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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11950 on: March 04, 2025, 05:26:37 PM »
Ignore the crypto announcements. It's mostly irrelevant, but good optics.

D.O.G.E and removing that bloat will lead to a private sector boom and a blow off top for the ages. Also doomers seem to be forgetting that the money printer won't stay on ice forever.


Yeah the announcements are good sound bites but Trump has to force speculative money out of commodities and into non-CPI instruments. I’ll use too many words if I try and outline it. I bet 100% on my revised strategy, fuck it, it worked in 2020 😂

Money printer is done and dusted. They printed the entire decade upfront so it could be switched off. QE won’t be QE as we last saw it. It’s like ordering 52 pizzas in week1, freezing them, defrosting 1 a week while bragging you wont order pizza for the rest of the year.

4yrs later some things are clearer than in 2020. My retardedness sees today being planned back in 2016.

Nobody considering the US vaults having more Gold.50yrs of confiscation from world domination….. just sayin….  Imagine the US then announce a sell off to pay down US debt. Then begins the secular Gold bear market……

Event window giving us the goods so far 👍   A drone blew a hole in Chernobyl which they can’t fix. A minor thing but it might come up later.

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« Reply #11951 on: March 05, 2025, 01:43:20 AM »
That didn't age well - and it's barely a couple of hours old ;D

This idiot post of yours, I GAURANTEE, will not age well, when the price of BTC is 10x of my little top up at 84K.

Your post really personifies the small mindedness of a person, who still after 16 years, cannot understand that BTC rises for ever (as long as additional money is printed for ever).

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11952 on: March 05, 2025, 01:56:28 AM »
This idiot post of yours, I GAURANTEE, will not age well, when the price of BTC is 10x of my little top up at 84K.

Your post really personifies the small mindedness of a person, who still after 16 years, cannot understand that BTC rises for ever (as long as additional money is printed for ever).

Don’t worry gib, sidelined gunna get destroyed 😉

Move already started. Price is lagged.

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« Reply #11953 on: March 05, 2025, 02:02:22 AM »
Don’t worry gib, sidelined gunna get destroyed 😉

Move already started. Price is lagged.

Yeah all good. Just blows my mind that after 8 years of this thread, 479 pages etc, there are still some people who just don't get it

I am thinking, at some point if I have time, to distill the best posts into a single TLDR document for those too lazy to do the work...

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« Reply #11954 on: March 05, 2025, 08:38:41 AM »

Money printer is done and dusted.

Trumps policies could force the FEDs hands

Either way short term pain (could be weeks, could be months) before the bull run

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« Reply #11955 on: March 05, 2025, 09:02:18 AM »
You seem not to understand MSTR's business. They ACCUMULATE BTC. They want more BTC (not less), so they will not do any dumping of BTC. Rather they acquire and Hodl. However, yes, they do want (and benefit), both from BTC rising in fiat terms (or fiat falling in BTC terms), and so obviously they want to see others adopt BTC over time also. But to clear, Saylor and MSTR see BTC as rising for ever.

Accumulating smth with no intrinsic value only makes sense if u wanna dump it on someone else at one point. That's what guys like you - the buyers at 80k+ - are here for ;D

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« Reply #11956 on: March 05, 2025, 10:15:17 AM »
Accumulating smth with no intrinsic value only makes sense if u wanna dump it on someone else at one point. That's what guys like you - the buyers at 80k+ - are here for ;D

Blows the mind that from 3k, to 90K, you still don't get it. I wonder if you will get it at 900K?

Fiat currencies have no intrinsic value. However, they are all, infinite in supply.

BTC has no intrinsic value, but is perfectly limited in supply.

Should be obvious which is the better store of value, and why a currency of unlimited supply will move into a store of value perfectly limited in supply (combined with all the other properties BTC has, in terms of divisibility, transferability, self custody, etc).

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« Reply #11957 on: March 05, 2025, 09:44:14 PM »
That didn't age well - and it's barely a couple of hours old ;D

Well that didn't age well did it. Even for a short term minded gold-fish brain, I am now 10-ish% up on even my latest purchase ... barely a few days old :D

If I wanted to teach you a lesson, I would sell that latest buy now, taking a 10% gain, show you how easy it is to make money, and use that profit to buy some nice things to show off my material gains. But ultimately, that would make me the same fool you are, as the much better lesson is of course to hodl until 10x gain, as opposed to just a 10% gain.

This post will age well, and you an be very sure, I will be back to remind you of it at BTC 840K. As anyone here knows, I have a long memory, and I have no hesitation to come back cite prior posts to teach people lessons...

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« Reply #11958 on: March 06, 2025, 04:45:25 AM »
So, who believes we really will see a BSR announcement tomorrow?

And who believes it will BTC only, vs also with "American made" shitcoins?

My prediction (and again, it's just a PREDICTION, not a guarantee), is that we will see a BTC only Strategic Reserve, but then also some other regulations which in theory, may be positive from some types of company-issued tokens.

Either way, obviously, no foreign country is going to want American-made, centralized, controlled and manipulated shotcoins, with an American issuer, created without proof of work, as a store of value, for obvious reasons...

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11959 on: March 06, 2025, 12:18:12 PM »

What is a BSR? ???

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« Reply #11960 on: March 06, 2025, 04:32:54 PM »

US Govt will not acquire additional assets for stockpiling other than those forfeited.

Kind of sounds like what they already do? As in, not buying, only seizing. The only Duffy is they will hold and not sell (for now….).

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« Reply #11961 on: March 07, 2025, 02:52:15 AM »
What is a BSR? ???

Bitcoin Strategic Reserve (sometimes also called SBR - Strategic Bitcoin Reserve).

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« Reply #11962 on: March 07, 2025, 08:18:38 AM »
A BITCOIN STRATEGIC RESERVE IS CONFIRMED!
Love em or hate. Trump, so far is a man of his word -I'll give him that.

PS - For all those hoping for a ShitCoin reserve, I hope a lesson was learned...


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« Reply #11963 on: March 07, 2025, 01:07:43 PM »
A BITCOIN STRATEGIC RESERVE IS CONFIRMED!
Love em or hate. Trump, so far is a man of his word -I'll give him that.

PS - For all those hoping for a ShitCoin reserve, I hope a lesson was learned...
The US Government also holds ETH, BNB, USDT, etc. Stablecoins are becoming important to the US. And the use case will probably increase. Stablecoins might be the killer application for cryptos. Ethereum is the leading chain with 54.08% dominance.

https://crypto.news/experts-comments-amid-rlusd-and-moonpay-partnership/


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« Reply #11964 on: March 07, 2025, 01:17:59 PM »
https://x.com/spotonchain/status/1897411965397737856

Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial (@worldlibertyfi) is back to buying $ETH, $WBTC, and $MOVE!

In the past 45 minutes, the fund moved 25M $USDC to a new multi-sig wallet and purchased:

• 4,468 $ETH ($10M) at $2,238
• 110.6 $WBTC ($10M) at $90,420
• 3.42M $MOVE ($1.5M) at $0.439

3.5M $USDC remains in that new wallet—more buys incoming? Follow @spotonchain and set alerts for #WorldLibertyFi for more updates at https://platform.spotonchain.ai/en/entity/2361


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11965 on: March 07, 2025, 06:01:56 PM »
The US Government also holds ETH, BNB, USDT, etc. Stablecoins are becoming important to the US. And the use case will probably increase. Stablecoins might be the killer application for cryptos. Ethereum is the leading chain with 54.08% dominance.

https://crypto.news/experts-comments-amid-rlusd-and-moonpay-partnership/




Such an interesting look into human psyche.  Ethereum has done nothing but constantly devalue compared to Bitcoin and you still keep somehow convincing yourself things are good and ethereum is dominating.   The bottom line is right now what type of ROI are you getting on your ether vs what would your ROI be had you bought or even converted to BTC?   Still dominating?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11966 on: March 07, 2025, 10:50:21 PM »
This. Not even the ETFs and Wallstreet involvement were able to push the price significantly anymore. The desperate hope for a government bailout is now the last stage of this Ponzi, I give it a few more months. Everyone who can still run away with a solid profit should do it now, like I did after the elections ;D

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« Reply #11967 on: March 08, 2025, 01:29:17 AM »
https://x.com/spotonchain/status/1897411965397737856

Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial (@worldlibertyfi) is back to buying $ETH, $WBTC, and $MOVE!

In the past 45 minutes, the fund moved 25M $USDC to a new multi-sig wallet and purchased:

• 4,468 $ETH ($10M) at $2,238
• 110.6 $WBTC ($10M) at $90,420
• 3.42M $MOVE ($1.5M) at $0.439

3.5M $USDC remains in that new wallet—more buys incoming? Follow @spotonchain and set alerts for #WorldLibertyFi for more updates at https://platform.spotonchain.ai/en/entity/2361



My American friend, you wanna know where that money came from? Check the huge volume candle as Trump OGs dumped on plebs buying. Nuked it lower than low.

Take heed of my words earlier. This lot you keep tracking used none of their own money. They are dumping memecoins and buying ERC20 for free. It’s there to get you wrecked because you plebs keep salivating thinking it’s a signal 🤦

“You don’t know their timeframe” is exactly true. If you use free money to buy it, you give no fucks if it sits there for 200yrs. They use their own money to counter trade the plebs.

Track performance of this foundation to Saylor. See what I’m saying?

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« Reply #11968 on: March 08, 2025, 11:25:27 PM »

Such an interesting look into human psyche.  Ethereum has done nothing but constantly devalue compared to Bitcoin and you still keep somehow convincing yourself things are good and ethereum is dominating.   The bottom line is right now what type of ROI are you getting on your ether vs what would your ROI be had you bought or even converted to BTC?   Still dominating?
Bitcoin had a good run I agree. Not so much because of good fundamentals, but because of media attention, being the first blockchain, and due to Biden's SEC being vague about Ethereum's status as a commodity. It all depends on when you look at the chart. At 2022, the opposite was true. Bitcoin devalued compared to Ethereum. I took your own screenshot and wiped out recent movements to illustrate. The point is, anything is possible. Narratives change. It is risky to say things will never change and always be that way. We've all seen this is not the case.

I look at the fundamentals. Markets are irrational and I agree with Gib that some people would rather buy an overvalued asset like Bitcoin than an undervalued asset like Ethereum because they think it is safer in the longrun. They don't know about the economic security of the asset, and how that will change in a decade or two. How safe it will be in the future remains to be seen.

Bitcoin is showing some wild hashrate swings currently - very interesting. It went from a high of just over 1,000 EH/s on 2/7/25 down to a low of 700 EH/s on 2/12/25. That's a drop of 30% hashrate in less than a week! Then it goes up and down and is all over the place.

https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/bitcoin/hashrate-chart

If a manufacturer can fabricate ASIC's at $10 per TH/s, at around 13W per TH/s, then Bitcoin's economic security is around $10 billion. I've done the calculations in this thread before. 800 EH/s = 800 million TH/s. So $8-10 billion to manufacture 800 EH/s of hash power. Plus a few million per day of electrical power.

Bitcoin is cooked. Next halving, BTC miners will receive 1/2 the current BTC rewards. Then 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/128, 1/256. Etc.

20 years from now miners will get 1/32 the BTC block reward of what they get now which is 3.125 BTC per block. That's 0.09765625 BTC per block.

Ethereum does not have this dilemma. And ETH staking has not fluctuated as wildly as the BTC hash rate recently.




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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11969 on: March 09, 2025, 01:56:45 AM »
My American friend, you wanna know where that money came from? Check the huge volume candle as Trump OGs dumped on plebs buying. Nuked it lower than low.

Take heed of my words earlier. This lot you keep tracking used none of their own money. They are dumping memecoins and buying ERC20 for free. It’s there to get you wrecked because you plebs keep salivating thinking it’s a signal 🤦

“You don’t know their timeframe” is exactly true. If you use free money to buy it, you give no fucks if it sits there for 200yrs. They use their own money to counter trade the plebs.

Track performance of this foundation to Saylor. See what I’m saying?
I posted before that Trump's ETH is all house money. Yes, he got it for free from his meme token profits. But what's telling is his team did not opt for BTC as much as ETH. Apparently Trump wants to build a financial company on Ethereum. He can't do that on Bitcoin because it is a meme token with limited functionality.

Saylor looks like a genius today. How does his model work out if BTC goes back down to $50,000 or lower? Seems very risky that he is taking on debt to buy BTC. When people say “don’t mortgage your house to buy Bitcoin”, they’re warning against recklessly using leverage (debt) to invest in a highly volatile asset.

The BTC multiplier effect can work both ways, up and down.

https://apollocrypto.com/the-bitcoin-multiplier/

https://www.plutoinvest.io/post/is-microstrategy-s-a-ticking-time-bomb

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11970 on: March 09, 2025, 04:10:13 PM »
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« Reply #11972 on: March 10, 2025, 03:42:46 AM »
https://x.com/spotonchain/status/1897411965397737856

Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial (@worldlibertyfi) is back to buying $ETH, $WBTC, and $MOVE!

In the past 45 minutes, the fund moved 25M $USDC to a new multi-sig wallet and purchased:

• 4,468 $ETH ($10M) at $2,238
• 110.6 $WBTC ($10M) at $90,420
• 3.42M $MOVE ($1.5M) at $0.439

3.5M $USDC remains in that new wallet—more buys incoming? Follow @spotonchain and set alerts for #WorldLibertyFi for more updates at https://platform.spotonchain.ai/en/entity/2361



Obsidian - I am still trying to figure you out. One the one hand you are obviously smart. On the other, you are also very naive (or you are just trolling?). Either way, I am here to help with a dose of reality. I genuinely want to help and take not pleasure in watching these continued losses you are incurring. May I ask - genuinely curious - how old you are?
 
I hope I at least deterred you from the Trump and Melania coins? Please tell me you at least followed my advice on these?

As for the "Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial", I have tried to explain this before, but it really almost nothing to do with Trump other than claiming an association with him and some of his children. If your investment thesis is "buy what this is fund is buying as they have inside knowledge due to connections with Trump", please reconsider that immediately. Indeed, you just saw what happened with the BITCOIN strategic reserve, and how shitcoins will be distinguished (basically any seized shitcoin can be sold off, with that money used to buy BTC for the reserve).

The market cap of this fund, managed by absolute morons, has now fallen from USD 400m to now just USD 70m (actually now even less than my net worth - not my BTC worth, but my total net assets). 80m is miniscule, for any type of fund - its an irrelevant blip. (And of that 80m, the bulk of it comes from Justin Sun - the genius who bought that banana for 6m and ate it - which maybe explains why around 12% of the fund is Tron).

The Trump thing, and the "building the defi of the future" etc is close to a scam, intended to suck in fools. They obviously have NO IDEA at all what they are doing. For example, their largest holding was ETH (and in just around 6 weeks they have managed to lose 40% of the value of that ETH in USD, and clearly those losses will grow, for obvious reasons).

Looking at what they are investing in, and their timing etc, is basically similar to how a school-boy dgen might be engaging in shitcoinery for the first time, before learning his lesson, absent the pure memes. But it is really, a total embarrassment and an appalling performance.

Of that 70 left, around 2m a year is likely to be being spent on wages, trading fees, compliance costs, etc. I am not sure how they then calculate any profit for the fund managers, but say their "management fee" is 2%pa, that amounts to $1.4m (meaning a total extraction from the NAV of the fund at around 4% a year). So divide that management fee among the founders, give Trump his cut for allowing Trump name to be used, and you can see this is literally irrelevant, on almost all levels.

Here is what I would do if you were you. Bite the bullet, man up, and sell 50% of you Eth now. Put it into BTC. If Eth keeps falling, and if you really love it so much, you can buy it back even cheaper. In the meantime you have some of your wealth in the only global digital commodity - Bitcoin.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11973 on: March 10, 2025, 08:26:57 AM »
I hope you have accumulated some more BTC by now, gib, c'mon, it's only 79k for an imaginary coin, a true bargain, you gotta go all in or you wanna stay poor?

(next time I'm gonna remind u @65k what a true bargain your imaginary coin is ;D)

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« Reply #11974 on: March 10, 2025, 09:51:29 AM »
I hope you have accumulated some more BTC by now, gib, c'mon, it's only 79k for an imaginary coin, a true bargain, you gotta go all in or you wanna stay poor?

(next time I'm gonna remind u @65k what a true bargain your imaginary coin is ;D)

The "real money" as you call it, continues to devalue over time. You are looking at things backwards. BTC is the REAL MONEY. Fiat currency is the imaginary money.  Buy, and hodl. How hard can that be? If you follow this advice now, you will be extremely grateful you did in 10 years time - trust me on that.

We sell FAKE MONEY (Government printed fiat currencies) and buy REAL MONEY (BTC).

Yes I bought a little more at 81.5K, and then also just under 80K. If dropped more in the sort term (meaning less USD to buy), obviously I would buy more.