tell ya mature threaders are very cool,cinsiderate,genuine in there caring for situations that happen that we post,gerge'willie 'pm's me all the time and asks abot wife and general concern to pep me up,donny/jay/ken/have all been great ,,,jay/donny last yr close to this time kept me going dueing 2 month ordeal with back 'nerve 'issue which was tough but i got through it ,,2014 we will forge on...and of course WES return of our old soldier bbing,history/stories has been awesome for new yr...