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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2015, 02:32:19 PM »
The methods on the show seem extreme, unnecessarily so.




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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2015, 02:38:22 PM »




Classic case of misunderstood unhappiness.  They thought loosing weight and being thin would make them feel a better about themselves.  But if your mind says you still suck now you've got problems.

They don't realize they've always been unhappy with their self.*


*I'm sure this is an uberman paraphrase

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2015, 02:47:18 PM »




Doesn't matter.  As Dave D said, it's easy to see why they do it given the context of the the show.  But it's dangerous and doesn't necesarily set them up for success going forward.

If you think that the methods employed are healthy and safe, run with that.
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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2015, 03:00:57 PM »
Zero fucks given for these ham beasts (no offense)

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2015, 03:02:49 PM »
Doesn't matter.  As Dave D said, it's easy to see why they do it given the context of the the show.  But it's dangerous and doesn't necesarily set them up for success going forward.

If you think that the methods employed are healthy and safe, run with that.


For a woman to be considered obese her bodyfat must be 39% or greater. If you think that is "healthy and safe", run with that.

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Dr. Robert Huizenga defended the show's approach, saying that although slow weight loss can be effective, it rarely resolves patients' obesity-related health problems entirely before patients abandon it and weight regain ensues. He added that slow weight loss routinely results in muscle loss, leaving patients with a higher proportion of fat-to-lean muscle tissue: "Loser" participants, by contrast, changed their body composition in the opposite direction, ending with a higher ratio of lean muscle and bone to fat than they had had at the outset. Participants' average percentage of body fat decreased from a starting level of 48.9% to 30.4% at week 24.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/25/news/la-heb-biggest-loser-bariatric-20120525 

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2015, 03:23:43 PM »

For a woman to be considered obese her bodyfat must be 39% or greater. If you think that is "healthy and safe", run with that.



Nice strawman, but of course that's not what I said. Try to stay within the context of the argument.

I didn't saw keeping her current weight was healthy.  I said the methods to lose the weight, mostly due to the context of the show, are dangerous, unhealthy, and don't set up for success.
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2015, 03:29:07 PM »
Nice strawman, but of course that's not what I said. Try to stay within the context of the argument.

I didn't saw keeping her current weight was healthy.  I said the methods to lose the weight, mostly due to the context of the show, are dangerous, unhealthy, and don't set up for success.

Nope, not strawman. Coach and you think the show's methods are dangerous. If the people on the show did not appear on "Biggest Loser", they would remain in a physical state that is at least as (or more than) dangerous as the "unhealthy" experience they had on the show. You have to look not just at the show, but also at the next best alternative.

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2015, 03:40:17 PM »
First we should feel sorry that these participants ate themselves into becoming fucking land manatees, and now we should feel sorry for them having lost weight, albeit in a controversial way?

Fucking kidding me? No sympathy for people like this, they should've realized a long time ago that they were fucking themselves up by continuing to eat for whatever reason. It's like saying we should feel sorry for bodybuilders in thongs that have to be put on dialysis by their 30's due to steroid use.



Also, great fucking friend she had, 265lbs was the mark she thought to herself; "Oh wow, my friend is getting fat!"????
Should both be off'd.
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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2015, 04:05:57 PM »
Nope, not strawman. Coach and you think the show's methods are dangerous. If the people on the show did not appear on "Biggest Loser", they would remain in a physical state that is at least as (or more than) dangerous as the "unhealthy" experience they had on the show. You have to look not just at the show, but also at the next best alternative.

So you defend your strawman with....another strawman.

Once again, you've changed the discussion.   I was not commenting on whether or not the results outweighed the methods.  Just that the methods are dangerous.
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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2015, 06:44:41 PM »
Holy shit. Just because she lost weight doesn't mean she did it the right way. Jesus, she developed health problems from it.

Your believe what those idiots say?

"My hair is still falling out."
"I had short term memory loss."
"My knees sound like Saran wrap."


They get fat again after the show and because they can't take responsibility for anything (why they're fat in ther first place) and want to blame someone else like they have their whole life



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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2015, 06:46:52 PM »
I give up. There's no intelligent life on this planet. (Banging head on table)

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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2015, 06:48:38 PM »
Did any of you two read the article?

I read it.

These people(clinically obese who do the show) want fast rapid weight loss at any cost!

They get what they want, then complain.

If they exercised & ate correctly it would take them 3 x as long to lose the weight, but it would be healthy and sustainable.... but they'd still complain about it taking too long and would drop out.


They are a lot like liberals , particularly blacks.... they are professional victims. It's never their fault and when they get what they want they still complain complain complain.

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2015, 06:49:46 PM »
I give up. There's no intelligent life on this planet. (Banging head on table)



Then go pitch a show where contestants eat healthy and perform moderate exercise while losing their excess weight over a period of 3-5 years.
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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2015, 06:58:26 PM »


Then go pitch a show where contestants eat healthy and perform moderate exercise while losing their excess weight over a period of 3-5 years.

Haha haha riveting television.

I say combine shows like Biggest Loser and Survivor. Biggest Survivor.  Imagine the culture shock the fatties experience on a deserted island, the social interaction as they build shelter and hunt for food on a limited calorie diet. I'd imagine at some point they attempt to eat the weakest participant.

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2015, 08:10:06 PM »
I read it but GBrs would sooner see the overweight put to death than show a moment of concern for them....GBrs would agree with the article in that their physical issues are punishment for being fat.

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« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2015, 08:52:36 PM »
I read it but GBrs would sooner see the overweight put to death than show a moment of concern for them....GBrs would agree with the article in that their physical issues are punishment for being fat.

I think the fact that THE BIGGEST LOSER is GAME SHOW is being lost here.

If a grand prize winner of WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE complained that the show offered no other financial advice then don't spend it all in one spot, after cutting the check then said the money wasn't enough to last a lifetime;  we'd blame them for their poor choices.

If the final match up from the BACHELOR complained that the shows producers pushed them into the marriage and no one told them how hard marriage was, especially because they were looking for true love and happiness,  we'd mock them incessantly.

If a contestant on THE PRICE IS RIGHT objected because the game show wasn't playing by JEOPARDY'S rules we'd think they were morons.

So if a GAME SHOW, about extreme weight loss was called THE BIGGEST LOSER, were to treat the CONTESTANTS poorly and they used drastic and unethical tactics we should respond how?

I get some people have weight issues they want and need help with. Life and genetics are unfair and we all can't eat and exercise the same way. I'm not talking about punishing obesity and I don't think most commenting here are.

I'm holding these contestants responsible for their decisions.  If the show was that dangerous why didn't they get help? I'm sure they were under an immense amount of pressure and stress to comply but what did they think they were signing up for, the world's healthiest weight loss challenge?




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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2015, 10:17:00 PM »
Read the fucking article. She was a lot healthier obese than what she is now thanks to these idiot producers.

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2015, 10:46:29 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2015, 11:28:58 PM »
Read the fucking article. She was a lot healthier obese than what she is now thanks to these idiot producers.

I have and just read it again,  where exactly does it say she was healthier obese?

I understand that's what the article is insinuating based on her health problems she experienced while/since doing the show, but they never disclose her health prior to being accepted,  other then her height and weight (she says, among several issues, her thyroid is messed up now because of the weight loss but it probably already was not functioning properly not doubt playing a roll with her  obesity).

The article states the amount of money they make off the show from their products and supplements, which we at getbig know those products are a scam.

The article also states that people generally gain back half the weight they originally lost on most life style changes.

  Im not condoning the methods used. They are drastic and dangerous.

 But I'm not surprised in the least bit that a television show, made for profit and entertainment purposes,  is using these tactics.

What is the issue here, that  a TV game show is using dangerous weight loss practices to exploit contestants for the networks profit?  
This is a surprise to most?
 Or am I missing something?

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2015, 03:45:26 AM »
Just proves that fatties will always whine about something. No doubt she will be back to her land manatee self in no time, talking about how she feels better being a fat lazy slob, and the inevitable: "I'm happy my curves are back".

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« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2015, 04:54:05 AM »
Healthier then a lot of bodybuilders getting ripped for contests for much less money and exposure. Stupid none the less.

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« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2015, 04:57:17 AM »
Lol, got skinny... still not hot.

Should have stayed fat, at least then she was comical to look at.

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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2015, 06:47:18 AM »
yummy :P













Would absolutely destroy this angry whore

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2015, 06:58:27 AM »
Exactly and why would anyone think this would be anything less than extreme?
the contestants on the show are headed for an early grave.
Some may develop health problems from doing it but by staying the course they've shown they do have the drive and discipline to succeed! Whether they take away what they've learnt and continue to maintain a healthy weight is down to them.
you're right That doing it in a less extreme manner, these people will see no visual results and continue on the course of destruction by giving up and getting bigger and bigger and cutting their life expectancy back even more.
i wonder has any of the side effects from extreme weight loss led to life threatening condition or disability?
has anyone died as a result of the extreme methods used? I'd say more Fat people have died as a result of not doing something extreme to counter their situation

I read it.

These people(clinically obese who do the show) want fast rapid weight loss at any cost!

They get what they want, then complain.

If they exercised & ate correctly it would take them 3 x as long to lose the weight, but it would be healthy and sustainable.... but they'd still complain about it taking too long and would drop out.


They are a lot like liberals , particularly blacks.... they are professional victims. It's never their fault and when they get what they want they still complain complain complain.

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Re: Brutal Secrets of The Biggest Loser (worse than CrossFit)
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2015, 10:40:04 AM »
Holy shit. Just because she lost weight doesn't mean she did it the right way. Jesus, she developed health problems from it.

right because she was well on her way to a health problem free life