Author Topic: If Trump wins GOP nomination, would that be the end of the GOP as we know it?  (Read 10437 times)

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Or he is trying to improve his brand and make more money, which he is very good at.  I'm rolling with Option C.   :)

If that was the plan then it backfired miserably given all the business he lost just in the first few months since he announced his candidacy.

It's also doubtful his supporters can afford to frequent his casinos or buy his products

http://fortune.com/2015/12/17/donald-trump-deals-lost/

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So, Trump decided to play ball with the GOP big boys and endorse Paul Ryan. I find this hilarious. Some conservative media are starting to call him out, but so many of his supporters are claiming everything he does is logical and brilliant. It's so weird to think of a president acting like this.

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So, Trump decided to play ball with the GOP big boys and endorse Paul Ryan. I find this hilarious. Some conservative media are starting to call him out, but so many of his supporters are claiming everything he does is logical and brilliant. It's so weird to think of a president acting like this.

the loyalists will tout this as "trump finally grows up, he's ready to be president'; like the did the last 2 times he pretended to be conservative and mature for 5 minutes.

the election is 12 weeks away.  Trump is a wreck. He'll gain some points back but some people aren't going to forget the crazy erratic nature he's shown. 

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Most people are reading Trump wrong. He's hitting all the right notes, at least the notes that the middle class wants to hear.

Many people interpret his promises as racism, but what he is really saying is "look, give me your vote and I'll make sure that ECONOMICALLY we got back to your grandfather's time. A time when one salary was enough to pay for a house, vacations, college, car, et cetera. And deporting people who will work for ten cents an hour and cost the economy an enormous amount of money is a step toward that goal, not The Goal".  

I'm as left wing as it gets, but what The Donald is saying makes way too much sense to me. At least a heck of a lot more sense than what The Establishment's candidates seem to be articulating.

For instance, why on earth is the press giving Obama a free pass on the illegal immigrant issue is beyond me. Here's a guy that ran part of his campaign on legalizing millions of illegal aliens, then he gets a second term and proceeds to carry on one of the largest low-key deportation waves in recorded history. The Hispanic community should be calling for a lynching on this guy. Instead, they're either eerily quiet or attacking The Donald full blast.

Meanwhile, places like Jersey City have become Little Calcuttas in a span of 5 years, literally overcome with visa-holding cheap employees who see nothing wrong in not taking a shower in two weeks.

This post always stood out to me. I remember it all these months later, for better or worse.

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This post always stood out to me. I remember it all these months later, for better or worse.

Good memory - looks like he was spot on.

There was definitely and undercurrent the mainstream media chose to ignore, or just didn't believe existed.
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Good memory - looks like he was spot on.

There was definitely and undercurrent the mainstream media chose to ignore, or just didn't believe existed.

Excellent posts. The media spent it's time working hand in hand with Clinton and the DNC during this whole thing, they are a victim of both deep ignorance of those outside of their very small bubbles/echo chambers and that they worked to directly to construct a false narrative and spin it. Same with the polling, all worked hand in glove. They believed their own lies and false reality...hence the shock. If they talked to people outside of their purview they would have seen this coming.

Now they all just sound like a bunch of losers who still don't get it. Who still push the "Sexism won the election for Trump!" or "Racist white won it!" and they couldn't be any more wrong.

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Excellent posts. The media spent it's time working hand in hand with Clinton and the DNC during this whole thing, they are a victim of both deep ignorance of those outside of their very small bubbles/echo chambers and that they worked to directly to construct a false narrative and spin it. Same with the polling, all worked hand in glove. They believed their own lies and false reality...hence the shock. If they talked to people outside of their purview they would have seen this coming.

Now they all just sound like a bunch of losers who still don't get it. Who still push the "Sexism won the election for Trump!" or "Racist white won it!" and they couldn't be any more wrong.

I know a lot of people (specifically conservatives) look at some of the stuff revealed in the Wikileaks dump and say that it was proof the fix was in, but I don't really buy that. For the most part, that's how politics works. Donna Brazile feeding questions to Hillary's camp was just plain unethical, but politicians and journalists who cover politics generally develop relationships. The fact that there was quid pro quo for Hillary wasn't an outlier. The fact that we had access to a big chunk of her email correspondence was.

That being said, there really is a tale of two Americas going on here. I think it's inaccurate to say that one is "very small" and a construct of lies, but the other does get ignored habitually. I remember a few years back when there was a controversy over the show "Duck Dynasty". I was not only surprised to hear that this show existed, but that it was one of the most popular shows on television. A large part of its appeal was the conservative values it displayed. 

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Well, their pied piper strategy didn't work.
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I know a lot of people (specifically conservatives) look at some of the stuff revealed in the Wikileaks dump and say that it was proof the fix was in, but I don't really buy that. For the most part, that's how politics works. Donna Brazile feeding questions to Hillary's camp was just plain unethical, but politicians and journalists who cover politics generally develop relationships. The fact that there was quid pro quo for Hillary wasn't an outlier. The fact that we had access to a big chunk of her email correspondence was.

That being said, there really is a tale of two Americas going on here. I think it's inaccurate to say that one is "very small" and a construct of lies, but the other does get ignored habitually. I remember a few years back when there was a controversy over the show "Duck Dynasty". I was not only surprised to hear that this show existed, but that it was one of the most popular shows on television. A large part of its appeal was the conservative values it displayed. 
Very good post, I agree that this is the way politics works. I'm sure this is the way politics works but that doesn't meant it's the way it should work. Bernie would have likely beat trump, Hillary was a seriously flawed candidate and the establishment pushed her through anyway. Donald was seriously flawed as well but I think he got a pass bc he wasn't a politician and was held to different standards as a result.

The question now is will the media, politicians, society recognize that silent majority or will they continue to marginlize them?