haha well i guess i can give you credit for being the first theist ever to ask for a statement to be backed up with fact.
Yes, I realized long ago that atheists haven’t cornered the market on asking questions and that the theist brain can formulate questions.
As i'm sure you're aware though, the burden of proof is on you guys as "exceptional claims require exceptional evidence".
Understanding of course that the term “exceptional” is completely subjective and easily rejected at the whim of the reviewer.
You're seriously saying that Jesus has came in to Tbombz life, as well as yours?
Absolutely that’s what I’m saying. And because of that change in me I care about you and desire for you to know Christ in your life.
Can you ask Jesus then, why he would choose to ignore the prayers of millions, why he'd allow things like the holocaust to happen or mass genocide in Rwanda for instance, and instead choose to show himself to a mentally ill guy with HIV?
How is it you know he didn’t reveal himself to victims of the Holocaust or in Rwanda? The God of this world is divine and infinite and transcends it and the universe that contains it. To enter into infinity with God means to exit this life in death. Sin has brought about death and decay upon the world and the free will given to men to engage in whatever acts of evil they choose gives way to an incalculable list of potential threats.
I’d assume he’d tell you that he entrusted the whole of creation to humanity and he wonders why humanity has made such a mess of things. God deemed his creation good and created man without sin. Man chose to defy that relationship with God and thereby corrupt the goodness God established and incur his wrath. Begs the question: given we know the potential for evil and outright engagement of evil within ourselves why we continue to allow it? We have every God given resource at our fingertips to prevent all sorts of atrocities, but we don’t eradicate such horrible things. We hide behind politics and rhetoric and do nothing…..or we casually blame God…..shameful.
If he's a part of your life, and he's helping Tbombs, then he's a personal god who cares about you individually, and created the world with you in mind, so not only does he intentionally ignore the pain and suffering of millions, but he also invented the HIV that has infected Tbombz.
How is it you know he ignores the pain and suffering of millions? He abhors it. The problem of evil is resolved through Jesus Christ.
The reality is, it’s God’s good creation which is the platform for resolving the problem of evil. Jesus left eternity and entered his finite creation as the incarnate Son of God who came to collect his church – those folks that reject sin and accept his standards and desire to be with him. He didn’t preprogram our choices into us, but yet he still knows the outcome….omniscience can’t be helped….it just is. “But God’s also all powerful. Couldn’t he have created a better world? Living in this existence while facing the problem of evil now isn’t just.” How so? Would you rather he create us as automatons with a fully scripted existence that negates our choices? God wants folks to come unto him that truly want to be with him. It’s our choice to accept or reject him that provides the purest pathway to eliminating evil. Notice also that this creation we exist in today was deemed “good” not “perfect”. The new creation is coming once the church - that has willfully chosen Christ - has been collected. Jesus Christ overcame our sin on Calvary’s cross and it’s up to us to make a choice to align ourselves with him or not based on what he did for us.
Our autonomy ends when we enter eternity. You’re a finite creation with finite choices to freely make in this finite existence, but those choices are still subject to infinite ramifications based upon his infinite terms (because God is infinite in nature). The finite existence we live in is merely staging for what is yet to come and what we choose to do now determines the outcome of our eternal existence. The realm of eternity – the infinite – is the final setting in which justice will be dealt out based upon our free choices in the finite. Again, we are autonomous in the finite (our realm), but not in the infinite (God’s realm). Yet, when each of us exits this life the problem of evil is one step closer to achieving full resolution because the problem of evil is reconciled individually (despite the fact we typically only acknowledge it collectively). It’s individuals that freely choose to assemble together to form the body of Christ and it’s individuals that freely choose to reject Christ. In this life we’re meant to go through the fire, but that fire is cleansing if you’re aligned with Christ.
please also ask him why if he wanted us all to be free from sin, then why not just take more care to have designed us better in the first place?
As I stated above, he created man free from sin, but with the ability to choose to engage in sin. Man chose to defy God and in doing so incurred his judgment.
why condemn everyone to be born into "original sin", create us sick and then order us to be well or face the punishment of eternal torture? where's the morality in that? lol.
Everyone is born with the proclivity to sin, but not born with sin or immediate condemnation to hell. How do we know this? Children.
When I read about King David’s child with Bathsheba passing away and David suggesting that as a believer he would he see his child again in God’s kingdom it affirmed for me the innocence of children and others with disabilities that prevent them from making an honest choice about sin and Christ in their lives. They don’t need salvation because being saved by grace through faith in Christ means we are saved from the wrath/judgment of God. The innocents need not fear God’s wrath for they are without blame or need for judgment.
“Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. Then he said, ‘I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.’”
Christ also indicated how severely those that cause the children (the little ones) to fall into sin would be judged. The children are lead into sin and out of innocence.
As believers in Christ we are saved by grace through faith and thereby justified and deemed righteous….like the innocents who are inherently righteous we become like the them through Christ.
Seems a bit extreme to have himself sent down to earth in the form of his son, to have himself tortured...whilst knowing full well that he'll be resurrected anyway, and all to show us that he cares for us and all we have to do is shed the sin that he created us in to begin with!
Christ’s act of salvation on the cross was very extreme, but in essence what he did was simply sweeten the deal for us…..not for him, for us…..everything is about us. Again, as believers we acknowledge and accept blame for our sins. Jesus Christ left the divine and came as a man on earth as the perfect sacrifice for us. The act on Calvary’s cross is about love….love for us. He took upon himself all the pain that we deserve and in one mighty act forever bridged the gap between the finite and infinite if only we make the choice to accept him. Life is in the blood and because of the perfect, blameless, sinless shed blood on the cross that sin debt was extinguished permanently. It’s then up to us to again choose to accept or reject this act of love.
Sin has a powerful impact upon our lives. It’s an infection of sorts that spread from first man to current man. God’s law is based upon his righteous, divine nature; yet, he allows his creation to exist in a state where the potential for sin is there. As we choose to engage in sin it creates a divide between us and God. Yet, we aren’t forced to sin….we make the choice. Still he already knows that man in his state of finite autonomy will opt for sin…that we have a “sinful nature”. He also knows that man is capable of choosing righteousness instead. If we exist in that state of potential sin yet choose God’s righteousness and allow him to work in us to overcome our sin the gulf between our unrighteousness and his righteousness is bridged. Giving folks the option for both ends of the spectrum and everything in between makes our decision for God pure because we seek righteousness. That’s why Jesus Christ came.
The bible is quite clearly an antiquated and contradictory piece of fantasy, written by fools, which at best is used to give the illiterate, brainwashed and desperate a poor understanding of the universe, which has since been answered much more thoroughly by science, and at it's worst (and most common) is a divisive and oppressive ideology that's used as a form of power by controlling the minds of the stupid.
Yes, “a bronze age book written by sheepherders in an age of blood and ignorance to control the weak-willed and stupid”…..yes, yes I’ve heard it repeatedly. And yet it still holds today despite the rampant attempts at ridicule and mockery. That behavior is expected, outlined in scripture and I’m unphased by it. So hit me with your best shot……I’m still gonna share Christ with you and tell you that I do care about you.
There are definite things to glean from scripture about our universe, but the bible from beginning to end is about Jesus Christ.
Now, that wasn’t too hard to answer.
