The Mature thread

[Donny]

so there is more exercises but you get the point...stick to weight training. However it is ok for physio. I love to watch women vibrate on this...

[Primemuscle]

so there is more exercises but you get the point...stick to weight training. However it is ok for physio. I love to watch women vibrate on this...

Well I must say the it looks really weird. The lady using it doesn't look too happy. Perhaps, she's having certain sensations which are distracting her? 

Like you suggest, I will stick to weight training. I use a "Tens" when I have lower back soreness. Rather than vibrate it away, it shocks it away. Each pulse causes the muscles to contract and relax in very short bursts.

[Primemuscle]

Friday, chest:

Weight 207

ISO lateral flat bench press, 4X10-2 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral incline bench press, 4X10-6 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral decline wide bench press, 3X10-6 @ 90 to 180 added weight. I also did one last set with no weight added @ 15 reps
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 107 to 147
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 75 to 105
Nautilus super pullovers, 3x12-8 @ 90 to 120
Body Masters seated pec flys, 3X10 @ 60

I felt a little off today. My energy was low I think. Also, I worked out earlier than I prefer because I dropped my wife off for physical therapy and hit the gym while the PT's worked on her. My preferred workout time is after 2:30 p.m. Anyway, if you compare today's workout with last Friday, the resistance in about the same, but I have added reps. I did get a good pump.

[Donny]

Friday, chest:

Weight 207

ISO lateral flat bench press, 4X10-2 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral incline bench press, 4X10-6 @ 70 to 130 added weight
ISO lateral decline wide bench press, 3X10-6 @ 90 to 180 added weight. I also did one last set with no weight added @ 15 reps
Nautilus weight assisted dips, 3X10-6 @ 107 to 147
Nautilus pec deck, 3X12-8 @ 75 to 105
Nautilus super pullovers, 3x12-8 @ 90 to 120
Body Masters seated pec flys, 3X10 @ 60

I felt a little off today. My energy was low I think. Also, I worked out earlier than I prefer because I dropped my wife off for physical therapy and hit the gym while the PT's worked on her. My preferred workout time is after 2:30 p.m. Anyway, if you compare today's workout with last Friday, the resistance in about the same, but I have added reps. I did get a good pump.

Jay you have my full respect, you are a good husband. I like your training posts with Steve. Steve would be an excellent trainer not just because of his knowledge but because he is very humble ..knows so much but never arrogant.

[Donny]

Today is a rest and relaxation day..so i think i will go to the local swimming baths and hit the whirlpool later. itīs not warm enough to swim outside yet, although last year you could at this time.. Karen and some of the Americanos here can no doubt swim year round outside..

[oldtimer1]

Ran 5 miles yesterday then foolish drank 4 beers. I've been fooling around with the weights for  around 7 months due to illness and injury. Feeling good now and it's time to get serious. Doing this workout today.

Power cleans and jerks 3 x 3 reps then 1x1 (Power)
Squats 2 x 8 then 1 x 1 (leg- I try to go deep)
barbell lunge 1 x 8         (leg)
standing leg curl 2 x 12   (leg)
Dumbbell flat bench 2 x 8  (chest-I go as low as I can and touch the bells at the top)
Pull ups 2 x max               (lats-dead hang trying to touch upper chest)      
low cable row 2 x 12          (lats- full stretch then keeping the upper back vertical at completion)
military press 2 x 8           (delts- all the way down to upper chest. I clean the barbell off floor to start)
standing dumbbell laterals 2 x 10  (delts-I try to reasonably keep arms extended )
dips with weight 2 x 8             (triceps chest- I go very deep. I never got anything from the standard half reps you see)
barbell curl 2 x 10                   (bicep-I'm a little sloppy on these but I'm trying)
hanging leg raise 2 x max        (ab)
ab pulley 2 x 25                       (ab)
standing calf 2 x 15                   (calf-good stretch and all the way up)
weighted back extensions 2 x 15 (lower back-these always makes my lower back feel great)
grip and neck work                    ( I use ivanko grippers or iron mind)

I'm starting with moderate weights hoping to add roughly 5 lbs an exercise every workout. At 6 workouts I should max out then I will change the routine to a split or just change the exercises. Trying to do this workout twice week with running. So maybe 3 days off between work outs. I work out without any HRT or steroids.

[njflex]

jay and old timer cool great workouts ...

legs boyz and girlz,,,

leg press x4 warmed  then 4 plates x12,5 plates x12,6 plates x10,7 x10
hack squats x3 3 plates x12,4 plates x10,5 plates x9
fun part here 45 plate per hand lunges up flight steps every other step up, down,up ,down x2 probably 15 steps up with skip then 20 down can't skip step down will cause death lol....
leg extensions x3 220.235.250 x12

hams dumbell stiff legged on stand 55/60/70 lb dumbells x12
lying leg 140/150/155

calves seated calf raise x4 3 plates up to 4 plates at final set 10/20 rep scale light to heaviest weight..

[Donny]

yeah oldtimer1 is Rich and i know him from Raw iron forum...good guy and knows lots...and lots. great guy to be on here too.

[njflex]

yeah oldtimer1 is Rich and i know him from Raw iron forum...good guy and knows lots...and lots. great guy to be on here too.

great,,,

[Donny]

this is what i like to do for stress relief.. i trained with a man some years ago who was in Japan and trained with Saito Sensei in Iwama..Reinhard Meyer Resse Germany. Sadly passed away but was a big influence on my technique. i learned the short,sharp body movements and ken and jo. I still do the Kata i learned from him. He died of cancer and asked me and a couple of others to go to Japan with him because he knew it was his last time. I still have my Ken, jo, Tanto.

[oldtimer1]

I wish I could do some training with a sword. I just don't know what Japanese art would cover that? I just recently started to develop an interest in swords. A soldier back in the day really had it brutal. They always depict in movies a little stab wound from a sword. I have seen videos of guys cutting in half a 200 pound plus size pig with a sword. Again, war is brutal now and war back in the sword days was also brutal. I was about to buy a real sword not a decorative junk metal one but I heard they are very dangerous to swing around. A misguided tap from a razor sword can cause a serious or fatal injury. I guess this sounds bizarre from a guy that has carried a handgun for 30 years and owns other modern weapons. Just something about weapons like swords, spears, and bows that brings me back in time. I think many military guys can understand that.

[Donny]

I wish I could do some training with a sword. I just don't know what Japanese art would cover that? I just recently started to develop an interest in swords. A soldier back in the day really had it brutal. They always depict in movies a little stab wound from a sword. I have seen videos of guys cutting in half a 200 pound plus size pig with a sword. Again, war is brutal now and war back in the sword days was also brutal. I was about to buy a real sword not a decorative junk metal one but I heard they are very dangerous to swing around. A misguided tap from a razor sword can cause a serious or fatal injury. I guess this sounds bizarre from a guy that has carried a handgun for 30 years and owns other modern weapons. Just something about weapons like swords, spears, and bows that brings me back in time. I think many military guys can understand that.

very true..i like Aikido for itīs calmness and dynamic sphere. I like the joint locks and pins. It always intrested me. I like the fact you can divert energy and..use balance to your advantage.

[oldtimer1]

Is Aikido the martial art that also does sword practice? I would be interested in that art. It does not sound like it's not an easy art to learn. Where I live in NJ it's rare to find a school in that art. Brazilian jiu jitsu schools are everywhere in every town.

[Donny]

Is Aikido the martial art that also does sword practice? I would be interested in that art. It does not sound like it's not an easy art to learn. Where I live in NJ it's rare to find a school in that art. Brazilian jiu jitsu schools are everywhere in every town.




well all Aikido comes from Daito Ryu Aiki Jutsu.. the movement are deprived from the sword. All Aikido principles come from this. Each school has itīs own direction, Iwama Ryu: more ken , jo kata... Yoshinkan Aikido: more emphasis on groundschool techniques(taught to the Tokyo Police) indeed Gozo Shioda andwas known to be hard, there is a Japanese 6th Dan in München i have only spoke to him.
He was an Uchi Deshi from Shioda(direct student) told me some intresting things. Tomiki Aikido is also intresting with "Randori" from Judo..Tomiki was a judo master too. His style is very realistic and not like the "Aiki kai" dancing you see now..schools such as from master Tohei with more emphasis on "Ki"...my tip... Yoshinkan Aikido...the closest to Daito Ryu, i love the wrist locks and kote-gaeshi..and if you want Kata, Iwama Ryu which is what i learned. There is more schools which i tried too, Tendo Ryu from Shimizu sensei which i liked but more round movements and Dynamic.(he comes to Germany a lot and i was at a seminar and met him) He was the last Uchi Deshi from the founder of Aikido..

[Donny]

ooops.... well you can still read it...

[Donny]

well i will go now for a run... might just do some Tabata sprints in the woods... got a great app in my phone which is a hit cardio timer. I like more a 45min steady run but just to shake it up....

[njflex]

donny,,mrn,,, knows little exercises for calves for instance front shin rolls for tibialias definition,,and some rear calf ,,,,

[Donny]

donny,,mrn,,, knows little exercises for calves for instance front shin rolls for tibialias definition,,and some rear calf ,,,,

yeah knows a lot...looking great steve.. well i was running was weird.. sun and then like small hail stones.. i mean at this time of year...

[wild willie]

tonight:

leg extensions  5 sets     


squats  4 sets
   


romanian deadlifts   4 sets


seated leg curls   4 sets

[Primemuscle]

Been a little distracted by some posts in a different forum yesterday and today. But I did get my Saturday quad and calves workout in.

Weight 208

Nautilus leg extensions, 5X15-6 @ 80 to 160
Standing one legged calf raises, 4X15-8 @ 160 to 220
Leg press, 6X20-8 @ machine weight to 500 added weight
alternating with
Leg press calf raises, 5X10-6 @ 100 to 300 added weight
Machine hack squats, 4X10-6 @ 70 to 115 added weight
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 55 to 115

As you will notice, I added sets and reps to these exercises. I think it is making a difference. My pec muscles were tight the next day as have been my quads and calves. Whoopi! I didn't feel a thing in my quads a week ago after working them. Look out Steve, my short skinny legs are going to look like yours pretty soon! I even have small/thin ankles like you do.  

[Primemuscle]

Donny,

Thanks for your kind words in Tbombz thread. I tend to get myself into some shit every now and again. This would be one of those times. I should know better than to cave to the punks on Getbig. But even at my grand old age, I can be stupid at times. I wasn't real pleased to have the before photo I posted here photo-shopped to make me look like some old schmoe ogling Tbombz....please, give me a break!   

[Donny]

Donny,

Thanks for your kind words in Tbombz thread. I tend to get myself into some shit every now and again. This would be one of those times. I should know better than to cave to the punks on Getbig. But even at my grand old age, I can be stupid at times. I wasn't real pleased to have the before photo I posted here photo-shopped to make me look like some old schmoe ogling Tbombz....please, give me a break!   

donīt worry about the fools on here.. I just really write to people like yourself and all on this thread and a few others. I also like to have a laugh but some here really go over the Top.

[Donny]

Chest and back yesterday...

Parallel bar Dips 4xmax superset with sternum chins 4xmax
Barbell rows 4x8-10 superset with push ups using push up bars..4xmax
Flat flys 3x10-12
DB shrugs 4x12-15

finished with hanging knee raises off my chinning bar 3xmax.

[njflex]

Donny,

Thanks for your kind words in Tbombz thread. I tend to get myself into some shit every now and again. This would be one of those times. I should know better than to cave to the punks on Getbig. But even at my grand old age, I can be stupid at times. I wasn't real pleased to have the before photo I posted here photo-shopped to make me look like some old schmoe ogling Tbombz....please, give me a break!   

yeah gossip board could really get u in hot water,,i read that thread u did not come off so bad,,that'boy'is something else ,I will leave it at that,,your looked at here this thread as A POSITIVE POSTER,,,yeah I have pretty small joints which helps in illusion of bigger size,leg wise tho u can see from rear hamstrings how big my legs are they look like a 'horse'leg lol,,,

[wild willie]

hey guys......hope all is well.


just wanted to let you all know that i just returned from california........traine d at the mecca.....ate at the firehouse and saw many bbers and spoke with ironman magazine's jerry brainum........also talked with cormier, strydom, charles glass and world harris.....all good blokes.



jerry brainum and i talked about the old days at the original gold's gym........jerry was great.....he told me that zane would take very short workouts in the offseason.......just a few sets and then leave the gym......but when he was training for the olympia, he would increase his sets and really focus on training......he said zane was incredible in person......pics don't do the guy justice......jerry said that if you think zane look hard and in shape in photos.....you should have seen him in person!


he also said that the guys from the 70s trained with more moderate poundages and more emphasis on mind/muscle connection.


the mecca was busy......still a lot of enthusiasm there and without a doubt the best equipment around.


as always....you can get some excellent bbing food at the firehouse.


strydom was looking big and lean......he mentioned competing in the next masters show.......he told me he is 54 but he could pass for 45.


all in all.....fantastic trip and great to swim in the ocean and enjoy the california weather.



guys.....if you haven't been to gold's venice......you must get there!!!