Doing Some Maths on Rotisserrie Chicken - Advance Keto Diet Concepts.

[Parker]

That is one of the silliest things I have ever heard (with respect)

I am not going to compare myself to a genetically elite gifted Olympian bodybuilder running grams and grams of PED's, just like it would be totally counter productive for a natty bodybuilder to follow pro/juiced up bodybuilding protocols.

Lyle McDonald went into great depth on this subject about why 90% of people/gym rats SHOULD NOT be following pro bodybuilders routines/diets/protocols.

Your argument is like me taking advice on how to become a millionaire from a national lottery winner. Plain stupid.
There are exceptions in life always, but they don't make the general rule for most.

Also in answer to your earlier question about "why not just plain grilled chicken breast"

Well cos it tastes like shit and is demotivating and not something I will stick to eating regular where as I can just about handle Rotisserie chicken cos it actually tastes good.

PS. I love Shaun Ray, one of my all time fave bodybuilders.

You take things too literally. There is a certain guideline. Shawn is not saying you are going to get the same results as him, but he is giving you pointers. He even mentioned something to Melvin Anthony on video about how people will at the last minute eat raisins, or do something stupid to eff up their conditioning or results. Sound familiar?
You make the same mistake as millions of other people working out. You make things overly complicated them get pissed off or depressed when things don't go right. But, you are a special case. You believe if you over think things, then it will come off correct. But, in your mind you know that you are incorrect. Which is why you asked the question. You get off on doing this. It is a cycle. You get excited, then depressed at the outcome. Try and tweek it, overcomplicate again--excited then depressed.

You get off on the going thru the motions, but subconsciously you know it will not work, again. Even when told to stop over complicated things, and just be consistent, you don't listen. And then when the result that you knew would happen, you go through a slump.

[Thin Lizzy]

Yes agreed but the point is I DON'T....It's a choice I make.

I only train crazy/hard/diet for 3-4 months at a time.

I treat it like fight camp.

Rest of the time I chill and enjoy life/food etc.

That means I have to be extra careful for the 3-4 months that I am dieting going balls out....everything counts in this period...no margin for error.

My balls out is extremely different from other peoples.

I'll drop calories super low and do 5-6 hours training  a day.

Its a proven formula that works for me all the time.

Allows me to enjoy best of all worlds.
 
I am not interested in being a miserable cu nt eternally .....that is what most people don't seem to get.

Training that much is not realistic or sustainable. Something will happen that gets in the way: injury, work, family etc.

Conversely, you can always restrict caloric intake. That just takes motivation.

Whenever someone gives me the bs about eating whatever they want and "working it off," I point out the amount of time to burn 600 cals via exercise: an hour of running, compared to the amount of time it takes to eat 2x300 calorie donuts: 2 minutes.

[geeizback]

is the 'gee' being talked about a reference to me in my previous incarnation here- gee38?

if so- please keep my name and myself out of this bullshit. I've been back lurking a few months after getting a recall. I am now back and not getting dragged into any of this name calling shite. So please let this sleeping dog alone.

If its Uncle Joon I can verify its me by the fact i used to use a mrfingers account which I think you used to pm me on via the avesher. BigMC I used to pm you over the Donny thing and gave you a number to bell me once.  And Uncle Joon- You also spoke to me on the phone on a few occasions. This was all when Josh's board was running which was when I got pulled back in on breach of licence.

However gents- I have no interest in getting involved in this shite anymore. So I'd prefer it if my name and any reference to me was kept out of this.

I will not respond to any posts on here at all. I only have interest in reading about stuff and getting motivated to get back into shape. Anything outside of that i have no interest in commenting but if anyone wants to do it by pm.

Cheers

There is indeed a light and it never goes out.

Be lucky.

[SF1900]

The only people who need to get really scientific about their health are the people who are morbidly obese and are on the verge of death. Then you definitely need to be extremely methodical about your approach.

However, if you're an average "Joe" who just wants to get into better shape, then its not all too complicated.

Here is the formula:

Eat sensible + Train hard and consistent + Good genetics = Muscle growth.

Its not rocket science.

[bigmc]

is the 'gee' being talked about a reference to me in my previous incarnation here- gee38?

if so- please keep my name and myself out of this bullshit. I've been back lurking a few months after getting a recall. I am now back and not getting dragged into any of this name calling shite. So please let this sleeping dog alone.

If its Uncle Joon I can verify its me by the fact i used to use a mrfingers account which I think you used to pm me on via the avesher. BigMC I used to pm you over the Donny thing and gave you a number to bell me once.  And Uncle Joon- You also spoke to me on the phone on a few occasions. This was all when Josh's board was running which was when I got pulled back in on breach of licence.

However gents- I have no interest in getting involved in this shite anymore. So I'd prefer it if my name and any reference to me was kept out of this.

I will not respond to any posts on here at all. I only have interest in reading about stuff and getting motivated to get back into shape. Anything outside of that i have no interest in commenting but if anyone wants to do it by pm.

Cheers

There is indeed a light and it never goes out.

Be lucky.

hey mate

hope the hotel wasnt too shit

welcome back

[geeizback]

in fairness bigmc I was going back over old ground so it was just a matter of time before I got a recall. And all the time its happening people are using you to sort their stuff out for more or less pin money. Fucking stupid in fairness. However a spell back behind the door clears the head to say the least. While I was away my missus gave birth to our first child- a daughter. I missed the birth because I was back away. And thats the jolt I need and needed to turn away for good.

For that alone its time to grow up and stop doing anything soft. I have a family to protect and fend for and will put my energy into that.

Best of british to all and sundry from hereon in!

[bigmc]

in fairness bigmc I was going back over old ground so it was just a matter of time before I got a recall. And all the time its happening people are using you to sort their stuff out for more or less pin money. Fucking stupid in fairness. However a spell back behind the door clears the head to say the least. While I was away my missus gave birth to our first child- a daughter. I missed the birth because I was back away. And thats the jolt I need and needed to turn away for good.

For that alone its time to grow up and stop doing anything soft. I have a family to protect and fend for and will put my energy into that.

Best of british to all and sundry from hereon in!

congratulations

special moment

[Thong Maniac]

Training that much is not realistic or sustainable. Something will happen that gets in the way: injury, work, family etc.

Conversely, you can always restrict caloric intake. That just takes motivation.

Whenever someone gives me the bs about eating whatever they want and "working it off," I point out the amount of time to burn 600 cals via exercise: an hour of running, compared to the amount of time it takes to eat 2x300 calorie donuts: 2 minutes.

Yeah this is so true. I remember telling my boss about how to get in shape...dude was doing spin classes, cardio. Cardio. Weights...but eating like an idiot. I was like bro, it doesnt matter one bit whAt u doin in the gym. Change how u eat and THEN u will lose weight. He did that and lost 60lbs. Diet is everything

[Hulkotron]

Moderate cardio + moderate calorie reduction is the best way to lose weight imho.

Drastic implementations of both or either I think will inevitably lead to frequent binges.