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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2015, 06:28:54 AM »
I am married so that means I can only access all of my net worth if I eat the same pussy for the next 50 years.

That aside, we have no moveable debts credit cards/loans/car finance etc, so once our mortgage is paid up we have made a lot of money from our first house and can invest more in other properties

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #101 on: July 07, 2015, 11:17:48 AM »
Dude if you think bonds will get hammered when rates rise don't u think equities wil her hit the same? It's common sense man. Sell stock and stay in cash for now. Your patience will be rewarded.

Not all equities will react the same when rates inevitably rise. Some industries tend to react positively.

Many bonds that get hit hard never make it back to where they were until they reach maturity (assuming they do). And again, all bonds are not the same. Treasuries will tend to react differently from investment grade corporates, which will tend to react differently from high yields. And short term debt is less affected than longterm debt.

You cannot tell me that a small cap biotech that announces a result of a drug trial or FDA decision won't move a great deal in either direction in a short timeframe on the good or not so good news, regardless of whether rates are at zero or 5% or whatever. Puts and calls. Maybe a small long stock position if the company is pretty sound fundamentally. Just one example...

Bottom line, I do not have a crystal ball and therefore do not ever try to convince myself that I'm anywhere near 100% certain of this or that happening, particularly in the short term. Anyone who tries to convince me that they are certain of this or that is not someone I can take seriously after 21 years of investing. You're going to be right on the money on occasion, but most of your predictions will be at least a little off. And some will be dead wrong.

If I'm right 51% of the time in the short term, I'm thrilled. But I'm more focused on trying to be 90+% right in the longer term, and having my right investments be far more right than my wrong investments are wrong.

Some money in long equities and call options, some in commodities, some in cash, some short in equities and long in put options, etc. I sometimes also sell a few covered calls on occasion. I'm never, ever 100% in cash, or 100% long stocks, or 100% commodities or whatever, although I certainly do play with the allocations from time to time.

Many of my long stock positions can be pretty volatile. These are generally hedged with puts. I may sell them off partially or entirely when I feel it is warranted. Of course every realized gain is a taxable event in a taxable account.

Larger, less volatile companies that are overpriced like GM and recently GE are usually actually shorted. More volatile companies that appear to be way overpriced like Amazon, Netflix, and Tesla (and thousands of others) are handled more carefully via put options.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #102 on: July 07, 2015, 11:22:50 AM »
why?

Nobody knows for sure when this will happen, nor how bad it will be.

Markets always crash ever so often sooner or later. It's really easy to make such a vague prediction then proclaim yourself a genius after the fact.

If someone cannot give me dates and amounts of tops and bottoms (which no one can), I don't really take them seriously.
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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #103 on: July 07, 2015, 11:40:45 AM »
Anyone with real wealth will never post about it here -   that I can assure you.

After working in various financial services fields over the last couple of decades, I've found that you can often tell quite a bit about a person's wealth, credit status, etc by the way they act in general if you pay attention and are aware of what to look for.

When I was in lending many years ago, I quickly learned enough about people to be able to predict with about 95% accuracy over the phone whether a person would get approved for a loan before the application was even complete and their credit was pulled. I was about 98-99% accurate when they would come in and apply in person.

And I've learned a great deal about sniffing out wealth / fake wealth over the last 11 years I've been an IA. Multimillionaires don't act like it's life's crowning achievement when they buy a decent car or nice piece of jewelry, for instance - it's just not that big of a deal. A rich man or soon to be rich man will do and think and talk about his work 18 hours a day - making and investing more money and piling up wealth are what's important to the wealthy - any toys are just icing on the cake.
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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #104 on: July 07, 2015, 11:48:52 AM »
me too
if i recognize any actor from a blockbuster i can tell theyre wealthy 99% of the time

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2015, 12:15:27 PM »
I know people that own a million dollar plus home, Cars in the hundred thousand price ranges but are borrowing all of the cash yet claim a net worth in the millions.  The fact is minus their debt they have 0 net worth

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2015, 05:39:40 PM »
I know people that own a million dollar plus home, Cars in the hundred thousand price ranges but are borrowing all of the cash yet claim a net worth in the millions.  The fact is minus their debt they have 0 net worth

Exactly why I stated earlier most people don't know how to calculate their net worth.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #107 on: July 08, 2015, 12:50:44 AM »
I am married so that means I can only access all of my net worth if I eat the same pussy for the next 50 years.



This make me  :'( :'( :'(, man need fresh pussy every 3-4 months  ;)

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2015, 01:46:10 AM »
This make me  :'( :'( :'(, man need fresh pussy every 3-4 months  ;)

You do what you gotta do man. Sometimes I style her pubes and use face paint to keep it interesting, last night I face fucked the big hairy guy from Monsters inc for example.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2015, 01:49:44 AM »
my net worth is such that I could, from my own estimates, fill a Jaguar 3/4 inside with chicken breasts.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #110 on: July 09, 2015, 01:46:06 AM »
You do what you gotta do man. Sometimes I style her pubes and use face paint to keep it interesting, last night I face fucked the big hairy guy from Monsters inc for example.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2015, 03:03:19 PM »
This one?

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I've had a few bucks in a S&P short ETF as a hedge.

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i bought three slugs in total including some this morning. little bit in the money today, need to see an agreement though tomorrow or sat.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #112 on: July 11, 2015, 01:14:32 PM »
i bought three slugs in total including some this morning. little bit in the money today, need to see an agreement though tomorrow or sat.

I've been doing pretty well overall buying small lots of some of these smaller biotechs. I've bought a couple in the last several weeks that sold off some 70+% in one day on drug trial issues, and have bought quite a few winners this year days or weeks after they've popped up big on good news and have settled back down. They almost always seem to pop back up again, sometimes even more. I tend to cover with puts if I'm buying a substantial amount on these.
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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #113 on: July 11, 2015, 11:00:58 PM »
Whats better than real estate
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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #114 on: July 11, 2015, 11:34:51 PM »
Whats better than real estate

Not much. One of the best investments.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #115 on: July 11, 2015, 11:55:05 PM »
I'm worth 3.4 billion.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #116 on: July 12, 2015, 12:23:15 AM »
Exactly why I stated earlier most people don't know how to calculate their net worth.

You know your net worth when you buy a house right?
I remeber it being a line item in one of my home purchases ( 3 in my lifetime)

Essentially i have dick, like most (in their early 30s) but over time that will change.

Take my kid and wife into equation and im with the rest of you bums

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #117 on: July 12, 2015, 12:27:29 AM »
You know your net worth when you buy a house right?
I remeber it being a line item in one of my home purchases ( 3 in my lifetime)

Essentially i have dick, like most (in their early 30s) but over time that will change.

Take my kid and wife into equation and im with the rest of you bums

Net worth is assets minus debts.

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #118 on: July 12, 2015, 07:14:11 AM »
I know people that own a million dollar plus home, Cars in the hundred thousand price ranges but are borrowing all of the cash yet claim a net worth in the millions.  The fact is minus their debt they have 0 net worth

I'm sorry but this is the sort of ignorant shit that all the dumb jealous folks believe.

Why would someone lend you a million for a house and hundreds of thousands for cars if you didn't have the net assets to make you credit worthy?  Wealthy people borrow to buy but they need to have the credit rating to be able to borrow.

I can make a 10-15% return on investment by keeping cash within my company. Last week I bought my kid a car to learn to drive in. Nothing special just a nice MINI. I'm financing it over 48 months at just 3.8% flat rate interest. This means I can keep $25,000 in my company and make 15% on it instead of taking it as a dividend and paying cash for the car. So I'm 10% up on the deal.
Wealthy folks borrow all the time. The only people who pay cash are pimps, black, rednecks and others impressed by cash who frankly don't have the ability to raise cheap credit.
Oh and I'm not shy about asking for the best deal. Got $400 off the car without thinking that the salesman would think I can't afford it.
I guess the fact I rolled up in my S class merc maybe had something to do with having instant credibility.












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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #119 on: July 12, 2015, 08:33:45 AM »
My net is worth the $10.00 I paid for it at Walmart, put it on my basketball setup on FRI...


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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #120 on: July 12, 2015, 02:18:30 PM »
I live in Holland, the country without poor or rich people..... :-X

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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #121 on: July 13, 2015, 02:38:55 PM »
He's basically describing the majority of Americans. I know from working in various personal finance related industries over the last 21 years that many / most people do live beyond their means and borrow as much as they can in order to have as much house and cars and fancy living as they can get themselves into - keep up with the Joneses, show 'em watchu got, etc. This was part of the reason we saw what we saw in '08.

Nothing wrong with sensible borrowing - it's usually a necessary evil for most of us when we're young. But the goal should be to eventually get debt-free.

I know many wealthy people who never finance anything - not cars, not homes, not anything. Those who borrow tend to borrow for business and can usually find ways to write it off.

You can only write off $1 mil for one primary or secondary residence on the mortgage interest deduction, so if you're buying a multi-million dollar home, there's really no need to mortgage it just for the deduction, unless you don't have much cash laying around.

I personally paid off all of my debt (mortgage, cars, etc) and pretty much stopped all borrowing a few years ago when them there nice oil company fellers found crude and nat gas on my land.  ;D

I'm sorry but this is the sort of ignorant shit that all the dumb jealous folks believe.

Why would someone lend you a million for a house and hundreds of thousands for cars if you didn't have the net assets to make you credit worthy?  Wealthy people borrow to buy but they need to have the credit rating to be able to borrow.

I can make a 10-15% return on investment by keeping cash within my company. Last week I bought my kid a car to learn to drive in. Nothing special just a nice MINI. I'm financing it over 48 months at just 3.8% flat rate interest. This means I can keep $25,000 in my company and make 15% on it instead of taking it as a dividend and paying cash for the car. So I'm 10% up on the deal.
Wealthy folks borrow all the time. The only people who pay cash are pimps, black, rednecks and others impressed by cash who frankly don't have the ability to raise cheap credit.
Oh and I'm not shy about asking for the best deal. Got $400 off the car without thinking that the salesman would think I can't afford it.
I guess the fact I rolled up in my S class merc maybe had something to do with having instant credibility.












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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2015, 07:13:45 AM »
He's basically describing the majority of Americans. I know from working in various personal finance related industries over the last 21 years that many / most people do live beyond their means and borrow as much as they can in order to have as much house and cars and fancy living as they can get themselves into - keep up with the Joneses, show 'em watchu got, etc. This was part of the reason we saw what we saw in '08.

Nothing wrong with sensible borrowing - it's usually a necessary evil for most of us when we're young. But the goal should be to eventually get debt-free.

I know many wealthy people who never finance anything - not cars, not homes, not anything. Those who borrow tend to borrow for business and can usually find ways to write it off.


I have a few wealthy friends who live like this.  My neighbor is a huge investment guy and makes about half a million a year easily.  He owns a house smaller than mine and drives a 2002 Honda Civic.  However, he does have a few toys (boat, motorcycle, 4-wheeler).  This guy doesn't even care about money, he has that much.  I discuss money with him every now and then, he has some incredible ideas.  The only time he has ever borrowed money is when he bought his house.  Everything else he paid cash money.

This guy was selling wheels and tires out of the back of his truck in high school.  He's always been good with business.  Not a care in the world, just works and enjoys life.  You would never know he was worth millions if you met him.  In fact, most people have no idea he even has money.

Compare him to 95% of my other friends/family that live paychech to paycheck.  A good friend of mine makes a decent living with no kids.  The guy is broke as hell while making 150k a year.  I've never understood how this is possible.  He has like 3 cars and a 5 bedroom house all to himself.  Always worried about money and stressed about his job.  Fuck all that.

I found a happy medium.  I have some cool stuff, but nothing crazy.  Hoping to retire young.

Almost all American's that i know well are terrible with money.  Why worry about saving money when you can finance and overpay?  Lol 


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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2015, 09:58:54 AM »
I have a few wealthy friends who live like this.  My neighbor is a huge investment guy and makes about half a million a year easily.  He owns a house smaller than mine and drives a 2002 Honda Civic.  However, he does have a few toys (boat, motorcycle, 4-wheeler).  This guy doesn't even care about money, he has that much.  I discuss money with him every now and then, he has some incredible ideas.  The only time he has ever borrowed money is when he bought his house.  Everything else he paid cash money.

This guy was selling wheels and tires out of the back of his truck in high school.  He's always been good with business.  Not a care in the world, just works and enjoys life.  You would never know he was worth millions if you met him.  In fact, most people have no idea he even has money.

Compare him to 95% of my other friends/family that live paychech to paycheck.  A good friend of mine makes a decent living with no kids.  The guy is broke as hell while making 150k a year.  I've never understood how this is possible.  He has like 3 cars and a 5 bedroom house all to himself.  Always worried about money and stressed about his job.  Fuck all that.

I found a happy medium.  I have some cool stuff, but nothing crazy.  Hoping to retire young.

Almost all American's that i know well are terrible with money.  Why worry about saving money when you can finance and overpay?  Lol 


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Re: What is your net worth?
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2015, 09:59:44 AM »
Not sure why anyone would own bonds, especially right now.

"What I advise here is essentially identical to certain instructions I’ve laid out in my will. One bequest provides that cash will be delivered to a trustee for my wife’s benefit…My advice to the trustee could not be more simple: Put 10% of the cash in short-term government bonds and 90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund. (I suggest Vanguard’s.) I believe the trust’s long-term results from this policy will be superior to those attained by most investors…" - Warren Buffett

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