Harley Breite - Appreciation thread

[The Ugly]

agreed, but isnt society as a whole the real victim?

Wonderful. Outlaw it, then, based on the idiots who let it ruin their lives; meanwhile, ignoring the millions who gamble in moderation, just enjoying a little harmless escape. Never spending more than what they can reasonably afford to lose.

But why stop there? Let's allow these "addicts" to dictate policy for everyone across the board: gambling, alcohol, weed, junk food, tobacco, etc. Thankfully steroids are already illegal, so no lives ruined there.

Nanny State to the rescue, yay!

[HarleyBreite]

agreed, but isnt society as a whole the real victim?

   No one could ever convince me that society as a whole benefits from legalized gambling.  There are no real tax dollars going to real, meaningful, sustaining jobs
or other governmental programs designed to help the less fortunate.
   Just walk through any casino and you are watching the living dead.  
   I suppose the Libertarian side of me says why should the government protect people from themselves but there really is something about the effects of gambling
that make it viscerally different for me.   Now, prostitution, that's easy.

[HarleyBreite]

Dear The Ugly,
  Yours is the point I keep returning to as it sits most comfortably with my ideologies of life.
  I am as anti-government as you can find within the law itself.
  I guess my answer would be to legalize ALL of it but not make me have to walk through a casino to see it.
  Sometimes, we hold to our ideas but are ideologically tested by the other side of the coin.  I think that is a healthy way for a person
to think through his position and test it against competing thoughts of view.
  That is what you just helped me do and I am better off for that experience.
  Thanks.
Harley

[Las Vegas]

Jeff, maybe "victimless" in the sense that it isn't punching someone in the gut and taking their belongings, for instance.

But you are absolutely right.

[Las Vegas]

Wonderful. Outlaw it, then, based on the idiots who let it ruin their lives; meanwhile ignoring the millions who gamble in moderation, just enjoying a little harmless escape, never spending more what they can reasonably afford to lose.

But why stop there? Let's allow these "addicts" to dictate policy for everyone, across the board: gambling, alcohol, weed, junk food, tobacco, etc. Thankfully steroids are already illegal, so no lives ruined there.

Nanny State to the rescue, yay!

Well said, and it is the exact trend we are on with every single thing in this "new world"...  holding everyone responsible for the lowest behavior, to the point everyone may as well be guilty.

Fucking bullshit, is what.

[HarleyBreite]

dear Harley

please tell us about your altercations with Louie Ferrigno

I have heard many stories that Lou is an absolute douchebag

did you choke him out and rip off his toupe?

Dear Old-School-Lifter,
   My first run in with Lou was at the 1998 Arnold Classic Expo.  I went there with my then Training Partner, Vinnie Galanti who was working the Universal booth.
   I was on line to meet Lou and was about 5 rows from his table with a middle age guy and his perhaps 6 year old son in front of me.  The young kid was so excited and
kept saying, "Daddy, Daddy, it's The Hulk!"  Well, the guy took out his camera (back then we used Sony Snapshots and not phones) and from about 4 rows away took a photo
of Lou sitting at the table.  Lou saw the flash, stood up in anger and yelled "Who did that?"  It scared the young kid.  Lou began to yell at the Dad that all photos were $20.  The Dad
didn't know how to respond and was taken by surprised and embarrassed.  The kid began to cry.
   I was right behind the guy so I saw and heard the whole thing.  I was much younger and impulsive then so I entered the mix.
   I just yelled from where I was "Hey Lou, what the hell is wrong with you?"  Lou responded, "You shut up" 
   I then pushed my way forward and while approaching the table I yelled, "What the fuck did you say you piece of shit?  I will end you"
   Lou had people next to him behind the table who stood up next to him and I yelled "You gonna try to save him?"
   Lou's people formed around him in an attempt to appear as if they were holding him back.  He began yelling at me and calling for security to remove me..
   I told him that he was a "fucking disgrace to make a young kid cry" and that "if you were half the man Arnold was, you wouldn't hide behind that table and call
security like a little bitch." 
   Well, security came and that was the end of my Arnold Classic Expo time.
Harley

[HarleyBreite]

  My second run in with Lou was perhaps the second time Craig competed at the Mr. Olympia but the very first year it was held at The Orleans Hotel (the worst in all of Vegas).
Lou was walking down the corridor from the hotel to the auditorium, draped with handlers and fans.  I happened to be standing there as he walked by.  By then, it had become
public knowledge about Lou charging for photos so I yelled, "Louie, Louie, show 'em ya amms (trying to imitate his Dad from Pumping Iron) all the time while I am holding up my camera.
Lots of people laughed at the impersonation but when Lou turned and saw me holding up my camera he flipped.  He yelled, "You can't do that!!!" 
   I responded in his Dad's accent, "But Louie this is America... Louie, don't cry, don't cry Louie... I have 20 dollaas for you" 
   He had some trouble stopping as the momentum to get him to the auditorium was all around him but he tried. 
   I then gave him the finger and said "Fuck you asshole" and I just stood there.  He never broke from his crowd, turned and continued to the auditorium.
Harley

[Las Vegas]

Dear Old-School-Lifter,
   My first run in with Lou was at the 1998 Arnold Classic Expo.  I went there with my then Training Partner, Vinnie Galanti who was working the Universal booth.
   I was on line to meet Lou and was about 5 rows from his table with a middle age guy and his perhaps 6 year old son in front of me.  The young kid was so excited and
kept saying, "Daddy, Daddy, it's The Hulk!"  Well, the guy took out his camera (back then we used Sony Snapshots and not phones) and from about 4 rows away took a photo
of Lou sitting at the table.  Lou saw the flash, stood up in anger and yelled "Who did that?"  It scared the young kid.  Lou began to yell at the Dad that all photos were $20.  The Dad
didn't know how to respond and was taken by surprised and embarrassed.  The kid began to cry.
   I was right behind the guy so I saw and heard the whole thing.  I was much younger and impulsive then so I entered the mix.
   I just yelled from where I was "Hey Lou, what the hell is wrong with you?"  Lou responded, "You shut up" 
   I then pushed my way forward and while approaching the table I yelled, "What the fuck did you say you piece of shit?  I will end you"
   Lou had people next to him behind the table who stood up next to him and I yelled "You gonna try to save him?"
   Lou's people formed around him in an attempt to appear as if they were holding him back.  He began yelling at me and calling for security to remove me..
   I told him that he was a "fucking disgrace to make a young kid cry" and that "if you were half the man Arnold was, you wouldn't hide behind that table and call
security like a little bitch." 
   Well, security came and that was the end of my Arnold Classic Expo time.
Harley

Many of these guys are prepared like that, to have their assistants/security do this exact thing.

[Las Vegas]

  My second run in with Lou was perhaps the second time Craig competed at the Mr. Olympia but the very first year it was held at The Orleans Hotel (the worst in all of Vegas).
Lou was walking down the corridor from the hotel to the auditorium, draped with handlers and fans.  I happened to be standing there as he walked by.  By then, it had become
public knowledge about Lou charging for photos so I yelled, "Louie, Louie, show 'em ya amms (trying to imitate his Dad from Pumping Iron) all the time while I am holding up my camera.
Lots of people laughed at the impersonation but when Lou turned and saw me holding up my camera he flipped.  He yelled, "You can't do that!!!" 
   I responded in his Dad's accent, "But Louie this is America... Louie, don't cry, don't cry Louie... I have 20 dollaas for you" 
   He had some trouble stopping as the momentum to get him to the auditorium was all around him but he tried. 
   I then gave him the finger and said "Fuck you asshole" and I just stood there.  He never broke from his crowd, turned and continued to the auditorium.
Harley

LOL!!

[The Ugly]

Dear The Ugly,
  Yours is the point I keep returning to as it sits most comfortably with my ideologies of life.
  I am as anti-government as you can find within the law itself.
  I guess my answer would be to legalize ALL of it but not make me have to walk through a casino to see it.
  Sometimes, we hold to our ideas but are ideologically tested by the other side of the coin.  I think that is a healthy way for a person
to think through his position and test it against competing thoughts of view.
  That is what you just helped me do and I am better off for that experience.
  Thanks.
Harley

I know, H, and I'm really not trying to ba a dick, just trying to offer perspective. But why do you have to walk through casinos? And why can't I? Never causes me any problems. Baby and bathwater?

We all see helpless fatties gorging themselves every f'n day. Can anyone argue this doesn't ruin lives, often literally, and thus harming families? Not to mention the financial burden placed on society at large (as long as we're going there).

Yet most here don't seem to have a problem keeping calories in check. You really want government outlawing the cheat day you've worked so hard to earn? Because that's where this leads - WAY MORE lives are affected by obesity. So why ignore it here, because it doesn't apply to us? Disingenuous perhaps?

Fuck them, sorry, the glutton and the hopeless gambler: grown-ass volunteers, fucking up fun for everyone with their selfish addictions. Deal with your shitty choices, I say, and let the rest of us enjoy our harmless vices in moderation.

[Las Vegas]

I feel kind of bad for Louie in some ways, especially after seeing that "selling DVDs?!" video w Arnold.

[The Ugly]

Dear Old-School-Lifter,
   My first run in with Lou was at the 1998 Arnold Classic Expo.  I went there with my then Training Partner, Vinnie Galanti who was working the Universal booth.
   I was on line to meet Lou and was about 5 rows from his table with a middle age guy and his perhaps 6 year old son in front of me.  The young kid was so excited and
kept saying, "Daddy, Daddy, it's The Hulk!"  Well, the guy took out his camera (back then we used Sony Snapshots and not phones) and from about 4 rows away took a photo
of Lou sitting at the table.  Lou saw the flash, stood up in anger and yelled "Who did that?"  It scared the young kid.  Lou began to yell at the Dad that all photos were $20.  The Dad
didn't know how to respond and was taken by surprised and embarrassed.  The kid began to cry.
   I was right behind the guy so I saw and heard the whole thing.  I was much younger and impulsive then so I entered the mix.
   I just yelled from where I was "Hey Lou, what the hell is wrong with you?"  Lou responded, "You shut up" 
   I then pushed my way forward and while approaching the table I yelled, "What the fuck did you say you piece of shit?  I will end you"
   Lou had people next to him behind the table who stood up next to him and I yelled "You gonna try to save him?"
   Lou's people formed around him in an attempt to appear as if they were holding him back.  He began yelling at me and calling for security to remove me..
   I told him that he was a "fucking disgrace to make a young kid cry" and that "if you were half the man Arnold was, you wouldn't hide behind that table and call
security like a little bitch." 
   Well, security came and that was the end of my Arnold Classic Expo time.
Harley

Fucking LEGEND!

Well done, sir.

[The Ugly]

  My second run in with Lou was perhaps the second time Craig competed at the Mr. Olympia but the very first year it was held at The Orleans Hotel (the worst in all of Vegas).
Lou was walking down the corridor from the hotel to the auditorium, draped with handlers and fans.  I happened to be standing there as he walked by.  By then, it had become
public knowledge about Lou charging for photos so I yelled, "Louie, Louie, show 'em ya amms (trying to imitate his Dad from Pumping Iron) all the time while I am holding up my camera.
Lots of people laughed at the impersonation but when Lou turned and saw me holding up my camera he flipped.  He yelled, "You can't do that!!!" 
   I responded in his Dad's accent, "But Louie this is America... Louie, don't cry, don't cry Louie... I have 20 dollaas for you" 
   He had some trouble stopping as the momentum to get him to the auditorium was all around him but he tried. 
   I then gave him the finger and said "Fuck you asshole" and I just stood there.  He never broke from his crowd, turned and continued to the auditorium.
Harley

Totally digging the Lou contempt. Right on, Harley.

[SuperTed]

Damn. Lou really is a piece of shit. I've not heard anyone who's met him say a good thing about him.

[HarleyBreite]

Dear The Ugly,
  I have considerable interaction with famous people (I am not one of those douche bad name droppers) and some have egos that need to be checked
like Lou's and some just "get it."  They may not understand why the autograph, picture or hand shake is so important BUT they accept it and give it to the fan
without contempt, price or ridicule.  Those are the guys whom I most admire.
  I actually stopped working with and for some "famous" people because of their sense of entitlement and ego.
Harley

[Las Vegas]

Maybe Lou is trying to guard against feelings of worthlessness.

[The Ugly]

Dear The Ugly,
  I have considerable interaction with famous people (I am not one of those douche bad name droppers) and some have egos that need to be checked
like Lou's and some just "get it."  They may not understand why the autograph, picture or hand shake is so important BUT they accept it and give it to the fan
without contempt, price or ridicule.  Those are the guys whom I most admire.
  I actually stopped working with and for some "famous" people because of their sense of entitlement and ego.
Harley

Lou couldn't fake humility if he tried. These events absolutely need guys like you to cut through the starfucker nonsense. Keeps 'em honest, if only for the minute you're there.

Say, we'd all SO enjoy a brief video of you teasing the big dummy again. Assuming he's in attendance, what are the chances?

[Las Vegas]

So when Louie was shoveling down that pile of pills from his dresser in P.I., anyone know if those were orals or what

[Las Vegas]

Harley, when do you project your documentary will be released?

[HarleyBreite]

Lou couldn't fake humility if he tried. These events absolutely need guys like you to cut through the starfucker nonsense. Keeps 'em honest, if only for the minute you're there.

Say, we'd all SO enjoy a brief video of you teasing the big dummy again. Assuming he's in attendance, what are the chances?

Dear The Ugly,
  I really appreciate the compliments.
  So are you saying that the GetBiggers would like to see a video of me taunting Louie?  Interesting if true.
  I will say this...my Videographer who is filming our Documentary will be with me the whole time. 
  So how does GetBig entice me, a reasonable man, to instigate a confrontation with Lou "The Hulk" Ferrigno?
  I am listening.
Harley

[Waller]

Dear Old-School-Lifter,
   My first run in with Lou was at the 1998 Arnold Classic Expo.  I went there with my then Training Partner, Vinnie Galanti who was working the Universal booth.
   I was on line to meet Lou and was about 5 rows from his table with a middle age guy and his perhaps 6 year old son in front of me.  The young kid was so excited and
kept saying, "Daddy, Daddy, it's The Hulk!"  Well, the guy took out his camera (back then we used Sony Snapshots and not phones) and from about 4 rows away took a photo
of Lou sitting at the table.  Lou saw the flash, stood up in anger and yelled "Who did that?"  It scared the young kid.  Lou began to yell at the Dad that all photos were $20.  The Dad
didn't know how to respond and was taken by surprised and embarrassed.  The kid began to cry.
   I was right behind the guy so I saw and heard the whole thing.  I was much younger and impulsive then so I entered the mix.
   I just yelled from where I was "Hey Lou, what the hell is wrong with you?"  Lou responded, "You shut up" 
   I then pushed my way forward and while approaching the table I yelled, "What the fuck did you say you piece of shit?  I will end you"
   Lou had people next to him behind the table who stood up next to him and I yelled "You gonna try to save him?"
   Lou's people formed around him in an attempt to appear as if they were holding him back.  He began yelling at me and calling for security to remove me..
   I told him that he was a "fucking disgrace to make a young kid cry" and that "if you were half the man Arnold was, you wouldn't hide behind that table and call
security like a little bitch." 
   Well, security came and that was the end of my Arnold Classic Expo time.
Harley

Haha I bet that stung.

[HarleyBreite]

Harley, when do you project your documentary will be released?

  As soon as I convert from being a fat bastard to my old self.  I was actually thinking about releasing a secret about myself here on GetBig
but I thought against it taking the advice of BeThere and Che who warned me well of backlash.

[Las Vegas]

Dear The Ugly,
  I really appreciate the compliments.
  So are you saying that the GetBiggers would like to see a video of me taunting Louie?  Interesting if true.
  I will say this...my Videographer who is filming our Documentary will be with me the whole time. 
  So how does GetBig entice me, a reasonable man, to instigate a confrontation with Lou "The Hulk" Ferrigno?
  I am listening.
Harley

As funny as I'm sure it might be, I don't think you should do it.

[The Ugly]

Dear The Ugly,
  I really appreciate the compliments.
  So are you saying that the GetBiggers would like to see a video of me taunting Louie?  Interesting if true.
  I will say this...my Videographer who is filming our Documentary will be with me the whole time.  
  So how does GetBig entice me, a reasonable man, to instigate a confrontation with Lou "The Hulk" Ferrigno?
  I am listening.
Harley

YES!

Easy, here ya go: Stand in line for a pic. When you get to Big Lou, hand him your camera and ask him to take a picture of you with your videographer. Because this is all about you and your film, not him. We're turning the tables, see, and Louie ain't gonna like it.

If he hasn't already snapped, inform him he owes you twenty for the privilege. Or spitball it, pal, use that big-ass brain. But you got your premise. Perfectly diabolical ideas will arise - employ them at will. And never break character: You're the star, he's just some nothing who can do you a favor.

This will be Getbig lore. Don't let us down, guy.

[The Ugly]

As funny as I'm sure it might be, I don't think you should do it.

Oh, dude. Come. On. Why on earth would you say such a thing? Bodybuilding is trench warfare, don't go soft now.