Author Topic: My kid last night hitting 480lbs (Read 28417 times)

DanM · « **Reply #100 on:** March 25, 2015, 02:53:23 PM »

Quote from: Devon97 on March 25, 2015, 11:40:40 AM

Parallel box squat is harder than a parallel sqt

No, it's not

MAXX · « **Reply #101 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:13:32 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2015, 02:49:31 PM

Do you want a 2-3sec pause at the bottom?

couldn't watch the vid but I assumed it was a half rep since box squat + the weight sounds too much for a kid that age to do full dept

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #102 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:20:28 PM »

Quote from: DanM on March 25, 2015, 02:53:23 PM

No, it's not

It is and I'll tell you why. If the box squat is done correctly when you sit back on the box itself, your shin angle should be behind your toes forcing you to use your posterior chain. This is the primary reason why we box squat. If he was to free squat (which he does at school) he can take that wider than normal stance and still come to parallel or below. His regular squat is in the mid-400's at least because his posterior chain is strong. Same with most of our athletes. Explosiveness in any power sport come from posterior chain. This is also why my 140lbs cyclist is able to box squat 345. It's also why anyone with a strong posterior chain can do a big box jump. This is a 54" tire jump for multiples...

http://instagram.com/p/wK-OQ8G10F/

DanM · « **Reply #103 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:21:41 PM »

Quote from: MAXX on March 25, 2015, 03:13:32 PM

couldn't watch the vid but I assumed it was a half rep since box squat + the weight sounds too much for a kid that age to do full dept

A 14" box at 6ft tall would have him right around parallel

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #104 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:22:07 PM »

Quote from: Nails on March 25, 2015, 02:52:57 PM

I bet this stud box squats all the time as well

Blithering idiot.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #105 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:24:47 PM »

Quote from: DanM on March 25, 2015, 03:21:41 PM

A 14" box at 6ft tall would have him right around parallel

And that's where he is. We only squat parallel or below. When we front squat it well below.

DanM · « **Reply #106 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:27:55 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2015, 03:20:28 PM

It is and I'll tell you why. If the box squat is done correctly when you sit back on the box itself, your shin angle should be behind your toes forcing you to use your posterior chain. This is the primary reason why we box squat. If he was to free squat (which he does at school) he can take that wider than normal stance and still come to parallel or below. His regular squat is in the mid-400's at least because his posterior chain is strong. Same with most of our athletes. Explosiveness in any power sport come from posterior chain. This is also why my 140lbs cyclist is able to box squat 345. It's also why anyone with a strong posterior chain can do a big box jump. This is a 54" tire jump for multiples...

http://instagram.com/p/wK-OQ8G10F/

I have no problems with box squats, I've done them years ago and have heard them praised as being the golden calf before. But in all practical purposes the box really serves as a crutch in the hardest part of the lift. They're in no way a harder movement than a correctly done free squat. A regular squat is a much harder movement, a much more violent movement by nature.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #107 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:28:17 PM »

Joe, how much could you do in this lift?

MAXX · « **Reply #108 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:55:07 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on March 24, 2015, 02:41:22 PM

Yeah, these guys must be good for at least 225 in a "real squat" EL-O-EL

nice leg development on those fellas

lmao @ beer belly old man with bird legs

alot of them probably have knee problems. dont teach your son to lift like that...

OlympiaGym · « **Reply #109 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:04:51 PM »

where is a white kid playing college fb at 182 lbs?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #110 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:23:35 PM »

Quote from: MAXX on March 25, 2015, 03:55:07 PM

nice leg development on those fellas

lmao @ beer belly old man with bird legs

alot of them probably have knee problems. dont teach your son to lift like that...

1. It saves knees.

2. It saves knees for life because of the posterior strength thats involved. Hamstrings are a flexor to the knee. Most of the time of you have knee problems from squatting, it's because you're squatting above parallel and/or your hamstrings are weak.

Nails · « **Reply #111 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:27:49 PM »

OneMoreRep · « **Reply #112 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:28:31 PM »

Good looking kid, strong and tall... Best of luck with him coach!

"1"

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #113 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:29:44 PM »

Quote from: OlympiaGym on March 25, 2015, 04:04:51 PM

where is a white kid playing college fb at 182 lbs?

He's usually around 190-195. After the season Between school, girlfriend, etc he does't have much time to eat. Getting him to eat like he should is a difficult task. But, he was a safety so he'll probably be a safety in college as well.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #114 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:36:48 PM »

Quote from: OlympiaGym on March 25, 2015, 04:04:51 PM

where is a white kid playing college fb at 182 lbs?

Cole Beasley just signed a 14 million dollar contract and he weighs 174 pounds.

He can jump through the roof as well.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #115 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:37:25 PM »

Quote from: Nails on March 25, 2015, 04:27:49 PM

Love Tommy Moffit. Met him two years ago at the Hammer Strength clinic at USC. My son with was with me and he was the youngest one at the clinic. Tommy sat with him during lunch. We took him up on his invite to LSU to watch the team activities for a week. One of the best coaches of not THE best coach in college football. But in a team situation of course we can't box squat but we do squat wider than he suggests.

OlympiaGym · « **Reply #116 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:00:10 PM »

Quote from: polychronopolous on March 25, 2015, 04:36:48 PM

Cole Beasley just signed a 14 million dollar contract and he weighs 174 pounds.

He can jump through the roof as well.

Good on him. Usually the bros have the great ups.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #117 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:04:28 PM »

A high school safety squatting 480. Aahahhahahahahahahahaha

Never1AShow · « **Reply #118 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:08:41 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2015, 10:22:20 AM

Awsome response genious. It's not a YouTube. But feel free to come down and train us. I promise I'll keep the weight at less 225 so it doesn't bury your fat ass.

Post the video or shut up. No one has seen it.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #119 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:28:53 PM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on March 25, 2015, 06:08:41 PM

Post the video or shut up. No one has seen it.

I have - fuck off already.

Straw Man · « **Reply #120 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:31:00 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 25, 2015, 06:28:53 PM

I have - fuck off already.

I thought it was Coach who posted the video (though the one time I checked it didn't work)

You're saying you posted it too?

Grape Ape · « **Reply #121 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:32:49 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on March 25, 2015, 06:31:00 PM

I thought it was Coach who posted the video (though the one time I checked it didn't work)

You're saying you posted it too?

Read the second sentence in the post I responded to.

Straw Man · « **Reply #122 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:34:57 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 25, 2015, 06:32:49 PM

Read the second sentence in the post I responded to.

Gotcha

what do you think of a parent posting a video of his kid on a board known for dishing out shit and inviting people to "flame on"

what is the motivation there on the part of the parent?

Grape Ape · « **Reply #123 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:45:19 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on March 25, 2015, 06:34:57 PM

Gotcha

what do you think of a parent posting a video of his kid on a board known for dishing out shit and inviting people to "flame on"

what is the motivation there on the part of the parent?

Within the context of Coach (familiar with the board, age of son, expertise in field, etc) it's not a problem. If it was somebody else with a younger child, that's different.

As for motivation, I think it's just a proud parent showing something others might be interested in. And those who understand it, were. Those who are gimmicks, ignorant of training for athletics, or who kept making lame jokes and getting ignored, obviously were not interested.

Straw Man · « **Reply #124 on:** March 25, 2015, 07:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 25, 2015, 06:45:19 PM

Within the context of Coach (familiar with the board, age of son, expertise in field, etc) it's not a problem.

As for motivation, I think it's just a proud parent showing something others might be interested in. And those who understand it, were. Those who are gimmicks, ignorant of training for athletics, or who kept making lame jokes and getting ignored, obviously were not interested.

I wouldn't say criticizing (or making lame jokes as you phrased it) was not an obvious lack of interest

He invited people to flame on and that's exactly what they did

You can be proud of your kid without having to post videos, especially on a forum like this

I just don't get the need for attention (on Joe's part - not his kid)