REPUBLICANS THROWING THE ELECTION EARLY.....All agree with Indiana anti-gay law

[andreisdaman]

Pence has been setting himself up for a VP slot for a while.  Excellent record.  he pulled this shit the wek of the Final Four on purpose to put himself in the front lights for a RINO nominee like Jeb.  He's no dummy.  this was a shrewd political move, and even maddow had to admit it.  The base, well, they BIT lol.  It worked perfectly.  The base reacted with their annual "chik Fila" actions, predictably.  They've paid $500,000 in donations to a shitty pizza joint whose owner kinda appears to be a dick lol.  These same folks donated to obama-voting, wifebeating zimmerman.  These same folks took selfies with chik fila sandwiches.  These same folks hugged 21 ounces of coca-cola to prove bloomberg can't hold them down.

They want to control something in their lives, to be relevant in a world where we just aren't lol.  They join onto a hateful movement and suddenly they're important, they control things, they're PART OF SEOMTHING BIG.  They love it.

Pence is smart.  Period.

The fact that they are already backtracking and trying to fix the law shows they know they overreached.....and as usual by their backtracking, they've left their supporters hanging out there alone.....like the conservatives on this board

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Please provide said scientific evidence, even if that is the case, homesexuality is still an abnormality. It serves no purpose to further the species.

As far as the bible is concerned people need to understand the difference between the old testament and the new testament and what covenant applies to who.

so what

lots of things people choose to do (let's just pretend its a choice for the sake of argument) also serve no purpose...other than pleasure, comfort, companionship, love and of course gay people can also raise families but still let's just pretend that's of "no purpose"

still

so what

who are you to decide what human activities serve a purpose or not and when has that ever even mattered.

[Skip8282]

and again...why is it anyone's business what the sexuality is of people who patronize your business???....again...businesses patronize child molesters every day without asking them if they are one

That's neither here nor there.

You're trying to make up a position that I don't have and argue against it.

For the record, I am against allowing religious people to block gay people, just as much as I'm against allowing white people to discriminate in their businesses.

I don't believe the market self-corrects.

By default, that means I agree with FORCING religious people to serve ALL members of the public.

When you're honest enough and man enough to own up to that, you might actually be able to put forth an argument.

[Skip8282]

Yes, let's all give in to middle age thinking despite scientific evidence and clear argument that gayness is nature not nurture.

It's also fucking absurd, why don't you stone those that work sunday, or wear two different fabrics? Time to grow up, discrimination is wrong, particularly when it is not a choice.

What right does a business have to a person's sexual preference? More stupid people making stupid decisions. It says in the bible don't like da gays, the other stuff we ignore though, it's my right! I am a certified moron. CHERRY PICKING your way to discrimination, great job!

Ah shut up ya stupid, Canadian, Fuck.  You don't even know my position and you're arguing against.

Scroll up idiot.

[andreisdaman]

That's neither here nor there.

You're trying to make up a position that I don't have and argue against it.

For the record, I am against allowing religious people to block gay people, just as much as I'm against allowing white people to discriminate in their businesses.

I don't believe the market self-corrects.

By default, that means I agree with FORCING religious people to serve ALL members of the public.

When you're honest enough and man enough to own up to that, you might actually be able to put forth an argument.

I honestly don't understand what you are saying here....if you feel the way you expressed above then why are we arguing???..we agree on the same thing...or does it bother you that we are on the same side??

[Skip8282]

I honestly don't understand what you are saying here....if you feel the way you expressed above then why are we arguing???..we agree on the same thing...or does it bother you that we are on the same side??

No, we're not arguing.  Don't go down the rabbit hole of a retard like Necrosis.  I'm trying to get you to put forth an honest and straightforward argument rather than bob, dodge, weave, deny, and flat out lie.

As far as I'm concerned, in order to maintain a civilized society, we have to FORCE certain behaviors.  So, when the question is asked, the answer is 'yes', we are arguing that it's right and justified to force religious people to do something that they don't believe in.

[andreisdaman]

No, we're not arguing.  Don't go down the rabbit hole of a retard like Necrosis.  I'm trying to get you to put forth an honest and straightforward argument rather than bob, dodge, weave, deny, and flat out lie.

As far as I'm concerned, in order to maintain a civilized society, we have to FORCE certain behaviors.  So, when the question is asked, the answer is 'yes', we are arguing that it's right and justified to force religious people to do something that they don't believe in.

I like to put it that all people must obey the law...we can't start giving out special dispensations for people to opt out of laws...especially laws banning discrimination....becaus e we are such a unique and multi culrtural society, if everyone didn't obey discrimination laws there would be chaos.....so my definitive answer is, practice your religion anyway you see fit...until it clashes with the rights of others...then we have a problem.....

Thats like religious groups or those who are religious saying.."I'm not gonna sell you a cake because you have had an abortion"...I just say to the religious groups, mind your own business.

Now I do defend the right of said religion not to let gays or people who have had abortions into the religion to worship.......since that might be based on a moral ground where you want people in your religion to act as you do.....understandable... .but maybe not the best practice either

[Skip8282]

I like to put it that all people must obey the law...

No you don't.  Right now the law in Indiana says it's ok to discriminate against gay people and you're railing against it.

What you want is a law that says you cannot discriminate against gay people, but you CAN discriminate against a person's religious beliefs.

And that I would argue has to occur or we end up right back to the whole separate but equal, sit in the back of the bus, bullshit that should've died ages ago.

Religion is a poison.

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The fact that they are already backtracking and trying to fix the law shows they know they overreached.....and as usual by their backtracking, they've left their supporters hanging out there alone.....like the conservatives on this board

the ignorant, ass-informed base voters won't remember the retraction/backdown.   If they do notice it (in much smaller FOX News headlines lol), it'll be "Oh, the libs didn't let us do it, but we would have..."

The lowest-info people, those who vote with emotion and really ain't that bright, stick with the far left and right.  They let wedge issues lead their lives and would put Hitler into office if he agreed on some insane extreme action that lined up with their belief on a single wedge issue.

SO this is why we'll keep seeing a chick-fila, a Pence thing, etc.   It works, and even far-left people like Maddow have to admit it works lol.