its normally two ends of the extremes we jump to!
an AAS is either complete shit or completely incredible!
EQ is neither imo, it's not a 600mg kind of compound like tren or deca (not the undec version anyway)
to get the results everyone wants, try to run it over a gram - only if blood work is ok though! some people get seriously skewed blood work on this, its individual.
with undec over a gram for 16 weeks
with cyp, can get by with 8 weeks.
cyp ester isn't painful, bold ace is horrid!
but cyp is more than bearable.
it's different to test in that you get fuller without the subq water and sides. its just a far better look imo.
if most experienced guys use 600mg test now, it's just a cruising dose, won't do much of anything but maintain.
same goes for EQ,
if blood work permits, treat it like you would test and you'll see that it starts to shine.
cyp over undec as well.