you conclude it comes from your brains functioning.

The proof of God lays in the experience of God.

I am not even attached to the word God, call it what you like!

Right, it is the clueless believers who must present evidence. It is scientifically impossible to prove a negative.

I have personally investigated all things concerned with my sense of self. I've never needed to go to ignorant superstitions for an "answer." Suggest your read: THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS, IN THE BREAK DOWN OF THE BICAMERAL MIND by Julian Jaynes. If you are really looking for answers.

[King Shizzo]

The only thing I'll say about uberman is that he made his choice to live for the all the world has to offer him. 

Me, I already lived for the world and then I was changed by Jesus Christ.   

I don't care how many ridicule me for my faith.  All I care about is others coming to Christ. 

Most won't.  Some will.  But I can assure you I'll exit this life living for Christ.

Meltdown.

[Fortress]

I know that there is no god. The concept is stupid, and is designed to appeal to the simple minded. It's a way to control masses of people for the benefit of their masters. It's absurd, and sad, that billions of people waste their lives groveling in fear and pray to some kind of fiction.

Perfectly stated.

Think about how utterly hilarious it is to imagine all the 'tards praying and dedicating themselves to a fictional character. 

[Fortress]

Many have experienced the risen Christ in their lives.

It's called a deep and delusional state, MoS.

Fuck me running.

2014 and we still have folks fabricating such nonsense in their lives.

 

[Fortress]

Given the absolute nature of your statements I can only assume that you've humbled yourself and surrendered to the will of God according to his terms.  That you genuinely desired to enter into a relationship with God, that you admitted your sin, you accepted Christ as Savior and asked that he reveal himself to you and you experienced absolutely nothing, correct?

I did. I was born a Catholic ... went to Sunday school, church ... the whole deal. Then when I was in my late-20s I did what you state above. I figured I'd reinvest in my faith and went at it with open heart and conviction.

I even "felt" the presence of god at various stages of my delusion. At the time it felt entirely real. In hindsight, my subconscious mind allowed me to believe all this shite because I wanted to.   

Then after a couple of years, my intellect and strength of reason wouldn't let me continue such a farce.

With each passing year since, my awakening has been increasingly impacting, and for me to consider that I actually believed such utter nonsense is troubling.

Religion is horrific and a bane to all human existence.

As another says, it's a form of mental illness.

My mental health is VASTLY improved since allowing truth and reason to infiltrate my life. 

 

[BigRo]

Right, it is the clueless believers who must present evidence. It is scientifically impossible to prove a negative.

I have personally investigated all things concerned with my sense of self. I've never needed to go to ignorant superstitions for an "answer." Suggest your read: THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS, IN THE BREAK DOWN OF THE BICAMERAL MIND by Julian Jaynes. If you are really looking for answers.

Experiencing the ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS is what is needed not reading about it.

[Fortress]

For those concerned. MOS insulted my intelligence. There is no god. Those who say otherwise, should present proof of this god. They can't, and don't, therefore they shouldn't be allowed to spread their lies. Think of all the children who are held back intellectually, by religious beliefs. Consider how much human progress has been held back by religion.

To raise a child in an environment where "god" is presented as a real thing is abuse, pure and simple.

It's brainwashing.

 

[Powerlift66]

I did. I was born a Catholic ... went to Sunday school, church ... the whole deal. Then when I was in my late-20s I did what you state above. I figured I'd reinvest in my faith and went at it with open heart and conviction.

I even "felt" the presence of god at various stages of my delusion. At the time it felt entirely real. In hindsight, my subconscious mind allowed me to believe all this shite because I wanted to.   

Then after a couple of years, my intellect and strength of reason wouldn't let me continue such a farce.

With each passing year since, my awakening has been increasingly impacting, and for me to consider that I actually believed such utter nonsense is troubling.

Religion is horrific and a bane to all human existence.

As another says, it's a form of mental illness.

My mental health is VASTLY improved since allowing truth and reason to infiltrate my life. 

This ^^^

People following a book about a magic man in the sky, mental... I dont believe in cults, exactly what all religions are.

[BigRo]

To raise a child in an environment where "god" is presented as a real thing is abuse, pure and simple.

It's brainwashing.

 

So you tell your kids that Santa is a hoax I hope (if you have kids)

[Fortress]

So you tell your kids that Santa is a hoax I hope (if you have kids)

No kids.

[King Shizzo]

Do any of you think that religion is dying out in the age of information?

Do you think only a fraction of civilized people will believe in the next 100-200 years?

[Teutonic Knight]

Christmas day,7 am & still no Jeezeus