RACHEL MADDOW DESTROYS ANOTHER REPUBLICAN NONSENSE CLAIM ABOUT OBAMA

[andreisdaman]

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-maddow-destroys-republicans-obama-executive-order-freak-out-in-4-minutes/

Just wanted to dispel the continuing lie that president Obama has become an "emperor" in the words of Republicans by using executive orders to push his agenda.....of course this is hysterical just like all the other republican reactions......actually Obama has used less executive Orders than ANY PRESIDENT IN RECENT HISTORY...check out the link above which destroys the Republican myth of Obama's use of exec orders..

[Dos Equis]

It's not the number, but the content. 

[240 is Back]

sad but true.   I'd argue his had greater impact, such as amnesty.
then i'd counter-argue that republicans endorsed it by not impeaching his ass after fast & furious.
then i'd double-counter-argue that F&F was just a continuation of Bush's policy of handing guns to bad guys

it's so tiring.

[andreisdaman]

It's not the number, but the content. 

I'm dispelling the specific notion that the Repubs claim Obama is an "emperor" who is ruling by decree......look at all the other presidents who did the same but even more than Obama....especially the Repub presidents......are they emperors too?

[LurkerNoMore]

It's not the number, but the content. 

It's not the content, but the whining from the GOP.

[240 is Back]

It's not the number, but the content.  

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which were the 3 worst executive orders obama has given us, dos equis?

you dont have to answer if you dont know.

[andreisdaman]

It's not the content, but the whining from the GOP.

I've never seen such immature crying in politics....and the conservatives get their base worked up and then in the end they have egg on their faces and they let their constituents down

[240 is Back]

I've never seen such immature crying in politics....and the conservatives get their base worked up and then in the end they have egg on their faces and they let their constituents down

"Just give us the Senate, we'll finally stop obama".

Nothing has stopped, nothing has changed.  They're not impeaching.  Rather, they got in bed with him on the 1.4 trillion dollar monstrosity for a budget.  They showed they're complicit in obama's crimes.

"Just give us the senate, we'll change things!"  Bullshit.

[Dos Equis]

I'm dispelling the specific notion that the Repubs claim Obama is an "emperor" who is ruling by decree......look at all the other presidents who did the same but even more than Obama....especially the Repub presidents......are they emperors too?

You're not dispelling any notion.  You cannot look at the number of executive orders.  One incredibly bad EO is worse than 50 good EOs

[LurkerNoMore]

I've never seen such immature crying in politics....and the conservatives get their base worked up and then in the end they have egg on their faces and they let their constituents down

[andreisdaman]

You're not dispelling any notion.  You cannot look at the number of executive orders.  One incredibly bad EO is worse than 50 good EOs

WOW..you are doing some serious backpeddling......who can say which exec order is worse or better...its in the eye of the beholder...and with what makes sense

[LurkerNoMore]

You're not dispelling any notion.  You cannot look at the number of executive orders.  One incredibly bad EO is worse than 50 good EOs

How is "bad" defined?  By your opinion?

[andreisdaman]

How is "bad" defined?  By your opinion?

you seconded my point above....good job

[Dos Equis]

WOW..you are doing some serious backpeddling......who can say which exec order is worse or better...its in the eye of the beholder...and with what makes sense

Back peddling on what?  

Pretty obvious that the kind of EO that grants amnesty to millions of illegals is pretty bad, especially when the president admitted it exceeded his Constitutional authority.  

[Dos Equis]

How is "bad" defined?  By your opinion?

Granting amnesty to millions of illegals, after the president repeatedly acknowledges he lacks the Constitutional power to do so. 

[andreisdaman]

Back peddling on what?  

Pretty obvious that the kind of EO that grants amnesty to millions of illegals is pretty bad, especially when the president admitted it exceeded his Constitutional authority.  

Reagan did the same thing........Didn't hear ANY crying then.......WONDER WHY???

[240 is Back]

Granting amnesty to millions of illegals, after the president repeatedly acknowledges he lacks the Constitutional power to do so. 

Tough one there, calling out Amnesty as obama's fault.

At some point - EVERY repub presidential hopeful supported amnesty:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/15/by-standards-of-immigration-hawks-all-2016-gop-contenders-support-amnesty/

And if you really want to get into Boehnner and Mcconnell pushing the house AND senate off the amnesty cliff, you can...
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/02/13/senate-gop-leaders-prepare-to-cave-on-amnesty/

Amnesty was a shitbag that idiots from both parties supported.  It was essentially the same deal Reagan gave us, and we know how you all love him.

[Dos Equis]

Reagan did the same thing........Didn't hear ANY crying then.......WONDER WHY???

Moral equivalency again?  How shocking. 

1.  What back peddling am I doing?

2.  Were you actually looking for people to "cry" when Reagan issues his executive orders 30 years ago?  Were you even following politics then? 

3.  What does any of this have to do with Obama's unconstitutional amnesty executive order? 

[andreisdaman]

Tough one there, calling out Amnesty as obama's fault.

At some point - EVERY repub presidential hopeful supported amnesty:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/15/by-standards-of-immigration-hawks-all-2016-gop-contenders-support-amnesty/

And if you really want to get into Boehnner and Mcconnell pushing the house AND senate off the amnesty cliff, you can...
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/02/13/senate-gop-leaders-prepare-to-cave-on-amnesty/

Amnesty was a shitbag that idiots from both parties supported.  It was essentially the same deal Reagan gave us, and we know how you all love him.

Also Obama practically BEGGED the Republicans to tackle the issue and they refused...just sat on it in congress....so Obama made the decision for them

[andreisdaman]

Moral equivalency again?  How shocking. 

1.  What back peddling am I doing?

2.  Were you actually looking for people to "cry" when Reagan issues his executive orders 30 years ago?  Were you even following politics then? 

3.  What does any of this have to do with Obama's unconstitutional amnesty executive order? 

No moral equivalency at all...just pointing out HYPOCRISY by the GOP...your guy can do it but when our guy does it, he should be impeached and is an emperor??..........and yes I was following politics then or else how would I know that Reagan did the same thing....

[240 is Back]

Also Obama practically BEGGED the Republicans to tackle the issue and they refused...just sat on it in congress....so Obama made the decision for them

they didn't want to piss off hispanics (romney only got 27% hisp vote, while bush got 44%).   They'll never win a prez election again with those kinda numbers.

they didn't want to piss off the base - Eric cantor got kicked to the curb by being the first major pro-amnesty canddiate.  the rest realized it's political suicide.

So rather than be strong on it, either way, they just STFU and yelled about obama.   It's like seeing a puppy drowining, and not wanting to piss off your kids, who love the puppy, by letting it drown... but not wanting to piss off the cat, who hates the puppy, by rescuing it... So you just let it drown and blame whoever left the damn door open to let the puppy in the pool, in ths first place.  Fail thru inaction.  

[240 is Back]

Granting amnesty to millions of illegals, after the president repeatedly acknowledges he lacks the Constitutional power to do so. 

let me help you with some more examples.   you're doing a terrible job defending your argument here -

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/02/04/ruth-marcus-obama-executive-order/

[LurkerNoMore]

Granting amnesty to millions of illegals, after the president repeatedly acknowledges he lacks the Constitutional power to do so. 

Who said that is "bad"? Certainly not the Repubs that have already supported the idea and stated their views along the same lines.

[Dos Equis]

No moral equivalency at all...just pointing out HYPOCRISY by the GOP...your guy can do it but when our guy does it, he should be impeached and is an emperor??..........and yes I was following politics then or else how would I know that Reagan did the same thing....

What back peddling am I doing?

Yes, it is moral equivalency.  

The hypocrisy argument is pretty weak.  I doubt the people who are justifiably complaining about Obama's admitted unconstitutional EO were around 30 years ago when Reagan did something that was actually different.  But even if they were, who cares?  

[Dos Equis]

Who said that is "bad"? Certainly not the Repubs that have already supported the idea and stated their views along the same lines.

I say it's bad.  Obama said it was unconstitutional more than 20 times before he signed it.  The judge who stopped it said it was bad.  I'm sure millions of Americans think it's bad too.