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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11075 on: July 31, 2024, 10:37:57 AM »
very interesting to see that bitcoin was not really affected by the recent correction in growth stocks. Don't know what to make of it, but we are in a period where bitcoin volatility seems to be lower than in the past.

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« Reply #11076 on: July 31, 2024, 11:02:42 AM »
After 447 pages of nonsense, everything u need to know in 7 minutes.


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« Reply #11077 on: August 01, 2024, 03:07:04 PM »
WTF?!

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bots-pushing-solana-over-ethereum-research

Bots suspected of pushing Solana over Ethereum — Research
Solana overtakes Ethereum on numerous metrics, but research finds its performance to be inorganic.

Solana has overtaken Ethereum on various metrics this week, but a recent research article on X claims that most of this activity is conducted by bots.

The article, published by pseudonymous researcher Flip Research on July 30, found a suspiciously high count of daily transactions per user on Solana.

Solana recorded an average of 217 transactions per user on July 26 across 1.3 million active addresses. In comparison, Ethereum only recorded less than three transactions per user across 376,300 active users.

“What’s clear is there’s a massive discrepancy, combined with a high amount of MEV and wash trading,” Flip Research told Cointelegraph.


According to Blockworks Research, Solana’s $25 million in total fees in the week of July 22 surpassed Ethereum’s total fees of $21 million. Solana also clocked the highest 30-day decentralized exchange (DEX) volume in the industry.

In the seven days to July 30, Raydium led Solana’s DEX trading volume with $6.078 billion. Orca and Phoenix trailed with $3.428 billion and $1.144 billion, respectively.

Countless liquidity pools on Raydium have little to no liquidity but generate unreal trading volumes. For example, the FLOG-SOL pool held just $3 in liquidity but had over $5 million in 24-hour trading volume.

Flip Research’s analysis of these low liquidity pools suggests that they are rug-pulled projects, a common type of exit scam that has been rising in popularity among memecoin scammers.


Solana’s bot volume has been around all year
Bots can operate at a restless pace that humans can’t, and their automated trades have been pumping volumes on Solana all year.

In February, the network’s monthly stablecoin volume surpassed $643 billion. Most of the stablecoin volume came from USD Coin USDC transactions on Phoenix, a Solana DEX.

Cointelegraph Magazine’s February analysis of blockchain transactions on Phoenix transactions found that the majority of the volume came from bots.

These automated traders have been a double-edged sword for Solana, as their activities have resulted in favorable metrics at the expense of the network’s health.

By April 2024, developers responded to congestion issued by releasing a mainnet update, though Flip Research’s findings suggest that bot activity is still rampant in the network.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11078 on: August 04, 2024, 04:32:02 PM »


Oh dear…….

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« Reply #11079 on: August 04, 2024, 06:16:40 PM »


Oh deary deary me…..

Bullish selling strikes again……

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« Reply #11080 on: August 04, 2024, 06:53:08 PM »
WOW! Just checked https://ultrasound.money/ and ETH deflation is at -8.52% at a zoomed in time frame! Let's panic sell some more so it can burn. Then when the dip is bought let's burn some more on the way up. I hope all paper hands sell on L1 - lol!

Ethereum is down almost 20%. Getting hit with the Grayscale outflows and the overall market sentiment. Let's see where it settles. Of course I am not selling. I'll ride it down to zero if needed  ;D

News like this doesn't help either: Iranian Politician Says Tehran Might Already Have Nukes

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« Reply #11081 on: August 04, 2024, 06:57:57 PM »

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« Reply #11083 on: August 04, 2024, 08:27:46 PM »
WOW! Just checked https://ultrasound.money/ and ETH deflation is at -8.52% at a zoomed in time frame! Let's panic sell some more so it can burn. Then when the dip is bought let's burn some more on the way up. I hope all paper hands sell on L1 - lol!

Ethereum is down almost 20%. Getting hit with the Grayscale outflows and the overall market sentiment. Let's see where it settles. Of course I am not selling. I'll ride it down to zero if needed  ;D

News like this doesn't help either: Iranian Politician Says Tehran Might Already Have Nukes


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« Reply #11084 on: August 05, 2024, 01:11:32 AM »
I said it before, and now I hope a lesson has been learned. Engage in shitcoinery and you will be burned...

There is only one Bitcoin. There are an infinite number of shit coins.

HODL BTC, and long term you will thrive. How hard can that be?

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« Reply #11085 on: August 06, 2024, 12:34:49 AM »

V SHAPE RECOVERY  ;D

Selling because of a 20-25% correction is pathetic. And then you have to pay capital gains taxes.

Let's say you have $10,000 worth of crypto token
It dumps 25% down to $7,500. You sell and pay 20% capital gains tax, or $1,500. You now have $6,000 left.
It pumps back to $10,000. If you buy back in you'll end up with 60% of your original stack. + The time lost trading and paying taxes.

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« Reply #11086 on: August 06, 2024, 01:35:48 AM »
V SHAPE RECOVERY  ;D

Selling because of a 20-25% correction is pathetic. And then you have to pay capital gains taxes.

Let's say you have $10,000 worth of crypto token
It dumps 25% down to $7,500. You sell and pay 20% capital gains tax, or $1,500. You now have $6,000 left.
It pumps back to $10,000. If you buy back in you'll end up with 60% of your original stack. + The time lost trading and paying taxes.

A small correction -  Only of those who are in countries which impose income or capital gains taxes, and who in such countries wish to comply with the law (and/or who have not structured their affairs correctly) will need to pay taxes.

Those of us who are in countries which do not impose income or capital gains taxes will not need to pay taxes.
 
I find it ironic that people use BTC as a way to defend against a devaluing currency, but then fail to structure themselves in a way that any "gain" they make in their BTC value is not taken away by taxes. Think about - its totally illogical...

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« Reply #11087 on: August 06, 2024, 01:37:06 AM »
After 447 pages of nonsense, everything u need to know in 7 minutes.



I have explained it many times - fiat currency is the scam - Bitcoin is our defense against that.

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« Reply #11088 on: August 06, 2024, 01:41:10 AM »
Just look and observe at the BTC to ETH price ratio. You will see ETH continues to decline. (Had a little pop on ETF hope, which turns out to be a real dud, and now has resumed its continued downward trend. Eth is now down 24% to BTC since the beginning of the year, and this is likely to continue. So we might well be looking at down 35-50% BTC by year end.


Little update - ETH is now down 29% to BTC since beginning of year....

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« Reply #11089 on: August 06, 2024, 04:48:47 AM »
V SHAPE RECOVERY  ;D

Selling because of a 20-25% correction is pathetic. And then you have to pay capital gains taxes.

Let's say you have $10,000 worth of crypto token
It dumps 25% down to $7,500. You sell and pay 20% capital gains tax, or $1,500. You now have $6,000 left.
It pumps back to $10,000. If you buy back in you'll end up with 60% of your original stack. + The time lost trading and paying taxes.

 :D

Hilarious how they panic every single time though, like these dips/corrections/dumps are something new.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11090 on: August 06, 2024, 05:15:17 AM »
Ethereum ETFs Scored $49M Inflows as ETH Plunged

Despite a sharp 20% drop in price, U.S.-listed spot ether exchange-traded funds (ETFs) saw net inflows of nearly $49 million on Monday, indicating strong demand.

Professional investors bought the dip, however. Data tracked by SoSoValue shows ETH ETFs traded over $715 million, the highest since July 30.

BlackRock’s ETHA led inflows at $47 million. Fidelity’s FETH and VanEck’s ETHV recorded $16 million in inflows each.

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/08/06/ethereum-etfs-scored-49m-inflows-as-eth-plunged/

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11091 on: August 06, 2024, 05:57:04 AM »
I said it before, and now I hope a lesson has been learned. Engage in shitcoinery and you will be burned...

There is only one Bitcoin. There are an infinite number of shit coins.

HODL BTC, and long term you will thrive. How hard can that be?

Keep stacking Satoshis!!!

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« Reply #11092 on: August 06, 2024, 07:45:21 AM »
How's that ''ETH is a security'' narrative going?  ;D




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« Reply #11093 on: August 06, 2024, 01:06:11 PM »
How's that ''ETH is a security'' narrative going?  ;D


HAHA! I forgot about that.

Gib - what's up with your prediction on how the Shitcoin ETH was going to be declared a security and never have a Spot ETF?! Don't you realize people want to make money on projects other than Bitcoin?

Bitcoin has outperformed Ethereum lately. We've seen this play out before. But that can always turn the other way. We've seen before how volatile the market can be. The Bitcoin price crashed 18% after the Spot ETFs started to trade because of Grayscale outflows. But market sentiment was not as negative as it is now. Ethereum saw a huge price dip and ETF investors bought the dip. Justin Sun loaded up on more Ethereum. Overall negative Ethereum sentiment is bullish. You get worried when everyone shills something.

At Current Prices:
Since its inception, Bitcoin has been up 1.18 million %.
Since its inception, Ethereum has been up 595,138 %.

At ATH Prices:
ETH historic low = $0.42 cents
ETH ATH = +/- $4,896.88

Increase = 1,16 million %

Ethereum has 6x the supply of Bitcoin. I am surprised the total percentage gain is comparable to Bitcoin.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11094 on: August 07, 2024, 02:17:13 AM »
V SHAPE RECOVERY  ;D

Selling because of a 20-25% correction is pathetic. And then you have to pay capital gains taxes.

Let's say you have $10,000 worth of crypto token
It dumps 25% down to $7,500. You sell and pay 20% capital gains tax, or $1,500. You now have $6,000 left.
It pumps back to $10,000. If you buy back in you'll end up with 60% of your original stack. + The time lost trading and paying taxes.

My feed is full of overjoyed bullish people.

It seems nobody gasps what it means for the cycle which is good for me and good for gib.

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« Reply #11095 on: August 07, 2024, 05:25:22 AM »
How's that ''ETH is a security'' narrative going?  ;D



Well the narrative remains the same (and we are of course seeing that played out in how Eth is being valued by the market in comparison to both BTC and newer "alts").

If something looks like shit, and smells like shit... well it probably is shit. And no matter what you call it, of how you serve it, or what you wrap it up in, eventually the market figures out that it still is just shit.

Now, applying this concept to ETH, I think its almost unanimous that ETC has failed in its "the new Bitcoin", "its a better store of value than Bitcoin", etc narrative that once drove investment into it. As Eth's issuance schedule was repeatedly changed, and as it moved from POW to POS, and as more people became aware of the key man risk of Vitalik, and the control of the "Eth foundation", the fact that Eth's characteristics can be changed as the whim of a single person, the massive pre-mining issuance, involvement of Vitalik's mother running Eth related scams, etc, it became extremely obvious to all that Eth is not, and does not in any way function as a commodity in the way BTC does.

As I have explained many times before, Eth has all the qualities of a security. Now that itself does not make it inherently "bad" but the problem that investors are now realizing with such characteristics you need to value Eth as you would any other company. And that in turn is why its value is slowly bleeding both into BTC (which is continuing to function beautifully as a true commodity), and into the other infinite number of alternative "crypto securities".

Did I expect ETH to be approved for an ETF? No. And should it have been approved under an application of existing US securities laws? No. But for whatever reason, the SEC gave up the fight to enforce the law. But either way, does the ETF wrapper change its fundamental characteristics? No, of course not. And this is why we are now seeing this constant decline in its value and desirability.

So, to answer your question, that's how the narrative is going.. :)

Oh - and by the way, Eth now down over 30% to BTC over the last year, which even to a die-hard Eth fanboy, should make this all quite clear, especially given Eth's much smaller market cap compared to Eth, Eth's younger age, Eth's ETF approval, and ETH's supposedly"better technology"...


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« Reply #11096 on: August 07, 2024, 10:47:34 PM »
Well the narrative remains the same (and we are of course seeing that played out in how Eth is being valued by the market in comparison to both BTC and newer "alts").

If something looks like shit, and smells like shit... well it probably is shit. And no matter what you call it, of how you serve it, or what you wrap it up in, eventually the market figures out that it still is just shit.

Now, applying this concept to ETH, I think its almost unanimous that ETC has failed in its "the new Bitcoin", "its a better store of value than Bitcoin", etc narrative that once drove investment into it. As Eth's issuance schedule was repeatedly changed, and as it moved from POW to POS, and as more people became aware of the key man risk of Vitalik, and the control of the "Eth foundation", the fact that Eth's characteristics can be changed as the whim of a single person, the massive pre-mining issuance, involvement of Vitalik's mother running Eth related scams, etc, it became extremely obvious to all that Eth is not, and does not in any way function as a commodity in the way BTC does.

As I have explained many times before, Eth has all the qualities of a security. Now that itself does not make it inherently "bad" but the problem that investors are now realizing with such characteristics you need to value Eth as you would any other company. And that in turn is why its value is slowly bleeding both into BTC (which is continuing to function beautifully as a true commodity), and into the other infinite number of alternative "crypto securities".

Did I expect ETH to be approved for an ETF? No. And should it have been approved under an application of existing US securities laws? No. But for whatever reason, the SEC gave up the fight to enforce the law. But either way, does the ETF wrapper change its fundamental characteristics? No, of course not. And this is why we are now seeing this constant decline in its value and desirability.

So, to answer your question, that's how the narrative is going.. :)

Oh - and by the way, Eth now down over 30% to BTC over the last year, which even to a die-hard Eth fanboy, should make this all quite clear, especially given Eth's much smaller market cap compared to Eth, Eth's younger age, Eth's ETF approval, and ETH's supposedly"better technology"...
ETH is down currently because of Grayscale selling pressure along with FUD and Jump trading selling off. I have no doubt it will recover eventually. If you're a short-term investor then good luck. I am looking at this 10-20 years out. We'll compare notes again much later - lol!

https://cointelegraph.com/news/jump-trading-sells-29m-ether-bottom-near

I disagree that ETH looks like shit. The fundamentals are great. It's rock solid, never shuts down like Solana, is probably more decentralized than Bitcoin, more difficult to attack. Fees on L2 are super low. Dencun was a huge success. The inflation is lower currently than Bitcoin's. Staking is at an all-time high. These are growing pains. Ethereum has started to see some positive ETF inflows to cancel out the Grayscale outflows. Remember Bitcoin had this same issue. The Grayscale outflows might pick up again if the ETH price recovers more. It's part of the game. The ETF investors are probably loving the discounted value. They would be overjoyed if Ethereum went below $2,000.

There is a huge question mark for me over Bitcoin's mining economy / viability long-term. Mining has been unprofitable in 2024. The current average BTC mining cost is $82,007 vs the BTC price of $56,896.

Think of what you're asking of miners. You expect them to keep mining and securing Bitcoin while losing $25,000 per BTC that they mine. They would be better off buying. But Bitcoin does not function without miners. They are needed to confirm the transactions. You said the difficulty would adjust to make it profitable again. But it has not. And this is in 2024. What happens in 2028, 2032, 2036?! The miner rewards would half every 4 years meaning the cost to mine BTC would double unless energy and hardware become much cheaper. Right now it ain't profitable to mine BTC. Would you mine if it was unprofitable? So why should anyone else?

Meanwhile, with Ethereum, the validators do use electricity but nothing like ASIC miners. And Liquid staking means you don't have to worry about hardware or electrical bills by paying a fee to the staking providers.

Ethereum is not a security, period. There are no investment contracts, and solo staking requires physical work to maintain the validators. With liquid staking you pay a fee for which the staking provider perform work for you. It is not a free ride. If I buy a pizza I pay the restaurant for making it. How is that different than paying a staking provider via a fee for setting up the validators?

https://en.macromicro.me/charts/29435/bitcoin-production-total-cost

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« Reply #11097 on: August 08, 2024, 12:10:27 AM »
Solana will replace Ethereum.

Solana's ability to repair any failure is unmatched.
The Mainnet is becoming more and more resilient and is not even in Prod yet.
Firedancer will be deployed between Q4 and Q2 2025 and Solana
will exploit its full potential, that means everything Ethereum does
without multilayer, huge cost and slowness.

The Solana consensus mechanism is leaving Bitcoin and Ethereum in the dust by delivering an unparalleled blend of speed, scalability, and security. If you’re curious about what makes Solana’s consensus mechanism so special, here’s the quick scoop:


High-Speed Transactions: Capable of handling thousands of transactions per second.
-Decentralized Applications (dApps): Facilitating a rich ecosystem of decentralized applications.
-Proof of History (PoH): Using cryptographic timestamps for faster blockchain synchronization.
-Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS): Combining security and efficiency.

The Solana blockchain stands out for its ability to support high-speed transactions, which is a game-changer for decentralized applications. Unlike Bitcoin’s slow Proof of Work (PoW) or Ethereum’s now Proof of Stake (PoS) systems, Solana’s unique combination of Proof of History (PoH) and Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS) creates a highly efficient and scalable network.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11098 on: August 08, 2024, 01:32:38 AM »
ETH ETF investors would be loving a 2,000 price?

If you say they like making a loss, they’re going to be super happy soon…..

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« Reply #11099 on: August 08, 2024, 01:45:22 AM »
Great news for Eth believers. Eth is now down 32% to BTC over the last year. )

Obsidian - Yes, Solana is crap, but shitcoiners have no loyalty - they move from shit coin to shit coin chasing profits (and so hence we see the slow bleed from Eth to Sol and alts, (or from Eth to BTC, for those who now see the light...).