Author Topic: The Mature thread (Read 366853 times)

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #6925 on:** April 29, 2015, 03:56:39 PM »

Quote from: The Scott on April 18, 2015, 09:21:17 AM

True. I have often told people that if its heavy for you, then its HEAVY! Don't worry about what others can do. Heavy is relative to each individuals current level of strength. We are all strong in our own way but the level of strength is different. As Mentzer used to say, train to get to your full genetic potential. Not someone else's.

When I was young and the squat became my favorite exercise I could easy handle 500+ pounds for 20 reps and more. People thought it was heavy but for me, it was light. I told them it took years to get to that weight and that if it (20 rep sets) worked for me, it would work for them. But few tried the routine because it is brutally HARD. I liked them. A lot!

I tried it on bench presses too and discovered back then that whatever weight I could do for 20 reps, it was highly probably that I could do a singe with 100 pounds more. The most I ever benched was 350. I never did a single heavy on the squat but the gentleman known as Coach on here and a powerlifter I knew in Florida both estimated (based on my training poundage and rep schemes) that I was capable of at least a 700 pound single at a bodyweight of 250 lbs. (my heaviest ever bodyweight at a height of 6' 1"). Oh lord but I miss my youth!

I digress. Sorry lads!

I hear what you are saying. I have heard more than a few bodybuilders say make a light weight heavy. Took me awhile to grasp the concept. Shorten the rest between sets. Use a full range of motion. Slow down the rep cadence. Use higher reps. Wilf Sylvester said he used 400 reps of free hand squats with leg extensions and leg curls for the 1975 Mr. Universe. He found the free hand squats ripped him up and built up his thighs. If a light weight Mr. Universe winner can use body weight squats there is no need to be embarrassed by using say 135lbs for 4 sets of 15 reps in the squat going ass to grass in a controlled movement. I've seen huge bench press guys reduced to nothing by just push ups. Like Flex recently said on his interview with Ric Drascin. It's how hard you work not the weight.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #6926 on:** April 29, 2015, 11:43:26 PM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on April 29, 2015, 03:49:34 PM

Ran 3.3 miles on an off lifting day. I have to lose 10 pounds. I wonder if it's the beer I drink that's contributing? Finally had an incredible nice day after a rough winter in NJ. It was 72F and breezy. Ran a desolate abandoned rail road trail through the woods. Saw a girl running toward me. She looked a little scared but smiled as I ran by. I know it's scary being in the middle of no where and seeing another person on the trail.

On a different note since supplements are not regulated in the US does anyone really believe whey isolate is practically lactose free like many put on the label? I react pretty badly to lactose. I was looking if my memory serves me Isopure whey isolate and it says on the container lactose free. I'd like to get a container but I don't know if risking explosive runs are worth it.

I'm losing weight the chemical way. It's actually a side effect from Welbutrin which the doctor prescribed about three weeks ago for depression. Every day, when I weigh myself in the morning I am down between 1/2 lb. and 1 lb. The lowest I am going to let myself get before I will have to do something to stop the weight loss is 175 lbs. This morning, I weighed 183.5 lbs.

Donny · « **Reply #6927 on:** April 30, 2015, 07:45:27 AM »

Back ...

Front chins 4 x max
V bar pulldowns 4 sets
Barbell rows 4 sets
Barbell Pullovers 3 sets

I finished with 30 mins interval training on the Crosser.

njflex · « **Reply #6928 on:** April 30, 2015, 08:47:28 AM »

back,traps,abs,calves

chins wide x2x12,underhanded grip x2 x12
bent over rows 135/185/225
hammer pulldowns underhand grip,,2 plates side x3 x10
seated row chest to pad x3
rope standind stretch pulldowns x3..love these

traps shrugs,,,some banter on training board sf1900 thread on training ,'ritch'mentioned 2 trap movements NOT NEEDED,I PREFER 2 AT TIMES
shrugs 135 x20,225X15,275X12,295X12
CABLE SIDE SHRUGS X3'SQUEEZE THESE'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

CALVES 3 SETS 4 SET DROPS 10 REPS PER DROP 200/180/160/140

ABS

Donny · « **Reply #6929 on:** April 30, 2015, 11:12:43 PM »

Quote from: njflex on April 30, 2015, 08:47:28 AM

back,traps,abs,calves

chins wide x2x12,underhanded grip x2 x12
bent over rows 135/185/225
hammer pulldowns underhand grip,,2 plates side x3 x10
seated row chest to pad x3
rope standind stretch pulldowns x3..love these

traps shrugs,,,some banter on training board sf1900 thread on training ,'ritch'mentioned 2 trap movements NOT NEEDED,I PREFER 2 AT TIMES
shrugs 135 x20,225X15,275X12,295X12
CABLE SIDE SHRUGS X3'SQUEEZE THESE'

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3

CALVES 3 SETS 4 SET DROPS 10 REPS PER DROP 200/180/160/140

ABS

i agree.. i only really do close grip upright rows, sometimes Db shrugs. Reverse overhead Dumbbell laterals, which you also do Steve are good too... ala Bertil Fox.

njflex · « **Reply #6930 on:** May 01, 2015, 08:56:16 AM »

DELT/BI/FOREARMS...TELLING U SWITCH TO BI DAY FROM BACK DAY TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR ME,PUMP WISE..

I USED HAMMER BEHIND NECK PRESS,,I GENERALLY HATE THIS MACHINE YOUR LEANED BACK SITTING ON BAD ANGLE 'WHATEVER'DID IT ANYWAY
DID 4 SETS WORKED UP TO 3 25'S PER SIDE,LAST SET DROPPED TO 2 25'S SIDE BUT DID SINGLE ARM AT A TIME.

SIDE LATERAL MACHINE X4 70-100 STACK SETS OF 10

BENT OVER SEATED LATERALS X3 25/30/30 X10 REPS

UNDERHANDED FRONT RAISE PRE MADE CURL BAR 50/60/70 SAME REP SCHEME

2 SETS FINISH TWIST DB PRESS 40/45 DB SETS 10 LOVE THESE

BIS
CURLS '45 LB BAR ALWAYS' 65/85/95/105
INC DB CURL 30/35/40 10REPS
2 SETS SINGLE ARM CABLE CURL
2 SETS HAMMERS 40/45'S

FOREARMS
WRIST CURLS REVERSE BEHIND BACK
CABLE REVERSE CURLS X4

Donny · « **Reply #6931 on:** May 01, 2015, 09:07:35 AM »

Quote from: njflex on May 01, 2015, 08:56:16 AM

DELT/BI/FOREARMS...TELLING U SWITCH TO BI DAY FROM BACK DAY TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR ME,PUMP WISE..

I USED HAMMER BEHIND NECK PRESS,,I GENERALLY HATE THIS MACHINE YOUR LEANED BACK SITTING ON BAD ANGLE 'WHATEVER'DID IT ANYWAY
DID 4 SETS WORKED UP TO 3 25'S PER SIDE,LAST SET DROPPED TO 2 25'S SIDE BUT DID SINGLE ARM AT A TIME.

SIDE LATERAL MACHINE X4 70-100 STACK SETS OF 10

BENT OVER SEATED LATERALS X3 25/30/30 X10 REPS

UNDERHANDED FRONT RAISE PRE MADE CURL BAR 50/60/70 SAME REP SCHEME

2 SETS FINISH TWIST DB PRESS 40/45 DB SETS 10 LOVE THESE

BIS
CURLS '45 LB BAR ALWAYS' 65/85/95/105
INC DB CURL 30/35/40 10REPS
2 SETS SINGLE ARM CABLE CURL
2 SETS HAMMERS 40/45'S

FOREARMS
WRIST CURLS REVERSE BEHIND BACK
CABLE REVERSE CURLS X4

Hammer machine i actually liked. More of a front /side delt movememt but really all delt. think yourself lucky man..got no Hammer machines

njflex · « **Reply #6932 on:** May 01, 2015, 10:30:32 AM »

Quote from: Donny on May 01, 2015, 09:07:35 AM

Hammer machine i actually liked. More of a front /side delt movememt but really all delt. think yourself lucky man..got no Hammer machines

...MAYBE YOUR RIGHT I USED TO DO IT YRS AGO,,ILL GO BACK AND FORTH WITH IT THANKS..

Donny · « **Reply #6933 on:** May 01, 2015, 10:39:28 AM »

Quote from: njflex on May 01, 2015, 10:30:32 AM

...MAYBE YOUR RIGHT I USED TO DO IT YRS AGO,,ILL GO BACK AND FORTH WITH IT THANKS..

I learn from you too ..

SF1900 · « **Reply #6934 on:** May 01, 2015, 10:15:27 PM »

This thread is biased against young people. Biased subforum reported.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #6935 on:** May 01, 2015, 10:33:44 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 01, 2015, 10:15:27 PM

This thread is biased against young people. Biased subforum reported.

Even the great Budda was biased

Primemuscle · « **Reply #6936 on:** May 01, 2015, 10:38:29 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 01, 2015, 10:15:27 PM

This thread is biased against young people. Biased subforum reported.

Do you believe it is biased against you....are you a young person?

Donny · « **Reply #6937 on:** May 02, 2015, 07:34:36 AM »

did a superset arm workout today at Home..

Seated DB curls SS incline ez bar extensions 3x8-10(3 supersets)

BB curls SS Close Grip Bench press 3x8-10

Db concentration curls SS BB tricep kickback...Aint done these BB kickbacks in ages really great move

3x8-10

no cardio today...i´m in Monging Mode today...

SF1900 · « **Reply #6938 on:** May 02, 2015, 07:45:15 AM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on May 01, 2015, 10:33:44 PM

Even the great Budda was biased

Yes, but this is GB. We rise above it all.

SF1900 · « **Reply #6939 on:** May 02, 2015, 07:46:56 AM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on May 01, 2015, 10:38:29 PM

Do you believe it is biased against you....are you a young person?

I bet you'd like a young, stud like myself, huh?

SF1900 · « **Reply #6940 on:** May 02, 2015, 07:49:45 AM »

About to hit arms (3-4 sets, 12-15 reps).

Biceps:
Machine preacher curls
Barbell curls
Hammer curls
Cable curls

Triceps:
Pressdowns
Overhead extensions (cables)
Smith Machine close grip bench press
Underhand extensions

My elbow is finally healed from injury (tendonitis), so not doing many free weight movements for triceps until I feel safe.

Donny · « **Reply #6941 on:** May 02, 2015, 07:59:21 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 07:49:45 AM

About to hit arms (3-4 sets, 12-15 reps).

Biceps:
Machine preacher curls
Barbell curls
Hammer curls
Cable curls

Triceps:
Pressdowns
Overhead extensions (cables)
Smith Machine close grip bench press
Underhand extensions

My elbow is finally healed from injury (tendonitis), so not doing many free weight movements for triceps until I feel safe.

yes probably better. I would stick to Close grip benches(which you have) and Dips. compound stuff but if you can do cable work then go for it. Tri workout looks good though going to hit it all. i would maybe just do pressdowns OR underhand extensions but not both as they both hit the medial and outer heads

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #6942 on:** May 02, 2015, 09:15:20 AM »

'Armageddon' on the balcony of my gym,

8 supersets of laying single arm extentions & seated single bicep curls
2 30+ rep drop down sets of cable extentions & cable curls
Some arm stretching afterwards, great pump

Primemuscle · « **Reply #6943 on:** May 02, 2015, 10:15:10 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 07:46:56 AM

I bet you'd like a young, stud like myself, huh?

Sure, you bet.

Now sonny how about you stay on topic. If you don't have a workout routine to post or something else exercise related, you are right.....we don't want you here.

SF1900 · « **Reply #6944 on:** May 02, 2015, 11:47:00 AM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on May 02, 2015, 10:15:10 AM

Sure, you bet.

Now sonny how about you stay on topic. If you don't have a workout routine to post or something else exercise related, you are right.....we don't want you here.

Look above. I did. Keep up with the conversation.