Diet and various degree of ripped

[Cleanest Natural]

When it is all said and done, it is my opinion that everything boils down to ones ability to diet properly all the subcutaneous fat off. The are many more variables.. but the fat levels are crucial to being in true contest shape. Let us start a thread about getting shredded and dieting to get shredded. Everyone is invited to chimme in from their personal experience. I would also like to encourage stories about others and what they did to get ripped. Pictures please so we can illustrate better. A picture is worth a thousand words.

By the way, this is what I mean by being "ripped".

[da_vinci]

I guess it;s not really feasible to get THAT ripped without duretics. Otherwise I'm subscribing.

[Cleanest Natural]

I guess it;s not really feasible to get THAT ripped without duretics. Otherwise I'm subscribing.

I think fat burners and diuretics are NOT necessary to be ultra ripped. Who else shares my opinion? (I believe it is all diet but few can take the weeks when you transition from in shape contest ready to near death unpleasant zone)

[SilverSpoon]

Sev, you and I have spoken about our tennis backgrounds.

Due to an overuse injury when I was 17, my right shoulder needed rest.  I am sort of OCD about things, so I took my recreational cycling to fairly excessive levels.  I had a sweet Eddy Merckx rig and off I would go like Forrest Gump.

While I never got as ripped as your picture(s) would indicate, I got scary ripped.

I was 6'1" tall, weighed a whopping 158, and looked like an anatomy chart. 

I often think of what would have happened had I started taking lower body weight training very seriously during that time.  I don't think my calves would have grown (nothing has ever seemed to help), but I firmly believe that time would have been the best time to have begun.  And, I NEVER would have decided to "bulk", either a "clean" bulk or a "junk food" bulk.

[XFACTOR]

Diet and Cardio here.  I'd say the cardio 6 days a week is the biggest difference maker.

I don't really have cheat meals or days etc..  Eat out a lot though so steak, sashimi, lobster are always in the mix albeit with minimal carbs.  

[Uncle Joon]

I want to expound on theory (actually its more like scientific fact apparently) about why some people have a harder time losing body fat than others that I read in the article.

As I understand it you don't even actually ever "Lose body fat cells" you have acquired in your lifetime.

The body fat cells you already have acquired (depending on how fat you got in your life) merely shrink or expand depending on factors such as diet and exercise etc.

Therefore the suggestion being that if you were overweight for number of years or obese or just got very fat you will carry more body fat cells than someone who has been lean all their life and will have harder time staying lean etc.

I also read once you remove the body fat cells through lipo suction, they can never come back, but only new fat cells can be formed.

If this is the case aren't we all better of just getting lipo and saving ourselves years of pain?

Is the theory about the body fat cell thing correct?

[njflex]

Diet and Cardio here.  I'd say the cardio 6 days a week is the biggest difference maker.

I don't really have cheat meals or days etc..  Eat out a lot though so steak, sashimi, lobster are always in the mix albeit with minimal carbs.  

  pic..ur always on point..

[XFACTOR]

8)pic..ur always on point..

Thanks man! Work in progress.

[Knooger]

I want to expound on theory (actually its more like scientific fact apparently) about why some people have a harder time losing body fat than others that I read in the article.

As I understand it you don't even actually ever "Lose body fat cells" you have acquired in your lifetime.

The body fat cells you already have acquired (depending on how fat you got in your life) merely shrink or expand depending on factors such as diet and exercise etc.

Therefore the suggestion being that if you were overweight for number of years or obese or just got very fat you will carry more body fat cells than someone who has been lean all their life and will have harder time staying lean etc.

I also read once you remove the body fat cells through lipo suction, they can never come back, but only new fat cells can be formed.

If this is the case aren't we all better of just getting lipo and saving ourselves years of pain?

Is the theory about the body fat cell thing correct?

Outed.

[Cleanest Natural]

I had a similar experience around 1998-1999. I took a break from tennis to try to be ome a top squash player. At the club, between hours of teaching I started doing mild cardio and teding magazines to pass the time. My diet was nonexistant at the time. After 7 weeks I realized I was ripped albeit small. I did not lift at all at the time.

Xfactor is a good example. He is able to stay very lean. I also believe increased cardio maies the difference from some point on.

Joon, I think the theory is bogus. Maybe subconsciously you are just looking at an excuse to eat and indulge. Lipo is pointless. Diet and do cardio. My frind Radu was 32kg overweight at some point and he managed to turn it all around. He theoretically had the fat gene all his life. I see no fat man nowadays and he is as lean offseason.

[da_vinci]

Diet and Cardio here.  I'd say the cardio 6 days a week is the biggest difference maker.

I don't really have cheat meals or days etc..  Eat out a lot though so steak, sashimi, lobster are always in the mix albeit with minimal carbs.  

Compound list?

[devilsmile]

joon that's an excuse. Diet and cardio is the key for a fat man to lose fat.

you are so full of excuses you don't even search for people who have done the big fat loss Project succesfully, you only search for more excuses to not diet and excercise.

my problem is gaining muscle. I'm always very lean and I get little progress even if I train like a maniac, I feel like a small kung fu master who's put against Super heavy weight champions, I feel like I train my soul for few percentage of difference in my muscle maturity that will fade away when I suffer few weeks of flu, and I'm back to zero.

But I know it's due to lack of eating, my appetite and stomac size is that of a bird. I know that I have to eat smaller meals throughout the day, but I'm too lazy to apply my self. You and I are the same, minus I don't have a drug or alcohol problem.

[TheShape.]

But I know it's due to lack of eating,  appetite and stomac size is that of a bird. I know that I have to eat smaller meals throughout the day, but I'm too lazy to apply my self. You and I are the same, minus I don't have a drug or alcohol problem.

I can literally eat everything and at most my weight will go up 5 lbs after a month, if I'm lucky. Then if I don't keep up with it I'll lose it very fast. It sucks.

[devilsmile]

I can literally eat everything and at most my weight will go up 5 lbs after a month, if I'm lucky. Then if I don't keep up with it I'll lose it very fast. It sucks.

Yeah. Last summer I was alone an entire day almost every day because I had to eat, because it takes me forever to eat because I feel like puking in between. Then I would go to the gym and everything I did during the day, which was eating, showed in training, I could feel a tiny progress everytime I went to the gym.

Then I met a 'special' girl and wasted 5 months of my life. Won't happend again.

[XFACTOR]

Compound list?

Ephedrine (one week per month), test, liquid var.

[da_vinci]

Ephedrine (one week per month), test, liquid var.

Nice. good look at so little stuff.

[XFACTOR]

Nice. good look at so little stuff.

Thanks! Very curious about GH. This is definitely something I will consider over the next few years as I get older. We will see how long I can keep up before I deteriorate. Guys like Groink and No one give me hope

[Cleanest Natural]

Thanks! Very curious about GH. This is definitely something I will consider over the next few years as I get older. We will see how long I can keep up before I deteriorate. Guys like Groink and No one give me hope

you can look fantastic trust me.. meaning even much better than now. I would be very happy to hold your shape at least a few months.

[che]

I think fat burners and diuretics are NOT necessary to be ultra ripped. Who else shares my opinion?

I do .

[AlphaGyno]

Diet and Cardio here.  I'd say the cardio 6 days a week is the biggest difference maker.

I don't really have cheat meals or days etc..  Eat out a lot though so steak, sashimi, lobster are always in the mix albeit with minimal carbs.  

looking a bit purple, how's the blood pressure?

[TheShape.]

Yeah. Last summer I was alone an entire day almost every day because I had to eat, because it takes me forever to eat because I feel like puking in between. Then I would go to the gym and everything I did during the day, which was eating, showed in training, I could feel a tiny progress everytime I went to the gym.

Then I met a 'special' girl and wasted 5 months of my life. Won't happend again.

I think we're the same person. Except change 5 months to 2 and a half.

[XFACTOR]

looking a bit purple, how's the blood pressure?

Just checked yesterday 119/79   I run 3-5 miles a day 6 days a week and diet is decent.  Resting HR is 65

[falco]

I think fat burners and diuretics are NOT necessary to be ultra ripped. Who else shares my opinion? (I believe it is all diet but few can take the weeks when you transition from in shape contest ready to near death unpleasant zone)

Genetics would play an important role. Some guys could without them, others can't.

[Uncle Joon]

joon that's an excuse. Diet and cardio is the key for a fat man to lose fat.

you are so full of excuses you don't even search for people who have done the big fat loss Project succesfully, you only search for more excuses to not diet and excercise.

my problem is gaining muscle. I'm always very lean and I get little progress even if I train like a maniac, I feel like a small kung fu master who's put against Super heavy weight champions, I feel like I train my soul for few percentage of difference in my muscle maturity that will fade away when I suffer few weeks of flu, and I'm back to zero.

But I know it's due to lack of eating, my appetite and stomac size is that of a bird. I know that I have to eat smaller meals throughout the day, but I'm too lazy to apply my self. You and I are the same, minus I don't have a drug or alcohol problem.

Problem is I drink, fuck girls, do coke, smoke weed, then next day im totally hungover and I have to eat shit and miss training sessions. Then repeat few days later.
When I was 18-27 I can just drink ever other day and nothing affected too much.
Now it takes me 3-4 days to recover. This is the problem.
Last night got mashed, today fucked, just eat and sleep and wank all day.

[devilsmile]

Problem is I drink, fuck girls, do coke, then next day im totally hungover and I have to eat shit and miss training sessions. Then repeat few days later.
When I was 18-27 I can just drink ever other day and nothing affected too much.
Now it takes me 3-4 days to recover. This is the problem.
Last night got mashed, today fucked, just eat and sleep and wank all day.

worst habbit is easiest kept.

I wouldn't brag a ton how you've been able to drink all your life without a hangover untill now, neither

I have a problem of doing nothing productive, but I don't use drugs or drink. I'm just a manic depressed and lazy. If someone called me to a party, I woudn't go, the idea stresses me and bores the hell outa me. Untill I go to that party.

You live the way you do to hide the frustration and mental pain, but in the process you destroy yourself in the long run

At the end of the day you're the only one who can help yourself, and you have a choice to do everything opposite each day you wake up. Starting from the bottom is a pain in the ass, but you stay there forever if you let yourself and then you're in more pain.

Chances are, we'll never make it... but what the hell, better than "searching a meaning of life" despite all the money, nice homes, family and friends. When you are hungry, you start to look at people like that as if they don't exist, with their plans, dreams and all that. You are the boss of your own life. You know what you are.