Look who I ran into at a powerlifting meet

[Howard]

I don't understand why it should bother you. He found a way to create a business and make money. It's doesn't take an MBA to have a successful business. The gym where this meet is being held is a good friend of mine. It's a personal training gym that does well over a million a year. If more people would take the initiative we wouldn't have so many on the government dole.

Good pts BUT.

BUT, in most service provider business you need some successful experience and/or credentials.
The man has no personal contest success of merit.
He has no degrees , certifications or training to gain expertise.

Other then being a big dude with some personal charisma , what kind of expertise does he have ?

[MAXX]

Good pts BUT.

BUT, in most service provider business you need some successful experience and/or credentials.
The man has no personal contest success of merit.
He has no degrees , certifications or training to gain expertise.

Other then being a big dude with some personal charisma , what kind of expertise does he have ?

entertainer.

you don't need credentials to make money as long as there are people who want your product

[Coach is Back!]

Good pts BUT.

BUT, in most service provider business you need some successful experience and/or credentials.
The man has no personal contest success of merit.
He has no degrees , certifications or training to gain expertise.

Other then being a big dude with some personal charisma , what kind of expertise does he have ?

Degrees don't mean shit and certs don't mean shit unless you're working with certain demographics such as athletes, etc. with bodybuilding, training experience is most important.  This guy been training for about 25 years.

[Julio Ceasar]

Now, now, now......Howard.

Don't you know that we live during the time of generation nothingness? This is a time where you don't need an education, certifications and/or even an actual talent whatsoever to be famous.

Today, people like Kim Kardashian, who walks around with the behind of an overweight, 65 yr old woman with no actual talent can become a multimillionaire.

I don't blame these talent-less individuals for their success. On the contrary, I blame the incredibly stupid masses that will volunteer to give up their money to support and perpetuate their presence in the media.

Kardashian, Piana, as well as any other crafty individual that has made it to fame via "leaked" videos or YouTube channels are all simply hustlers that have figured out a way to make the average person part with their money with very little resistance involved.

"1"

Stupid mass? U mean you and me and everyone else on this board talking about them mention their name, google, watch youtube, instagram, facebook, newspaper etc etc...
 

[Rambone]

Tommy Lee and José Raymond lookin jacked and tan

[SF1900]

Stupid mass? U mean you and me and everyone else on this board talking about them mention their name, google, watch youtube, instagram, facebook, newspaper etc etc...
 

Pretty much. But there are varying degrees of stupidity. Its one thing to talk about them on here, another thing to buy their supplements or subscribe to their FB or Instagram page. While I somewhat play a part of the stupid masses, I at least try to limit it by not directly providing them with money.

[SF1900]

entertainer.

you don't need credentials to make money as long as there are people who want your product

Exactly. When you have enough stupid teenagers believing in this 5% bullshit, you don't need to have any credentials. You just need to ensure that the people you're marketing to are naive (teenagers, hardcore gym rats). Rich Piani would not survive 5 minutes on Wall Street or in the real corporate world.

But I guess good for him for targeting a naive population and selling himself!

[local hero]

Despite the criticisms he's cool.

Cool sandles brah...

[King Shizzo]

Coach has a solid physique for his age btw

As solid as.........

[The Scott]

Oh, no.

Rich is just doing what ALL supplement businessmen do within the bodybuilding industry.......

I'll leave that open to your own conclusion, as I don't want to sound rude.

"1"

Yup.      I don't care for him or others like  him but then I am far from his target audience.  I got suckered into ordering (for  more than I made in a week) some Weider Weight Gain 10,000 back in the early 70s by ads in Muscle Builder/Power or whatever he called it that week, so I understand completely!   

[James28]

Stupid mass? U mean you and me and everyone else on this board talking about them mention their name, google, watch youtube, instagram, facebook, newspaper etc etc...
 

Speak for yourself. Some of us have literally no idea who these people are nor have ever, ever looked them up or as much as googled their names.

[da_vinci]

Exactly. When you have enough stupid teenagers believing in this 5% bullshit, you don't need to have any credentials. You just need to ensure that the people you're marketing to are naive (teenagers, hardcore gym rats). Rich Piani would not survive 5 minutes on Wall Street or in the real corporate world.

But I guess good for him for targeting a naive population and selling himself!

Everything is justified if it sells. Money are being made out of a lot more stupid shit around the world, this one is actually quite unique/original (in his freakyness,etc..).

[Carlton G. Long]

Cool sandles brah...

hahaha

Gayer than a pink soccer ball.

[SF1900]

Everything is justified if it sells. Money are being made out of a lot more stupid shit around the world, this one is actually quite unique/original (in his freakyness,etc..).

Agreed. But good thing for him there is enough naive teenagers and stupid hardcore gym rats to fall for his "5%" crap. He found a niche and went with it.

But as stated, in the real corporate world of business, he would not last 5 minutes. He just doesn't have the skill set or mindset.

Though, if people ever "wake up" like getbiggers regarding supplements and all that shit, hes going to be in for a rude awakening. But I dont suspect that happening any time soon.

[Dave D]

True.

BUT what objective success has Rich Piana had as a competitive bodybuilder?

He's been competitive in national level show Howard, and he wasn't lost in the sea of competitors as you would like to say.

I get your point but you're failing to realize this generation do sent care about bodybuilding,  they want to be lean and big, aka look good. For example look at the amount of idiots who pump their upper bodies full of oil, all show. 

I know men in their mid 30's who adore Piana because he's big and lean, these guys buy his sups thinking there's something to them because old Rich is a "straight shooter".

His resume and credentials are obvious.  It's just not our cup of tea.

[SF1900]

He's been competitive in national level show Howard, and he wasn't lost in the sea of competitors as you would like to say.

I get your point but you're failing to realize this generation do sent care about bodybuilding,  they want to be lean and big, aka look good. For example look at the amount of idiots who pump their upper bodies full of oil, all show. 

I know men in their mid 30's who adore Piana because he's big and lean, these guys buy his sups thinking there's something to them because old Rich is a "straight shooter".

His resume and credentials are obvious.  It's just not our cup of tea.

He has the perfect marketing scheme. He is very honest (straight shooter) about his steroid use and other shit, therefore, he must be honest about his supplements.

[Howard]

Everything is justified if it sells. Money are being made out of a lot more stupid shit around the world, this one is actually quite unique/original (in his freakyness,etc..).

For some reason, guys like Piana seem to make more $$ and get a bigger following then a lot of pros.
I know plenty of gym rats that would be more likely to listen to him or Palumbo then a top 5 Olympia pro.

[Dave D]

He has the perfect marketing scheme. He is very honest (straight shooter) about his steroid use and other shit, therefore, he must be honest about his supplements.

Exactly, despite the fact that he has a video that he states all supplements and junk except for his of course. I have guys you drink his All Day convinced it does something,  one even said it has a lactic acid buffer in it and these are grown men with over a decade of training. ......

For some reason, guys like Piana seem to make more $$ and get a bigger following then a lot of pros.
I know plenty of gym rats that would be more likely to listen to him or Palumbo then a top 5 Olympia pro.

And this is because pros are blatant about lying about their drug use, ie Liar Priest.  It's the same reason Bostin Lloyd has a cult following,  even if his lies are to the other extreme,  you give the people what they want.

[Radical Plato]

Despite the criticisms he's cool.

Coach's midget status confirmed.

[Royalty]

Piana seems like a fun dude... has a good time. And good to bodybuilding fans

[WalterWhite]

I hope you got a free 5% hat and tank and a PMMA clinic discount.

[Coach is Back!]

Safe to assume Piana is about 5'8"?

Ouch

[Coach is Back!]

I hope you got a free 5% hat and tank and a PMMA clinic discount.

Haha, nah. Got the pic and went about my business. His buddy (the big Mexican dude, Jake I think his name is) was doing the bench part of the meet. He got I think a 550 and missed 565. Strong lift though. Pretty sure Chad Wesley Smith take his class easily.

[gmflex]

He asked my kid to take some video I'm assuming for his Instagram.

Who is the hottie with the cal shirt?

[Coach is Back!]

Who is the hottie with the cal shirt?

I think it was that jake dudes girlfriend.