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[Donny]

THAT GETS GREAT PUMP AT END,, I DO CHEST DIPS NO WEIGHT 15/20 INTENSE PUMP/SWELL...

I canīt do them after flat and incline presses...i am honest here i just am finished after benches. my triceps are maybe too weak...respect steve...15-20 reps i would not make...maybe 8 good reps but not more. ( i mean parallel bar dips)

[njflex]

donny got me thinking for chest workout i did 2 nite
fdb press 60x12,70x12,80 x10,85x8
inc press 135,185,195,185 with drop to plate
hammer flat 3x  2 plates per side x10,2 plates and some change x8
cable crossovers x3
dips x10 supeset elevated pushups x10 2x nice finish for donny,,,,

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
pushdowns x3
tridip machine x3
close grip bench x2

abs

[booty]

make sure you get your check ups.. I was ill for a while pains..Diarrhea and blood. I was shocked when i saw the pictures of my colon. I was told it could have burst and i would not be here.. suppose i refused to accept i was ill and chronic ill. been living with it over 10 years so anyway my story is over back to training...LOL. Karen and Steve best wishes to your Daughters.

That's scarey Donny.  I am glad you are okay now though.  You are very lucky.  And thank you.  Just playing nurse and it's tiring.  I am not sleeping well, as I am up several times in the night checking on my baby girl. 

[Donny]

donny got me thinking for chest workout i did 2 nite
fdb press 60x12,70x12,80 x10,85x8
inc press 135,185,195,185 with drop to plate
hammer flat 3x  2 plates per side x10,2 plates and some change x8
cable crossovers x3
dips x10 supeset elevated pushups x10 2x nice finish for donny,,,,

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
pushdowns x3
tridip machine x3
close grip bench x2

abs

yes great workout steve...Dips and push ups are great..the push ups just polish it off. Thank  you for your kind words too.. you guys motivate me 100%. The input by all here makes me really proud to write here.

That's scarey Donny.  I am glad you are okay now though.  You are very lucky.  And thank you.  Just playing nurse and it's tiring.  I am not sleeping well, as I am up several times in the night checking on my baby girl.  

Thank you Karen..yeah i suppose iīve had a few near scrapes and nearly met the Grim Reaper a couple of times...still here and i hope for a while...

[Donny]

so Back today:
warm up as always jumping rope
abs: sit ups on floor 3x50(full sit ups) warms my lower back and waist area very well.

Wide Grip over hand chins 2x max
parallel grip chins 2xmax

Barbell rows 4x10 Superset with
Dumbbell pullovers 4x15

Deadlifts 4x10 (straight sets)
Shrugs 3x15

[AVBG]

Traps/rear delts

3 sets db shrugs 45lbs @ 20 reps

4 sets bb shrugs 135-315lbs @ 15-6 reps

2 sets bb close grip upright rows 135lbs @ 10-12 reps

5 sets rear delt raises 35lbs @ 10-12 reps

Cardio 15 mins: recumbent bike Intervals (2 mins slow/1 min full pace x 5)

[Donny]

Traps/rear delts

3 sets db shrugs 45lbs @ 20 reps

4 sets bb shrugs 135-315lbs @ 15-6 reps

2 sets bb close grip upright rows 135lbs @ 10-12 reps

5 sets rear delt raises 35lbs @ 10-12 reps

Cardio 15 mins: recumbent bike Intervals (2 mins slow/1 min full pace x 5)

do you recomend training traps alone ?

[AVBG]

do you recomend training traps alone ?

My traps are lagging, so amongst delts I am focusing on bringing them up.

[Donny]

My traps are lagging, so amongst delts I am focusing on bringing them up.

ok thanks Alex..i am always looking to learn here..nice workout your traps will be solid..

[njflex]

I'VE DONE TRAPS WITH DELTS AND BACK AT TIMES....I NOTICED HEAVY WEIGHTS WORK BUT THEN GOING FOR HIGHER REPA TRAINING 12/15 GETS THEM GOING AS WELL,I DO DBELL OR SMITH FR AND REAR ON SMITH WORKS WELL,,OR RUN THE RACK 100 DOWN TO SAY 60 LBS DBS 5/8 REP EACH SET ...

[Primemuscle]

do you recomend training traps alone ?

I train traps with delts. I have also combined them with an upper back workout.

[Donny]

I have mostly trained my traps with back.. i feel more the connection after Deadlifts and rows. My lats just need that last movement (shrugs). However itīs intresting to see diffrent workouts and think about it. tend to agree with Steve direct trap work i like with higher reps and my heavy lifting i do with Deadlifts.

[AVBG]

ok thanks Alex..i am always looking to learn here..nice workout your traps will be solid..

I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together

[Donny]

I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together

i agree and you can get an intense workout in there. I have trained full body, upper/lower(is not bad) but i am the same as you..i devote my energy to 1 bodypart and with the overlap i train it all. You canīt train your muscles so intense with a full body workout not with so many exercises and most important with ..FOCUS on the muscle group(s)

[Donny]

I do not think you can train with just Basic Exercises..you have to attack your muscles with "isolation" moves too..they finish off the workout and fine tune a great physique. 1 bodypart training is not new and most just think itīs from the muscle mags. They say itīs just steroids but thatīs bullshit and i have never touched steriods and get results. training 4 or 5 days a week works if you KNOW how to train.

[Primemuscle]

i agree and you can get an intense workout in there. I have trained full body, upper/lower(is not bad) but i am the same as you..i devote my energy to 1 bodypart and with the overlap i train it all. You canīt train your muscles so intense with a full body workout not with so many exercises and most important with ..FOCUS on the muscle group(s)

Not having trained on a regular basis for some time now, it seems like the smart thing to do is to train the whole body, using lighter resistance and training only 3 days a week to get back in the swing of things. I might add in some cardio only days in between weight resistance days. I am interested in feedback on this idea.

Looking over prior workout routines, I was lifting a lot of weight with not many reps once warmed up. I trained each muscle group once per week with the exception of abs and calves. While I realized good increases in strength and possibly some size, I am not sure it is the best routine for a senior citizen such as me, although I got the routine from a fellow who was designing routines for men over 40 years old. The idea of training once a week was based on the fact that it takes a more mature person longer to recover from a workout.

[Primemuscle]

I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together

I have found the advantage to going to the gym pretty much daily and at about the same time is that it becomes very routine and thus more difficult to miss a day. It is similar to missing a meal when you are used to eating it at the same time each and every day.

[Donny]

I have found the advantage to going to the gym pretty much daily and at about the same time is that it becomes very routine and thus more difficult to miss a day. It is similar to missing a meal when you are used to eating it at the same time each and every day.

I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know...

[wild willie]

I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know...

coffee gives me heartburn too.....

[Donny]

coffee gives me heartburn too.....

yeah i donīt drink a lot of it but i think itīs not good for me..

[njflex]

yeah i donīt drink a lot of it but i think itīs not good for me..

DRINK 1 MAYBE 2 PER DAY.NO HEARTBURN CONSISTENT.LIKE IT BLACK ITALIAN ROAST SOME SPLENDA...OR USE NON FAT HAZLENUT CREAMER,,,

[AVBG]

Legs

Cardio:warm up 30 min recumbent bike

4 sets unilateral leg extensions 20-60lbs @ 20-10 reps

6 sets BB squats 135-355lbs 20-6 reps

3 (super)sets lying hamstring curl 20-90lbs 15 reps
3 (super)sets Romanian deadlifts 135-225lbs 10 reps

[Primemuscle]

I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know...

I like to drink coffee. Sometimes, I've wondered if coffee contributes to problems with indigestion. According to Edgar Cayce's teachings, coffee is healthy until you add sugar or cream to it. I like cream in my coffee. If I make coffee at home, as I did this morning, I will make 4 cups (a cup is 6 oz of coffee), therefore the average mug holds about 2 cups. Where I get into trouble is when we go out to a restaurant and the server keeps topping off the cup. What I have concluded is a little coffee is good and, like most anything, too much coffee is not good for you. A interesting factoid, coffee never keeps me awake no matter when I drink it.

Rich foods combined with alcohol give me heartburn. I have not noticed this with coffee when drunk in moderation.

[Primemuscle]

DRINK 1 MAYBE 2 PER DAY.NO HEARTBURN CONSISTENT.LIKE IT BLACK ITALIAN ROAST SOME SPLENDA...OR USE NON FAT HAZLENUT CREAMER,,,

Be careful with artificial sweeteners, I am convinced they are bad for you. My wife has battled a weight problem all her life, she only drinks beverages with artificial sweeteners. If they worked, why does she have type II diabetes? When I want something sweet, I go for natural sweeteners, like sugar or honey. I have never had issues with my weight. Speaking of sweeteners, a lot of products that are non-fat have added sweeteners instead. Some fats in moderation are good for you. When you think about it, what do you add when you add cream to your coffee? I would suggest maybe 1 tablespoon of cream. I don't believe there is enough fat in that small amount to hurt you.

[njflex]

Be careful with artificial sweeteners, I am convinced they are bad for you. My wife has battled a weight problem all her life, she only drinks beverages with artificial sweeteners. If they worked, why does she have type II diabetes? When I want something sweet, I go for natural sweeteners, like sugar or honey. I have never had issues with my weight. Speaking of sweeteners, a lot of products that are non-fat have added sweeteners instead. Some fats in moderation are good for you. When you think about it, what do you add when you add cream to your coffee? I would suggest maybe 1 tablespoon of cream. I don't believe there is enough fat in that small amount to hurt you.

I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.