I disagree on the cutting on gear part. Maybe you retain muscle easily on a cut but personally, as a natural i simply shrink and my strengh completly sinks when calories get restricted.
To me it makes the most sense blasting the more gear on a big caloric deficit, yes you wont gain muscle (maybe a tiny bit tho) but you will lose fat FAST and without losing muscle tissue or strengh (both are related imo..). You are a bit "flat" but the muscle stays from the gear. The drugs also enhance fat loss, makes you less tired, more stamina for cardio or fast paced workouts.
To me gear is MANDATORY when cutting. I would never diet severly if not on anabolics.
Growing takes gear too but most importantly progress in the gym and lots of calories.
completely agree, but thats why i said
for beginners/naturalsi mean put a 2 year
natural lifter with average genetics and physique development on a cycle of 500mg test on a cutting diet
nothings gonna happen except for the fact that he wont lose muscle and maybe lose fat a tiny bit faster
put the same guy on 500mg test on a bulking diet and hell blow the fuck up and gain at least 20lbs within a few weeks
thats why i said
for a beginner steroids and low calories are a waste of time
now if you have an advanced lifter who regularly blasts and cruises in between or someone whos well above his natural genetic limit and tries to cut naturally or on low dosages... obviously hes gonna lose a fuckton of muscle...
if youre 200lbs 10% bodyfat and looking to cut down to shredded mode then you need a ton of AAS to not lose muscle
but if youre the average 180 lbs 15% bodyfat recreational steroid user then cutting on gear is a waste of time
and lets be real here, most people are no more than at best 180lbs soaking wet and a blubbery 15% bodyfat when first touching AAS.