i seen that too but you have to take into account total upperbody strength overhead pressing with bars and logs,hand strength,bench press,breaking cyr's lateral lifts,running around with an atlas stone on his shoulder,breaking the 56 pound toss record,throwing those kegs into the pickup truck when all the other competitors had to walk each one in and those were strong men he was competing againest geoff capes.also when things were done,todays drugs are much better and stronger.kaz's lifts were done 26 years ago siders is doing that today.you think he would have improved upon kaz's records but he hasn't.to tell you the truth i don;t think we'll see anybody with kaz's upper body strength again.but of all the lifts i seen the one that i seen personally from about 5 feet in a church just blew me away.kaz took a 3/4 inch galvinized steel bolt and bent it into a u with the sides touching.all you seen and heard were three quick grunts and when he opened his hand the thing was bent.