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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #10625 on: April 03, 2024, 03:22:17 PM »
Me personally? Yes I have stocks and property for income. And a reasonable chunk of cash always on hand. But my gold and my Bitcoin I simply just hodl, with no intention of selling.
You're doing it right. I think these are all solid moves you made and Bitcoin has proven to be the safest play during volatility. I do think you need to give Ethereum more credit though. What the thousands of ETH developers accomplished thus far is something else. It was extremely challenging to pull off the upgrades that were necessary to get it where it is now. The Cardanos and Solanas came a few years after Ethereum started the smart blockchain space and as such they were able to avoid significant upgrades that Ethereum required. Bitcoin is the father of Blockchains. Ethereum is the father of Smart Contract Blockchains. Both are very secure and as decentralized as they can be given their constraints. There's room for improvement sure. That's how it works with technology and networks.

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« Reply #10626 on: April 03, 2024, 05:20:08 PM »
You're doing it right. I think these are all solid moves you made and Bitcoin has proven to be the safest play during volatility. I do think you need to give Ethereum more credit though. What the thousands of ETH developers accomplished thus far is something else. It was extremely challenging to pull off the upgrades that were necessary to get it where it is now. The Cardanos and Solanas came a few years after Ethereum started the smart blockchain space and as such they were able to avoid significant upgrades that Ethereum required. Bitcoin is the father of Blockchains. Ethereum is the father of Smart Contract Blockchains. Both are very secure and as decentralized as they can be given their constraints. There's room for improvement sure. That's how it works with technology and networks.

But one is Proof of Work and the other is Proof of Stake

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« Reply #10627 on: April 03, 2024, 08:50:34 PM »
But one is Proof of Work and the other is Proof of Stake
Correct. And the cost to attack a decentralized Proof of Stake decentralized network like Ethereum will actually be more than the cost to attack a decentralized Proof of Work network like Bitcoin. Not only would the attackers have to acquire sufficient Ethereum, they will also have to set up validators. The price of Ethereum will shoot up as they try to accumulate a sufficient number of ETH. The ultimate cost would be more than what is required to develop / build enough ASIC miners to take over 51% of the Bitcoin hashrate.

Here's a link where it is discussed. I think the numbers are off and conservative.

Proof Of Stake also has the added benefit of using less energy.

https://www.bitcoinsensus.com/51-percent-attack-cost-ethereum/

Cost to Attack Ethereum Network Higher than Bitcoin’s, Say Researchers

Revealing the True Cost of Compromising Blockchain Integrity: Insights from CoinMetrics

CoinMetrics’ research highlights the impracticality and high financial barrier to executing a 51% attack on Bitcoin and Ethereum.
An attack on Bitcoin could cost over $20 billion, while compromising Ethereum would exceed $34 billion, making these attacks economically unfeasible.
Despite concerns about Liquid Staking Derivatives (LSDs), the study shows they cannot be leveraged for network attacks, reinforcing the security of these blockchains.

According to recent findings by CoinMetrics, an on-chain analytics firm, carrying out a 51% attack on the Bitcoin and Ethereum blockchains would not only be exorbitantly costly but also unprofitable and ineffective. These insights shed light on the robust security measures underpinning the two largest cryptocurrencies by market capitalization.

Understanding the 51% Attack Threat

A 51% attack, a potential threat in blockchain technology, involves a group of miners or entities gaining control of more than half of a network’s mining hash rate in Proof-of-Work (PoW) systems, or nodes in Proof-of-Stake (PoS) settings. This control could, theoretically, allow them to manipulate network transactions and double-spend coins. However, the size and strength of a network play a pivotal role in its security, making larger networks like Bitcoin and Ethereum less vulnerable to such attacks.

CoinMetrics’ research, led by Lucas Nuzzi, the head of research and development, quantifies the Total Cost to Attack (TCA) for both Bitcoin and Ethereum. The findings reveal that an attack on Bitcoin would require the purchase of approximately 7 million ASIC miners, a venture that could exceed $20 billion, significantly outweighing any potential gains from the attack. This cost estimation takes into account the market’s reaction to such a large-scale acquisition of ASICs.

The Prohibitive Costs of Attacking Bitcoin and Ethereum

Similarly, targeting Ethereum would be even more costly, estimated at over $34 billion. This figure is based on Ethereum’s current metrics, including its price, the total amount of staked ETH, and the number of validators. The complexity of carrying out such an attack on Ethereum is further compounded by its PoS mechanism, which has a churn limit preventing the immediate deployment of a large amount of stake, extending the time required for an attack to over six months.

Another aspect explored in the study is the potential risk posed by Liquid Staking Derivatives (LSDs), such as those offered by staking services like Lido and RocketPool. Lido, which controls a significant portion of staked ETH, poses a theoretical risk to Ethereum’s network security. However, Nuzzi clarifies that leveraging LSDs to manipulate block templates is not a viable strategy for attackers.

LSDs and Network Security: Dispelling the Myths

The research concludes that the costs associated with carrying out a 51% attack on either Bitcoin or Ethereum far outweigh any potential benefits. This economic disincentive, coupled with the technical challenges involved, makes such attacks highly improbable and reinforces the security and resilience of these leading blockchain networks. The findings provide reassurance to investors and participants in the cryptocurrency ecosystem about the robustness of these digital currencies against potential threats.

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« Reply #10628 on: April 04, 2024, 02:21:43 AM »
Correct. And the cost to attack a decentralized Proof of Stake decentralized network like Ethereum will actually be more than the cost to attack a decentralized Proof of Work network like Bitcoin. Not only would the attackers have to acquire sufficient Ethereum, they will also have to set up validators. The price of Ethereum will shoot up as they try to accumulate a sufficient number of ETH. The ultimate cost would be more than what is required to develop / build enough ASIC miners to take over 51% of the Bitcoin hashrate.

Here's a link where it is discussed. I think the numbers are off and conservative.

Proof Of Stake also has the added benefit of using less energy.

https://www.bitcoinsensus.com/51-percent-attack-cost-ethereum/

Cost to Attack Ethereum Network Higher than Bitcoin’s, Say Researchers

Revealing the True Cost of Compromising Blockchain Integrity: Insights from CoinMetrics

CoinMetrics’ research highlights the impracticality and high financial barrier to executing a 51% attack on Bitcoin and Ethereum.
An attack on Bitcoin could cost over $20 billion, while compromising Ethereum would exceed $34 billion, making these attacks economically unfeasible.
Despite concerns about Liquid Staking Derivatives (LSDs), the study shows they cannot be leveraged for network attacks, reinforcing the security of these blockchains.

According to recent findings by CoinMetrics, an on-chain analytics firm, carrying out a 51% attack on the Bitcoin and Ethereum blockchains would not only be exorbitantly costly but also unprofitable and ineffective. These insights shed light on the robust security measures underpinning the two largest cryptocurrencies by market capitalization.

Understanding the 51% Attack Threat

A 51% attack, a potential threat in blockchain technology, involves a group of miners or entities gaining control of more than half of a network’s mining hash rate in Proof-of-Work (PoW) systems, or nodes in Proof-of-Stake (PoS) settings. This control could, theoretically, allow them to manipulate network transactions and double-spend coins. However, the size and strength of a network play a pivotal role in its security, making larger networks like Bitcoin and Ethereum less vulnerable to such attacks.

CoinMetrics’ research, led by Lucas Nuzzi, the head of research and development, quantifies the Total Cost to Attack (TCA) for both Bitcoin and Ethereum. The findings reveal that an attack on Bitcoin would require the purchase of approximately 7 million ASIC miners, a venture that could exceed $20 billion, significantly outweighing any potential gains from the attack. This cost estimation takes into account the market’s reaction to such a large-scale acquisition of ASICs.

The Prohibitive Costs of Attacking Bitcoin and Ethereum

Similarly, targeting Ethereum would be even more costly, estimated at over $34 billion. This figure is based on Ethereum’s current metrics, including its price, the total amount of staked ETH, and the number of validators. The complexity of carrying out such an attack on Ethereum is further compounded by its PoS mechanism, which has a churn limit preventing the immediate deployment of a large amount of stake, extending the time required for an attack to over six months.

Another aspect explored in the study is the potential risk posed by Liquid Staking Derivatives (LSDs), such as those offered by staking services like Lido and RocketPool. Lido, which controls a significant portion of staked ETH, poses a theoretical risk to Ethereum’s network security. However, Nuzzi clarifies that leveraging LSDs to manipulate block templates is not a viable strategy for attackers.

LSDs and Network Security: Dispelling the Myths

The research concludes that the costs associated with carrying out a 51% attack on either Bitcoin or Ethereum far outweigh any potential benefits. This economic disincentive, coupled with the technical challenges involved, makes such attacks highly improbable and reinforces the security and resilience of these leading blockchain networks. The findings provide reassurance to investors and participants in the cryptocurrency ecosystem about the robustness of these digital currencies against potential threats.


So hopefully Ethereum ETF is denied price drops and it’s a great buy opportunity!

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« Reply #10629 on: April 04, 2024, 06:24:27 AM »
Quote from: Marty Champions on April 03, 2024, 07:38:19 AM

"Hasnt done anything in 6 years but go down, if you cash out thats 30 percent in taxes so youre at a net loss or you dont pay the tax and go to jail?"

If you claim you made your entire investment into BTC on exactly 12 November 2021, you are either a liar, a fool, (or incredibly unlucky). And even if you did, had you just kept DCA'ing you would be well up (indeed as you would be had you just DCA'd from at any time after this thread started).

Second, in general we don't "cash out", going from a supreme asset, to back to declining fiat currency. We hodl and stack and chill. But either way, any Bitcoiner of any substance either lives in a jurisdiction where no capital gains is paid, or finds ways to hold freedom money in a way that the Government is not aware who owns it (unless of course they want to pay taxes, which is always their choice). Further, such taxes you mention, are imposed in the US on all asset classes, (all of which BTC has outperformed over since the start of this thread).

Stop making a fool out of yourself, learn more about Bitcoin (and improve your spelling and grammar). All these tips will help bring you success.

Its really quite sad posters like this. Same type of guy whining every time from 1K up to now 60K at all the little dips along  the way, It should really be quite obvious. BTC goes up, OVER TIME. When there is a dip, FTFD!

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« Reply #10630 on: April 05, 2024, 01:16:49 AM »
A strong criticism of the seemingly endless ongoing changes within that spaghetti mess that is ETH.

ETH is now down 16% to BTC last 6 months, and appears poised to continue to decline. This clip explains a little further...

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« Reply #10631 on: April 05, 2024, 02:08:15 AM »
price has fallen to 2018 level , brilliant!

Hasnt done anything in 6 years but go down, if you cash out thats 30 percent in taxes so youre at a net loss or you dont pay the tax and go to jail
Lol your post is funny. Have you looked at the charts?! It's up more than 6X from the 2018 price levels.

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« Reply #10632 on: April 05, 2024, 02:10:43 AM »
Just as I suspected, Solana transactions are failing at record levels. I saw those failed transactions on Solana Beach. Looks like they are having trouble coping with all the spam.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/solana-struggling-record-seventy-five-percent-trasnactions-fail-memecoin-mania

Solana struggles: Record 75% of user txs are failing... or are they?

The Solana network appears to be struggling to keep up with a ravenous demand for memecoins, with data showing roughly 75% of transactions on the network currently failing.

Roughly three-quarters of all transactions on the Solana network have been failing amid a deluge of activity brought by the recent memecoin mania on Solana; however, proponents say the data is being widely misinterpreted.

Dune Analytics data shows that on April 4, just over 75% of all “non-vote” Solana transactions failed, the highest failure rate on record.



75.4% of non-vote transactions on Solana have failed. Source: Dune Analytics

The uptick has been paralleled by a recent uproar from Solana users on social media, complaining of failed transactions and degraded user experience.

In an April 4 post to X, pseudonymous trader Altcoin Sherpa said that while he still believed Solana would cement itself as the blockchain network for retail adoption, he noted that the current user experience was currently less than ideal.

“As much as I think that SOL is the chain for retail this cycle — the experience is f---ing brutal lately.”

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« Reply #10633 on: April 05, 2024, 02:22:53 AM »
A strong criticism of the seemingly endless ongoing changes within that spaghetti mess that is ETH.

ETH is now down 16% to BTC last 6 months, and appears poised to continue to decline. This clip explains a little further...

&t=297s
And to think that's after all the ETF inflows Bitcoin experienced. I would not brag about those numbers. I just checked the 3-month chart and BTC is up 50.52% and ETH is up 43.92%. I am staking ETH so let's add in my 3% yield. So from my point of view it is 50.52% vs 47%. And remember Bitcoin is getting constant airwaves on the mainstream channels. Many people have not even heard of Ethereum. Bitcoin is known by Kennedy's shoeshine boys.

There's also constant FUD coming from Maxi's like you. You're smoking crack if you think Bitcoin will be able to compete with Ethereum as far as smart contracts go. There are 400 Bitcoin developers vs over 4,000 Ethereum developers. That's a lot more brain power and experience plugging away at the Ethereum ecosystem.

Ethereum's user fees also dwarfs Bitcoin.

Financials: Ethereum generated $2.4 billion in user fees last year vs $796 million for bitcoin. On the expense side, the Bitcoin network paid out $9.7 billion in token incentives to its miners. Ethereum paid out only $1.39 billion in token incentives over the same period.

https://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-indices/2024/02/28/think-beyond-bitcoin-ethereums-use-cases-and-latest-technology/

Yes, the FUD might bring the ETH price down more. That's what's needed for Bitcoin Maxi's to feel great - lol! We'll see what happens the next few years.

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« Reply #10634 on: April 05, 2024, 03:23:22 AM »
Ivan makes great points here in this latest video. He says you can't compare SOL and ETH. He also advocates for less tribalism and I agree on that. The Solana team is working hard to fix the spamming issue. It will be great if they figure it out. The Ethereum developers decided not to try and fight it. Ethereum L1 has high fees and is like a cockroach that can't die. Spamming will be too expensive on ETH L1 - which is why Blackrock went with that for the BUIDL fund. They don't care about high fees, they want stability and security. The ETH L2s will have to figure out spamming like the SOL developers.


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« Reply #10635 on: April 05, 2024, 05:53:28 AM »
Just as I suspected, Solana transactions are failing at record levels. I saw those failed transactions on Solana Beach. Looks like they are having trouble coping with all the spam.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/solana-struggling-record-seventy-five-percent-trasnactions-fail-memecoin-mania

Solana struggles: Record 75% of user txs are failing... or are they?

The Solana network appears to be struggling to keep up with a ravenous demand for memecoins, with data showing roughly 75% of transactions on the network currently failing.

Roughly three-quarters of all transactions on the Solana network have been failing amid a deluge of activity brought by the recent memecoin mania on Solana; however, proponents say the data is being widely misinterpreted.

Dune Analytics data shows that on April 4, just over 75% of all “non-vote” Solana transactions failed, the highest failure rate on record.



75.4% of non-vote transactions on Solana have failed. Source: Dune Analytics

The uptick has been paralleled by a recent uproar from Solana users on social media, complaining of failed transactions and degraded user experience.

In an April 4 post to X, pseudonymous trader Altcoin Sherpa said that while he still believed Solana would cement itself as the blockchain network for retail adoption, he noted that the current user experience was currently less than ideal.

“As much as I think that SOL is the chain for retail this cycle — the experience is f---ing brutal lately.”

That is quite shocking I must say. And makes me think people really are betting on Sol primarily just as a cyclical alt, rather than any true fundamentals.

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« Reply #10636 on: April 05, 2024, 06:00:10 AM »
And to think that's after all the ETF inflows Bitcoin experienced. I would not brag about those numbers. I just checked the 3-month chart and BTC is up 50.52% and ETH is up 43.92%. I am staking ETH so let's add in my 3% yield. So from my point of view it is 50.52% vs 47%. And remember Bitcoin is getting constant airwaves on the mainstream channels. Many people have not even heard of Ethereum. Bitcoin is known by Kennedy's shoeshine boys.

Yes, the FUD might bring the ETH price down more. That's what's needed for Bitcoin Maxi's to feel great - lol! We'll see what happens the next few years.

I would say ETH has performed quite appallingly, at least for the many ETH fanboys who were predicting 5x returns vs BTC based on prior cycles. Reality is they were taught a lesson any alt can outperform BTC coming from a much lower market cap and with a good story. Reality is that ETH now is not even at 1:1 performance with BTC, and that is despite still being much smaller than BTC, and with a inflows in BTC value easily deployable by any degen to ETH. It hasn't happened. The degens are looking totally past ETH, to Sol which they see as the "blue chip" alt to BTC in this cycle, and to Doggies wig hats etc.

Every cycle, lessons are learned. What we have ahead of us  could well be a slow bleed of value from ETH into BTC. Time will tell if that continues. May 23 might provide a boost (Eth ETF), but I think its far more likely this date will add further disappointment. The next big thing for future cycles will be layer 2's on BTC.

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« Reply #10637 on: April 05, 2024, 06:19:50 AM »
That is quite shocking I must say. And makes me think people really are betting on Sol primarily just as a cyclical alt, rather than any true fundamentals.

Majority (90% plus) of those failed transactions are bots trying to do arbitrage. A human user can bypass the failed transaction issue by setting their transaction fee a little higher than default. In that regards user experience is still very good.

The issue for users is when they want to exit the Solana ecosystem. Fees for transfers are set and can't be adjusted so attempts at transferring are failing at high rates. Should be an easy fix for developers, but for the time being its pretty big screw up.

I would say ETH has performed quite appallingly, at least for the many ETH fanboys who were predicting 5x returns vs BTC based on prior cycles. Reality is they were taught a lesson any alt can outperform BTC coming from a much lower market cap and with a good story. Reality is that ETH now is not even at 1:1 performance with BTC, and that is despite still being much smaller than BTC, and with a inflows in BTC value easily deployable by any degen to ETH. It hasn't happened. The degens are looking totally past ETH, to Sol which they see as the "blue chip" alt to BTC in this cycle, and to Doggies wig hats etc.

Every cycle, lessons are learned. What we have ahead of us is a slow bleed of value from ETH into BTC. Time will tell if that continues. May 23 might provide a boost (Eth ETF), but I think its far more likely this date will add further disappointment. The next big thing for future cycles will be layer 2's on BTC.

The lesson is in the last cycle as it looks to be no different than what happened last cycle. Early bull phase binance smart chain was being favoured by degens similar to how Sol is being favoured right now.

ETH will come into it's own later just like it did last cycle. Eigen layer and monad (both huge yet to be released projects) will introduce modularity to the system. Different chains won't matter as much going forwards and that includes bitcoin L2s

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« Reply #10638 on: April 05, 2024, 12:12:44 PM »
That is quite shocking I must say. And makes me think people really are betting on Sol primarily just as a cyclical alt, rather than any true fundamentals.

Yup. It’s in total Degen this time around. The space should be embarrassed..

Retail  only cares about what animal is wearing a hat and then create 10 versions of it on each platform. This was the dilution I posted about years ago that ends up destroying the alt space as it becomes rug pull after rug pull until one is successful.

Ultimately so many coins the odds of picking well or even timing correctly are worse than simply buying BTC.

At SOL highs 100M was raised in 72hrs for ICO memecoins. No new tech, all shit wearing hats 😂

ETH will be fine, it’s just waiting on the ETF outcome is all.


FWIW I had Mar-Jul 2024 in my economic timeline for an ‘event’. We have some things heating up in the ME which is interesting, could be a proper dip ahead which will be a great opportunity.

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« Reply #10639 on: April 05, 2024, 02:39:45 PM »
If animals with hats aren't doing it for you then what about a Keyboard Cat? Turn up the Base

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« Reply #10640 on: April 05, 2024, 03:08:36 PM »
The degens are looking totally past ETH, to Sol which they see as the "blue chip" alt to BTC in this cycle, and to Doggies wig hats etc.
The degens are switching to ETH L2 BASE now because of issues with SOL.

https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/base-meme-coins-gains-surge-taking-over-solanas-trading-frenzy-202404010825

BASE meme coins’ gains surge, taking over Solana's trading frenzy

The decline in volumes suggests the meme coin frenzy on Solana – which boasted trading volumes and network usage for the network over the last month–  is slowly waning. Capital appears to be rotating to Layer 2 chains like Base, where meme coins are seeing a resurgence and a rapid increase in daily transactions, trade volume, and returns.

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« Reply #10641 on: April 05, 2024, 03:09:46 PM »
The next big thing for future cycles will be layer 2's on BTC.
Good luck with that. Ethereum has a few years head start and a 10x developer advantage.

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« Reply #10642 on: April 05, 2024, 06:45:24 PM »
If animals with hats aren't doing it for you then what about a Keyboard Cat? Turn up the Base

lol I love that crypto is full degen now.

Did you see the WIF party? Cringe but still oodles of room to go lower like the NFT crew of 2021 who were sucking off trees in the forest 😂

Are there any new cat tokens you think might have a chance?

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« Reply #10643 on: April 06, 2024, 12:59:22 AM »
lol I love that crypto is full degen now.

Did you see the WIF party? Cringe but still oodles of room to go lower like the NFT crew of 2021 who were sucking off trees in the forest 😂

Are there any new cat tokens you think might have a chance?

The cat I posted was my cat call  :D The clues are in the text. Low/Moderate conviction.

Yeah those dance moves from that party were something else LMAO, but I don't think WIF is done yet. That was actually a party for the Pandora ERC404 NFT event and they grifted WIF for more visibility.

The real WIF party is later this month, the big WIF pumper has a "celebrity" boxing match and they are putting the WIF dog on the Vegas sphere. That's probably the Elon Saturday Night Live peak moment for it. The video doing the rounds now is just the last shake out before they run WIF hard.

If the bull run is still intact next few weeks sees BTC still going sideways, ALTs and shitters running, even ETH may catch bids then a push for rotation into BTC and it runs like a Sol shitcoin.

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« Reply #10644 on: April 06, 2024, 02:30:22 AM »
The cat I posted was my cat call  :D The clues are in the text. Low/Moderate conviction.

Yeah those dance moves from that party were something else LMAO, but I don't think WIF is done yet. That was actually a party for the Pandora ERC404 NFT event and they grifted WIF for more visibility.

The real WIF party is later this month, the big WIF pumper has a "celebrity" boxing match and they are putting the WIF dog on the Vegas sphere. That's probably the Elon Saturday Night Live peak moment for it. The video doing the rounds now is just the last shake out before they run WIF hard.

If the bull run is still intact next few weeks sees BTC still going sideways, ALTs and shitters running, even ETH may catch bids then a push for rotation into BTC and it runs like a Sol shitcoin.

Got it, cheers. Worth a shot. The memes are all cat based so why the fascination with dogs in tokens I have no idea. Cats could easily get right up there.

I’m waiting on this ETH ETF and timing which my assumption is August. I had the S&P target at 5,300 and BTC peak price window out to end of April. I had an event window Mar-Jul 2024 where I figure a short painful mid year sharemarket correction will take place.

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« Reply #10645 on: April 06, 2024, 03:33:40 AM »
Got it, cheers. Worth a shot. The memes are all cat based so why the fascination with dogs in tokens I have no idea. Cats could easily get right up there.

I’m waiting on this ETH ETF and timing which my assumption is August. I had the S&P target at 5,300 and BTC peak price window out to end of April. I had an event window Mar-Jul 2024 where I figure a short painful mid year sharemarket correction will take place.

August for ETH ETF looks good. Blackrock and JPMorgan are already laying down the foundations for the litigation process if it's denied in May.

One FED speaker said there might be no rate cuts this year (he might be right, but he probably shouldn't have said it) and that dropped the market with some saying the SPX high for the year is already in.

He speaks again on Monday, so might walk back his comments and wreck bears again. If he doesn't then I'm gonna start planning my exit over the next few weeks, but I'm finding it incredibly difficult to be anything but bullish on bitcoin.

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« Reply #10646 on: April 06, 2024, 12:40:38 PM »
August for ETH ETF looks good. Blackrock and JPMorgan are already laying down the foundations for the litigation process if it's denied in May.

One FED speaker said there might be no rate cuts this year (he might be right, but he probably shouldn't have said it) and that dropped the market with some saying the SPX high for the year is already in.

He speaks again on Monday, so might walk back his comments and wreck bears again. If he doesn't then I'm gonna start planning my exit over the next few weeks, but I'm finding it incredibly difficult to be anything but bullish on bitcoin.

So, 23 May not looking good anymore?... :)

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« Reply #10647 on: April 06, 2024, 01:17:07 PM »
So, 23 May not looking good anymore?... :)

It's not looked good for ages, but neither has ETH. The play was the ETH ecosystem.

It seems US ETH holders have been of the belief that the ETF will make them square when all along the money to be made from ETH was in adding ETH liquidity to ETH L2s and other ETH ecosystem protocols and then waiting for big fat juicy airdrops. US citizens are also being kept out of all the juicy staking APRs. They are only getting 3 to 5% whilst the rest of the world  can collect 20% plus via various defi restaking protocols.

I don't wanna say ETH ecosystem devs used US ETH holders/stakers for a exit liquidity, but it could end up feeling that way if the ETF eventually gets approved and a grayscale ETHE sell off exceeds any buying from the other ETFs. ETH price goes sideways and all the "free" L2 airdrop coins go parabolic.

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« Reply #10648 on: April 06, 2024, 04:00:01 PM »
It's not looked good for ages, but neither has ETH. The play was the ETH ecosystem.

It seems US ETH holders have been of the belief that the ETF will make them square when all along the money to be made from ETH was in adding ETH liquidity to ETH L2s and other ETH ecosystem protocols and then waiting for big fat juicy airdrops. US citizens are also being kept out of all the juicy staking APRs. They are only getting 3 to 5% whilst the rest of the world  can collect 20% plus via various defi restaking protocols.

I don't wanna say ETH ecosystem devs used US ETH holders/stakers for a exit liquidity, but it could end up feeling that way if the ETF eventually gets approved and a grayscale ETHE sell off exceeds any buying from the other ETFs. ETH price goes sideways and all the "free" L2 airdrop coins go parabolic.
ETH has been fine. I've been earning steady staking yields. ETH L1 is a cockroach that's rock solid. Zoom out though. For the past 3 years ETH is up 57.79% vs BTC at 15.29%.

Will BTC outrun ETH in the short term? Sure. Long term I am bullish on Ethereum. I also think Proof Of Work will become an issue for Bitcoin - I will not be surprised by this at all. As the miners keep getting less and less rewards it might centralize more where a few entities are securing the network. Governments might also start bitching about the excessive energy consumption.

I was a Proof of Work miner of Ethereum for 4 years. I did it, but I think it is moronic compared to Proof of Stake.

Recent research indicated it will cost more to attack the Ethereum network vs Bitcoin. Ethereum is actually more decentralized and secure than Bitcoin. And it is cheaper to run.

Lido's market share fell below 30%, making Ethereum staking more decentralized.

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/24/04/38092815/jpmorgan-says-ethereum-could-avoid-security-label-amid-decreasing-lido-share

JPMorgan Says Ethereum Could Avoid 'Security' Label Amid Decreasing Lido Share

The declining market share of Lido, Ethereum's largest liquid staking protocol, indicates that Ethereum would likely avoid being classified as a security in the future, according to JPMorgan analysts. "The share of Lido in staked ETH has decreased further from around one third a year ago to around a quarter at the moment" JPMorgan analysts, led by Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou, wrote in a report on Wednesday.

"This should reduce concerns about concentration in the Ethereum network, thus raising the chance that Ethereum will avoid being designated as security in the future."

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« Reply #10649 on: April 06, 2024, 04:35:54 PM »
Regarding this ^^^^^^^^^^^^

If Bitcoin eventually moves to Proof of Stake the 21 million cap might have been to reconsidered. Because stakers will want a yield. Unless the yield is taken from the 21 million cap, which means each BTC holder will have to be content with their holdings being reduced and given to the stakers. Yeah, that won't work.

There's an idea floating around to reduce ETH issuance further. The inflation ticked up the past day, most likely due to inactivity. It has been deflationary since Dencun lowered the L2 fees. We'll have to see how the tokenomics holds up over time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ethereum-foundation-researchers-proposal-to-slow-eth-issuance-draws-pushback/ar-BB1l8QUM