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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2015, 12:49:18 PM »
He's quick to violence, so he seems qualified.  :D

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2015, 02:26:28 PM »
Call blackwater

Same shit, more pay and you don't have to become an expert with a floor buffer

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2015, 02:41:38 PM »
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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2015, 02:42:58 PM »
Call blackwater

Same shit, more pay and you don't have to become an expert with a floor buffer

I think they have new name ;)

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2015, 04:36:34 PM »
I think they have new name ;)

actually i did.  xe services or some shit.  i don't have enough combat exp. to be of value.  i was on a boat lol.

funny about the cop thing- it's been brought up before as a backup.  i thought it a reasonable last resort until ferguson and subsequent nightmares.  not so sure anymore.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2015, 06:57:20 PM »
actually i did.  xe services or some shit.  i don't have enough combat exp. to be of value.  i was on a boat lol.

funny about the cop thing- it's been brought up before as a backup.  i thought it a reasonable last resort until ferguson and subsequent nightmares.  not so sure anymore.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2015, 07:17:30 PM »
Just because you try does not mean you will succeed.  And in like manner, just because you failed does not mean you will not eventually succeed.

At a particular job.  In love.  At life.

All the best, young man.


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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2015, 08:00:16 PM »
Just because you try does not mean you will succeed.  And in like manner, just because you failed does not mean you will not eventually succeed.

At a particular job.  In love.  At life.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2015, 08:15:47 PM »
Just because If you try does not mean you will not succeed.  And in like manner, just because you will failed does not mean you will not eventually succeed.

In everything. At a particular job.  In love.  At life.

All the best worst, young man.



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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2015, 11:08:59 PM »
Not going into specifics but I found out recently that I've been permanently shut out of my dream career.  Realize this is bitch-mode but I'm downright destroyed over this.  Drinking slightly more than usual.  No motivation for anything.  Really in a dark place now.

Have any of you been dealt such shitty, life-altering news?  How did you deal?  

I'm limited in that I've learned if I don't have a passion for something I usually quit or fail.  And so few things interest me enough to dedicate my life to them.  I do have at least a little time on my side since I'm 31.    

I've had this experience. My suggestion is to move on as quickly as possible. Drinking won't help, I know this first hand. Also, think about seeing a psychologist. Talking to a professional really can help you work through this.

You are lucky being 31 years old. My career got fucked over when I was 52 years old. It is hard to move on at that age. I sucked it up and continued working for the same employer until I retired. This was a hard decision. These days, I'm laughing all the way to the bank with a really nice retirement income. That might not have happened had I told my employer to fuck it and quit.

My position was contracted out to a big corporation. After too many years, my employer realized the error in this. They ended up paying the contractor a lot more than I made and for less product. Unfortunately, they never admitted their mistake and asked me to come back. If they had, I'm not sure I would have taken them up on the offer. I was just that bitter.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2015, 12:39:33 AM »
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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2015, 01:24:08 AM »
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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2015, 03:05:44 AM »
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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2015, 03:41:50 AM »
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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2015, 06:49:10 AM »
I don't know what it's like to become a cop in England but in the US in many areas it's tough to get a job. Here in New Jersey in the US many police departments top out with a base pay of 130K before overtime for a guy with no rank. If they have 5 jobs they are getting 15K in applicants.  In rural states the pay is way lower and getting the job is easier. Many require a college degree, physical test and drug testing. If you try to become a Trooper in Jersey they have over 20K in applicants for 100 jobs. Then the 6 month academy use to have a 50% failure rate.

I think the biggest problem in the US is the myth that college is the road to a career. College should be considered an alternate trade school. If that college diploma doesn't make you employable then you wasted your time getting loans for that degree. You should have a degree that says something like you're a nurse practitioner, pharmacist, teacher,mechanical engineer, or something to that effect. The typical liberal arts degree is only of value to a human resource person hiring you if they have an equally worthless degree. The amount of crazy money they want for tuition is taking the life savings from parents and putting kids in debt for life with the easily obtained loans. The easy loans are the reason why a professor is making over 100K for teaching two classes a week. When all these loans start defaulting and they become hard to get watch colleges reduce tuition.

Many people making serious money today are in the trades. I know someone with a communication degree will look down their pompous nose at guys that work with their hands but they are making serious money. I know a counter top guy making some serious coin. I know a pizza parlor owner who lives in an incredible house. Going to a vocational school can get you employed and earning a check with the potential to go into business for yourself. My 30 something barber is always bragging he makes money than everyone he went to high school with and they all went to college. He's making close to $100 an hour with the tips in his busy trendy shop. Then again he has a reputation and skill that people seek. Most barbers make chump change truth be told. Just using him as an example of someone in the trades.

I retired at 52 with a retirement income that's greater than many married people's dual income but it's a big reduction hit for me so I have to reduce my life style soon and down size my dream house.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2015, 07:30:38 AM »
I don't know what it's like to become a cop in England but in the US in many areas it's tough to get a job. Here in New Jersey in the US many police departments top out with a base pay of 130K before overtime for a guy with no rank. If they have 5 jobs they are getting 15K in applicants.  In rural states the pay is way lower and getting the job is easier. Many require a college degree, physical test and drug testing. If you try to become a Trooper in Jersey they have over 20K in applicants for 100 jobs. Then the 6 month academy use to have a 50% failure rate.

I think the biggest problem in the US is the myth that college is the road to a career. College should be considered an alternate trade school. If that college diploma doesn't make you employable then you wasted your time getting loans for that degree. You should have a degree that says something like you're a nurse practitioner, pharmacist, teacher,mechanical engineer, or something to that effect. The typical liberal arts degree is only of value to a human resource person hiring you if they have an equally worthless degree. The amount of crazy money they want for tuition is taking the life savings from parents and putting kids in debt for life with the easily obtained loans. The easy loans are the reason why a professor is making over 100K for teaching two classes a week. When all these loans start defaulting and they become hard to get watch colleges reduce tuition.

Many people making serious money today are in the trades. I know someone with a communication degree will look down their pompous nose at guys that work with their hands but they are making serious money. I know a counter top guy making some serious coin. I know a pizza parlor owner who lives in an incredible house. Going to a vocational school can get you employed and earning a check with the potential to go into business for yourself. My 30 something barber is always bragging he makes money than everyone he went to high school with and they all went to college. He's making close to $100 an hour with the tips in his busy trendy shop. Then again he has a reputation and skill that people seek. Most barbers make chump change truth be told. Just using him as an example of someone in the trades.

I retired at 52 with a retirement income that's greater than many married people's dual income but it's a big reduction hit for me so I have to reduce my life style soon and down size my dream house.





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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2015, 08:38:31 AM »
I don't know what it's like to become a cop in England but in the US in many areas it's tough to get a job. Here in New Jersey in the US many police departments top out with a base pay of 130K before overtime for a guy with no rank. If they have 5 jobs they are getting 15K in applicants.  In rural states the pay is way lower and getting the job is easier. Many require a college degree, physical test and drug testing. If you try to become a Trooper in Jersey they have over 20K in applicants for 100 jobs. Then the 6 month academy use to have a 50% failure rate.

I think the biggest problem in the US is the myth that college is the road to a career. College should be considered an alternate trade school. If that college diploma doesn't make you employable then you wasted your time getting loans for that degree. You should have a degree that says something like you're a nurse practitioner, pharmacist, teacher,mechanical engineer, or something to that effect. The typical liberal arts degree is only of value to a human resource person hiring you if they have an equally worthless degree. The amount of crazy money they want for tuition is taking the life savings from parents and putting kids in debt for life with the easily obtained loans. The easy loans are the reason why a professor is making over 100K for teaching two classes a week. When all these loans start defaulting and they become hard to get watch colleges reduce tuition.

Many people making serious money today are in the trades. I know someone with a communication degree will look down their pompous nose at guys that work with their hands but they are making serious money. I know a counter top guy making some serious coin. I know a pizza parlor owner who lives in an incredible house. Going to a vocational school can get you employed and earning a check with the potential to go into business for yourself. My 30 something barber is always bragging he makes money than everyone he went to high school with and they all went to college. He's making close to $100 an hour with the tips in his busy trendy shop. Then again he has a reputation and skill that people seek. Most barbers make chump change truth be told. Just using him as an example of someone in the trades.

I retired at 52 with a retirement income that's greater than many married people's dual income but it's a big reduction hit for me so I have to reduce my life style soon and down size my dream house.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2015, 10:08:45 AM »
I don't know what it's like to become a cop in England but in the US in many areas it's tough to get a job. Here in New Jersey in the US many police departments top out with a base pay of 130K before overtime for a guy with no rank. If they have 5 jobs they are getting 15K in applicants.  In rural states the pay is way lower and getting the job is easier. Many require a college degree, physical test and drug testing. If you try to become a Trooper in Jersey they have over 20K in applicants for 100 jobs. Then the 6 month academy use to have a 50% failure rate.

I think the biggest problem in the US is the myth that college is the road to a career. College should be considered an alternate trade school. If that college diploma doesn't make you employable then you wasted your time getting loans for that degree. You should have a degree that says something like you're a nurse practitioner, pharmacist, teacher,mechanical engineer, or something to that effect. The typical liberal arts degree is only of value to a human resource person hiring you if they have an equally worthless degree. The amount of crazy money they want for tuition is taking the life savings from parents and putting kids in debt for life with the easily obtained loans. The easy loans are the reason why a professor is making over 100K for teaching two classes a week. When all these loans start defaulting and they become hard to get watch colleges reduce tuition.

Many people making serious money today are in the trades. I know someone with a communication degree will look down their pompous nose at guys that work with their hands but they are making serious money. I know a counter top guy making some serious coin. I know a pizza parlor owner who lives in an incredible house. Going to a vocational school can get you employed and earning a check with the potential to go into business for yourself. My 30 something barber is always bragging he makes money than everyone he went to high school with and they all went to college. He's making close to $100 an hour with the tips in his busy trendy shop. Then again he has a reputation and skill that people seek. Most barbers make chump change truth be told. Just using him as an example of someone in the trades.

I retired at 52 with a retirement income that's greater than many married people's dual income but it's a big reduction hit for me so I have to reduce my life style soon and down size my dream house.

Considering people are living longer and longer, 52 is a very young age at which to retire.  It will be a decade or more before you can collect SS and be on Medicare. Too bad you didn't plan for the reduction and pay off you house before retiring.

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Re: Serious career question
« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2015, 11:44:56 AM »
I don't know what it's like to become a cop in England but in the US in many areas it's tough to get a job. Here in New Jersey in the US many police departments top out with a base pay of 130K before overtime for a guy with no rank. If they have 5 jobs they are getting 15K in applicants.  In rural states the pay is way lower and getting the job is easier. Many require a college degree, physical test and drug testing. If you try to become a Trooper in Jersey they have over 20K in applicants for 100 jobs. Then the 6 month academy use to have a 50% failure rate.

I think the biggest problem in the US is the myth that college is the road to a career. College should be considered an alternate trade school. If that college diploma doesn't make you employable then you wasted your time getting loans for that degree. You should have a degree that says something like you're a nurse practitioner, pharmacist, teacher,mechanical engineer, or something to that effect. The typical liberal arts degree is only of value to a human resource person hiring you if they have an equally worthless degree. The amount of crazy money they want for tuition is taking the life savings from parents and putting kids in debt for life with the easily obtained loans. The easy loans are the reason why a professor is making over 100K for teaching two classes a week. When all these loans start defaulting and they become hard to get watch colleges reduce tuition.

Many people making serious money today are in the trades. I know someone with a communication degree will look down their pompous nose at guys that work with their hands but they are making serious money. I know a counter top guy making some serious coin. I know a pizza parlor owner who lives in an incredible house. Going to a vocational school can get you employed and earning a check with the potential to go into business for yourself. My 30 something barber is always bragging he makes money than everyone he went to high school with and they all went to college. He's making close to $100 an hour with the tips in his busy trendy shop. Then again he has a reputation and skill that people seek. Most barbers make chump change truth be told. Just using him as an example of someone in the trades.

I retired at 52 with a retirement income that's greater than many married people's dual income but it's a big reduction hit for me so I have to reduce my life style soon and down size my dream house.

Don't regard my handle, I'm American.

I know what you're talking about.  I've applied to police academies every couple years on the side of my regular job just to see what it was like and if I could make it in.  In 08 I was turned down for recent drug use.  Nipped that in the bud since then since Maryland has 3-year wait from the last time you've done drugs.  Applied to a county police dept. since they start at $49k but I was competing against hundreds of people for few positions.  Also applied to a federal police unit and passed everything but wasn't selected.  

I always score super high on the tests and somewhere near the top in PT scores.  You're right that it's the competition.  A lot of these guys I'm up against are current cops looking to move around.  I'm not too worried yet because I've always had work but now that my plans have changed I think my attitude towards that career path is warming up.  

Honestly, even if I make it I hope to move on to something else after a few years.  I never really wanted to be a cop for a whole career.  Too much negativity to bring home every day and once I hit 40-45 I'm not gonna want to risk my ass every day.  I don't want to end up on the news.