The Mature thread

[Primemuscle]

Major shoulder issues again....both...can't sleep.....I guess it's the price of getting old...Can't do dips at all right now.
Arms again...because I felt like it(Friday) 4iu Seros pre-workout.

cable preacher curls 4 sets
rope pushdowns with a pause at the bottom 4 sets
one arm cable preachers 3 sets
dip machine 4 sets
DB curls 3 sets
overhead cable extensions 4 sets
hammer curls 2 sets

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.

[Donny]

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.

Great advice Jay. I love Dips.. give the chest a great shape and not just the lower area.

[Wez]

My sister tore her rotator cuff doing dips. She has had problems with it ever since. Dips are a good exercise as long as they are done right and with resistance you can handle with good form.

Sounds like you better lay off the shoulder/delt work until you see the doctor and find out what is up with yours. You should not be in that much pain. It might be something minor, but better to know and take care of it before it becomes something major. Shoulder injuries are slow to heal.

Good point....I already tore the left supraspinatus tendon and had that re-attached a few years ago. Of course it's the right one now. Really thought the GH would help. Dips and overhead presses are out for a while. Laterals seem to be fine. Upright rows are out too. 

[Primemuscle]

Great advice Jay. I love Dips.. give the chest a great shape and not just the lower area.

Lately, I have been using a Nautilus seated dip machine. In the past, I used the Nautilus weight assisted machine. Both offer the ability to really control the resistance which allows me to concentrate on the movement better. The seated version facilitates the most controlled movement of the two machines since there is almost no chance of swinging or changing the position of one's body. Some folks would argue that neither of these machines encourage going the limit on resistance, which they don't really. My question to you is do you think for dips to be really effective doing them heavy is necessary or do you think doing them with absolute control will work the muscle better?

[Donny]

Lately, I have been using a Nautilus seated dip machine. In the past, I used the Nautilus weight assisted machine. Both offer the ability to really control the resistance which allows me to concentrate on the movement better. The seated version facilitates the most controlled movement of the two machines since there is almost no chance of swinging or changing the position of one's body. Some folks would argue that neither of these machines encourage going the limit on resistance, which they don't really. My question to you is do you think for dips to be really effective doing them heavy is necessary or do you think doing them with absolute control will work the muscle better?

I Train Dips with Body weight and pull ups too. I have used extra weight but i find superseting Dips with  push ups saves my Joints, Training Dips heavy is not always an answer to muscle growth. Most People cheat and do half reps...i work slow and concentrate. i also like muscle endurance and Speed so i Train for it.

[chaos]

I rarely do dips after 2 people I know tore their pec. One was a chick.

[njflex]

I rarely do dips after 2 people I know tore their pec. One was a chick.

there very effective for me ,but the catch is yrs ago i used some weight added ,now adays a no/no,i see young kids 2 45's strapped and doing some good reps ,props to them,again i do 15/20 2 sets end of chest work out ,amazing pump 4 me.sometimes cable crossovers/dip superset is nice finisher.

[Wez]

Sunday morning Chest....4iu Seros pre-workout

incline DB press 4 sets 45/55/65/75
incline flys 3 sets 35
decline cable flys 3 sets 20 pause at bottom
smith machine flat bench drop sets 225/185/135 3 sets
pec deck ss with machine press 2 sets

protein drink and go home.

[njflex]

sat was a allaround upper body workout from home 2 sets of chest press/pulldowns inner underhand/reg pulldowns/triceps/cable curls on my machine and some lateral side dbell,shrugs with dbell ,,just pumping stuff ,family barbecue ,drank a tad/eat meat  ,,

sunday leg brutal

leg press 4 plates /5 pl/6 pl/7 pl,,,reps 12/12/10/10
squat close footed 225/275/315...12/10/10
lunges walking 80 and 90 lbs on back walk and walk....
extensions drops set x3 205 x10 then 195x8,,220 x10/190x8/repeat last set ...wicked pump

hams
stiff legged dlift 135x12/185x19,235x10/255x10
seated leg curls x3

calves seated calf raise 3 45's x15/3.5 plates x12/3.5 and 10 added x10
standing calf raise x3

[Donny]

so i did back+chest Today

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
Sternum chins 4xmax

push ups with push up bars 4xmax Superset with
one arm DB rows 4x10

flat Bench flys 3x10 with
Close grip upright rows 3x10 ( unusual superset i know but it finished it off well) was short on time so worked fast.

[Mr Nobody]

so i did back+chest Today

parallel bar Dips 4xmax Superset with
Sternum chins 4xmax

push ups with push up bars 4xmax Superset with
one arm DB rows 4x10

flat Bench flys 3x10 with
Close grip upright rows 3x10 ( unusual superset i know but it finished it off well) was short on time so worked fast.

What kind of weight are doing on the DB rows, Donny?

[Donny]

I am using a 40kg Bell. enough for me.

[Mr Nobody]

I am using a 40kg Bell. enough for me.

Good, the lat stimulation is key no matter the weight. Mentally pull with the lats you know this is strange if you pull with the biceps then that's what you get bicep work.

[njflex]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

[Mr Nobody]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

Congrats man. So many birthdays in August people getting busy in December. My birthday 16th, Sister 22nd, Dad 29th . 7lbs 12.5 is a healthy boy.

[Donny]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

So happy for you and your wife  CONGRATULATIONS

[Wez]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

Congrats! I have 3 kids and six grandkids!

Back day....4iu Seros pre-workout/250mg Galenika Test/150NPP

Wide grip chins 3 sets
close grip pulldowns 3 sets
Straight arm pulldowns 3 sets
seated pulley rows 3 sets
hammer row( single arm) 2 sets
DB row both arms at the same time 2 sets
back machine row with underhand grip 2 sets

total gym time 45 min.
total time

[njflex]

thanks all ....

[Donny]

Good, the lat stimulation is key no matter the weight. Mentally pull with the lats you know this is strange if you pull with the biceps then that's what you get bicep work.

well after chin ups supinated (not in the same superset, my strength is of course lower) I am not one of the big guys on here and work in my capabilities for muscle growth and endurance.

[Donny]

thanks all ....

you are more than wellcome...great poster...GREAT FATHER

[chaos]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

Congratulations!

[booty]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

Omg, big congrats Steve to you and your beautiful wife. 

[Primemuscle]

hey guys/gals...have confession to make,been keeping a personal matter under wraps,today aug 26 i became parent for 3rd time ,a baby 'boy 'at the end of the line of the 2 older sisters ...future bber ....7lbs 12.5 ounces..

If I ever need someone to keep a secret, I will know who to count on. It is amazing that you never said anything.

Congratulations! BTW boys are much easier to raise than girls, based on our experience. Our son was 7 lbs. 14 oz. and 21 1/2" long. Today he's a healthy 6' fellow with a lean and athletic physique.

Guess you won't be sleeping as much as usual. 

[Donny]

Shoulders+Arms

Barbell Standing press 4x10
standind side raises 4x12
Bent over raises 4x12 (forehead on inclined bench)

ez bar curls 5x10 Superset with
lying tri ext 5x12

hammer curls 2x12 Superset with
one arm tri ext 2x12

AB crunches 3xmax

[wild willie]

Monday's workout:


delts    


reverse cable flyes    4 sets  

side laterals    4 sets

machine shoulder presses  (very unique pressing apparatus.....you are pressing on an incline.....but almost pressing backwards)  4 sets

db shrugs   3 sets


calves

seated calf raises  5 sets