5 million illegals to be made legal. Getbig thoughs

[Las Vegas]

Of course that's how a successful economy works someone has to wirk their way to the top. That dosent mean the elite can't have a larger middle class working for them. Instead of a larger group of unskilled lower class working for them. Th middle class is what runs this countrys economy with consumer spending. What do you think happens when you whip out the middle class abd only have ultra Rich and poor?? You get Mexico. 

That's the plan, dumbshit.

[Competitor 9]

That's the plan, dumbshit.

Lol I know. Kinda the point behind the comparison

[Las Vegas]

Lol I know. Kinda the point behind the comparison

So quit trying to pretend it is "reform".  You're only helping it along.

[Competitor 9]

So quit trying to pretend it is "reform".  You're only helping it along.

I clearly stated it wasn't a reform and he's just making more voters. None of his actions have even hinted at a imagination reform

[Las Vegas]

I clearly stated it wasn't a reform and he's just making more voters. None of his actions have even hinted at a imagination reform

When you say stupid shit like this...

I'm all for immigration reform. The simple fact is we who is be very selective in who we let in. I understand everyone wants in the us. But that's just not possible

You are inviting nothing but problems. Because a motherfcker will step up and tell you that we "need" the people we are letting in. It's that simple.

Obama has done exactly that.

[manuelsonn]

 i dont get it.. all americans (except butchered natives) are imigrants,, why the fuck would they need a imigration law ? anyway its a fucking shithole there, only mexicans are interested in that garbage

[Competitor 9]

When you say stupid shit like this...

You are inviting nothing but problems. Because a motherfcker will step up and tell you that we "need" the people we are letting in. It's that simple.

Obama has done exactly that.

You need people willing to work for lower wages of course. Here's an idea instead of letting immigrants in to take those jobs. You forces the people on welfare to get out and take them instead of them sitting at home. Maybe it will instill what it is to work a day for pay.

 

[Natural Man]

humans are animals, the strongest maintain the weakest alive to benefit from them.

[Competitor 9]

humans are animals, the strongest maintain the weakest alive to benefit from them.

That's social Darwinism the liberals said that dosnt exist and everyone is equal back in the 60's. Said it just promotes racial inquailty and strengthen stereotypes. Not joking that's way it was deemed incorrect

[Las Vegas]

You need people willing to work for lower wages of course.

At the expense of our current problems? Problems that will continue to grow with no end in sight? Because that's exactly what we bought with such a stupid idea.

The problems need to be handled without using immigrants.

 

Here's an idea instead of letting immigrants in to take those jobs. You forces the people on welfare to get out and take them instead of them sitting at home. Maybe it will instill what it is to work a day for pay.

Then that's the idea you need to stand by.  Stick with it, because it makes sense.

[Competitor 9]

At the expense of our current problems? Problems that will continue to grow with no end in sight? Because that's exactly what we bought with such a stupid idea.

 
Then that's the idea you need to stand by.  Stick with it, because it makes sense.

IM not sure what your getting at. People have to work for lower wages. Bring up minimum wages just increased inflation. If their are people willing to work low income jobs for the rest of their life's so be it. Those that want a change do what they need to do to advance themselfs in society.  Don't just let illegals do the shitty jobs because show how you think your to good to do it while you sit at home all day with 3 kids and live off tax payers. Cut down and be more selective on immigration. Stop giving free money out and give people incentives to work. Because if you don't have to do shit there is no reason to go get a job.

[Archer77]

The end results of making millions of poor uneducated and unskilled illegals legal will be an increase in the dependency class. More people on the bottom who consume more in benefits than pay in.   Immigration is problematic in a welfare state.

[Competitor 9]

The end results of making millions of poor uneducated and unskilled illegals legal will be an increase in the dependency class. More people on the bottom who consume more in benefits than pay in.   Immigration is problematic in a welfare state.

100% but if your party's base is those who are the dependency class and usually minorites that's a huge advantage in votes

[Archer77]

100% but if your party's base is those who are the dependency class and usually minorites that's a huge advantage in votes

And that's exactly what's happened.  The more people dependent on government the more power government has. I don't know how anyone can look at the developments in the western nations without concern.  Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I often wonder what exactly the ultimate goal is. Some of the smarter of that bunch must realize the system can't sustain itself.  Are we really seeing the implementation of the Cloward-Piven strategy.

[Las Vegas]

IM not sure what your getting at. People have to work for lower wages. Bring up minimum wages just increased inflation. If their are people willing to work low income jobs for the rest of their life's so be it. Those that want a change do what they need to do to advance themselfs in society.  Don't just let illegals do the shitty jobs because show how you think your to good to do it while you sit at home all day with 3 kids and live off tax payers. Cut down and be more selective on immigration. Stop giving free money out and give people incentives to work. Because if you don't have to do shit there is no reason to go get a job.

You can't have it both ways.

You can't use immigrants as a "solution" when it only makes the problem worse.  You're setting yourself up to bitch about it.

[Competitor 9]

You can't have it both ways.

You can't use immigrants as a "solution" when it only makes the problem worse.  You're setting yourself up to bitch about it.

Are you not understand the context of this conversation? When did I say it was a solution I don't even no what you are talking about. The only thing I've said is that it's needs reform and magicly making 5 million people just adds to the overall problem in the us

[Competitor 9]

And that's exactly what's happened.  The more people dependent on government the more power government has. I don't know how anyone can look at the developments in the western nations without concern.  Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I often wonder what exactly the ultimate goal is. Some of the smarter of that bunch must realize the system can't sustain itself.  Are we really seeing the implementation of the Cloward-Piven strategy.

I've also wondered what the grand plan is... It seems to me honestly is to blame the white people for all the problems in society. It sure looks like it's headed towards a socialistic society 

[Las Vegas]

Americans cutting back on birth rates was at least in part to advancements, etc, that lowered individual opportunities.  It was like a collective conscience sort of thing, looking out for their children and grandchildren.  Now some assholes at the top of the supply chain come along to purposely destroy that.

[Archer77]

I've also wondered what the grand plan is... It seems to me honestly is to blame the white people for all the problems in society. It sure looks like it's headed towards a socialistic society 

It sure looks like we are headed toward socialism.  People are in for a shock. Socialism promises a lot but seldom delivers. I'm afraid at this point it is impossible to turn this ship around. Western society is headed straight toward a very large iceberg with socialism written on it.

[Las Vegas]

Are you not understand the context of this conversation? When did I say it was a solution I don't even no what you are talking about. The only thing I've said is that it's needs reform and magicly making 5 million people just adds to the overall problem in the us

You want to say immigrants are part of the solution -- look at your first post, fuckwit.

You want to do that while bitching about Americans.  

You can't have it both ways.  You are making the problem happen.

[dr.chimps]

I've also wondered what the grand plan is... It seems to me honestly is to blame the white people for all the problems in society. It sure looks like it's headed towards a socialistic society 

Get your eyes checked.

[TheGrinch]

FVCKING day can't come soon enough for the end of this shit presidency       January 20, 2017

oh because its going to be SOOOOOO much better with Hilldog or Jeb???



sheeple will NEVER learn

[Las Vegas]

We are headed toward a Plutocracy of Privatization.

[Competitor 9]

You want to say immigrants are part of the solution -- look at your first post, fuckwit.

You want to do that while bitching about Americans.  

You can't have it both ways.  You are making the problem happen.

I was say immigration is going to happen by why not reform it to benefit the U.S. and bring in those who are educated and skilled never did I say immigration reform will fix this country. But it is a small part of a large puzzle needed to get everthing on the right track

[jon cole]

My french friend in LV told me how new immigrant from ethiopia and somalia with brand new green card and herd of children are ruining his neighborhood.

She also told me how it's difficult for a french to got a green card, plus the trouble at the border if you enter and exit too much from USA with a basic visa. Every time she cross the border she fears to be repressed from usa.

If the green card was affordable, i will try.

But obviously usa need more an illiterate muslim hebrew than me.