Author Topic: Why do I always see Pro's doing so many Warmup Sets and not many Working sets?  (Read 13386 times)

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Blurry photos in your sliding glass door reflection.

How about a naked bathroom pic with a hard-on? I'm sure you'd like that

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So many text-only Olympia competitors on Getbig.

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Did you see what i said? "are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180???" YES when they're competing at the 170-180 they will look freaky...Just like the bantams that use tons of iu GH etc...This is constant years of building at this weight...Constant years of solidifying the fvck out of themselves at this weight...I am not talking the jim cordova's of the world...I am talking about the novice 170-180 on grams of gear...No training 1 working set past failure is not overtraining...Or even close to that...What the shmoes do going from machine to machine to exercise to exercise tons of sets 2-3 hr workouts and wanting to do that 2-3 times a week because they "love training and can't rest" for the same muscles are overtraining

agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....

bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these  ;D)

ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear  ;D

and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training

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So many text-only Olympia competitors on Getbig.

Who is a text-only olympia competitor? I certainly didn't say i was...Maybe you did? Who knows?

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agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....

bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these  ;D)

ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear  ;D

and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training


Just for the record i was not directing anything towards you when i was ranting...this is just simply what i see....So you should be able to grow fine off of that...If you don't then you know it's diet/training that isn't cutting it..

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Just for the record i was not directing anything towards you when i was ranting...this is just simply what i see....So you should be able to grow fine off of that...If you don't then you know it's diet/training that isn't cutting it..

no worries bro, you're a good dude, i was just busting your balls a bit ;D (no homo)

so you really think that going past failure on a regular basis won't lead to over-work/over-training?

i've found that the harder and heavier that i train the better i look, but it's a pain in the fucking ass training heavy all the time and going into the gym with the mindset to top your previous best
 
but maybe in my case it won't lead to over-training as easily for someone like me who only trains my pecs, delts and arms hard

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Davidtheman, what do u think of gironda like principles and very fast lighter weight training?

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no worries bro, you're a good dude, i was just busting your balls a bit ;D (no homo)

so you really think that going past failure on a regular basis won't lead to over-work/over-training?

i've found that the harder and heavier that i train the better i look, but it's a pain in the fucking ass training heavy all the time and going into the gym with the mindset to top your previous best
 
but maybe in my case it won't lead to over-training as easily for someone like me who only trains my pecs, delts and arms hard


Yes Jay Cutler used to/does train heavy as well and this is why he will tell you that he goes to the gym and never has a "day" in mind...Meaning he doesn't know if he's going to do back...Or he doesn't know if he's going to do legs....Because he will adjust his training accordingly to what is feeling good... More rest = more growth...you're training much less time this way and you're taking more time off but you're working harder...If that makes sense...This is the way to recruit those type 2b fibers and force growth in your muscles...This training will ELIMINATE genetic weakpoints...The fascia is hard to tear? Well too bad i am going to tear it anyway...That is the mindset you need to have each and everytime you get in the gym...That when you leave you know you gave it all you got...

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Davidtheman, what do u think of gironda like principles and very fast lighter weight training?

I know people but are mostly power lifters that swear by gironda type principals but this is because they're getting results on their lifts and not necessarily psyched about their body composition...

I don't like to shame good, organized training routines that are proven to work...I just say what i KNOW is the BEST WAY to build muscle especially for the average genetic guys like myself who had to earn everything they had...You can have a great physique with 8x8 training principal but realize that if you're extremely lean already and are trying to pack on the muscle it's gonna make you have to eat much more food than you already do as it's a high calorie burning routine....and i mean high-high...I like what it was originally implemented for and that's for pre contest when the metabolism is already revving and you aren't trying to pack on any size whatsoever...

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Did you like him as "the trainer"?

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I did volume training for years and i was never a strong guy.

Now i do 1 working set per exercice since 6 weeks, going all out
. Strenght goes up a lot every week so i'll train this way now

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I did volume training for years and i was never a strong guy.

Now i do 1 working set per exercice since 6 weeks, going all out
. Strenght goes up a lot every week so i'll train this way now

define "a lot"

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You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.

Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...

Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,

Please enlighten us with a picture of yourself in contest shape.
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Did you like him as "the trainer"?
well if it 's him then no..same with the bouncer/the'ect',harrigan all the same...

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agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....

bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these  ;D)

ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear  ;D

and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training
So you're taking Test Prop, Anadrol 50 and Dianabol AND YOU WEIGH 170 POUNDS?
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well if it 's him then no..same with the bouncer/the'ect',harrigan all the same...
bouncer was a genuine poster, he came over here to troll from BB.COM
I read his posts on the forum where he was bragging about winding people up

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So you're taking Test Prop, Anadrol 50 and Dianabol AND YOU WEIGH 170 POUNDS?

Guy is on small dosages, have you not forgotten how much a former poster who competed was taking (multiple grams) and weighed not much more

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bouncer was a genuine poster, he came over here to troll from BB.COM
I read his posts on the forum where he was bragging about winding people up
oh,,,he was the pretty jacked but facially challenged fella..

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oh,,,he was the pretty jacked but facially challenged fella..
he wasnt that bad, getbiggers picked up on his slightly lazy eye.

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he wasnt that bad, getbiggers picked up on his slightly lazy eye.
lol,,,what are u his p.r. guy..he came and left ,,I thought gimmick..i was wrong  8)

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Guy is on small dosages, have you not forgotten how much a former poster who competed was taking (multiple grams) and weighed not much more

The man said he's taking

50 mg Test prop every other day
50 mg Anadrol 50 every day
20 mg Dianabol every day

Are those IFBB dosages? No. But that's a solid program and there's no way anyone should run those products at those numbers and weigh 170- unless they're 5'1" tall, and 170 in contest ready weight.

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lol,,,what are u his p.r. guy..he came and left ,,I thought gimmick..i was wrong  8)
He came, owned everyone and left.

Yep, that was him.

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The man said he's taking

50 mg Test prop every other day
50 mg Anadrol 50 every day
20 mg Dianabol every day

Are those IFBB dosages? No. But that's a solid program and there's no way anyone should run those products at those numbers and weigh 170- unless they're 5'1" tall, and 170 is contest ready weight.


he's 5'10/5'11