UFC 193

[OneMoreRep]

one scary thought.....   if dana is not ready to stop milking the rousey cow, he could influence the results of the Hohm PED test ( and yes i have no doubt that is well within his abilities).   it won't stop the beating from having happened, but it will return her to a pristine record due to DQ.  i hope this doesn't happen, but it's not totally impossible.

one thing that won't change, the wired jaw will keep lousy rousey's mouth shut for two months.

It's possible, but I also believe Dana will want to keep the Holm train going, as we know rematches typically generate twice as much due to sheer anticipation.

Ronda got outclassed in every possible way. The idea that she could stand with Holm was laughable. I am surprised she didn't retreat to the ground immediately from the start, as I think she would have easily tapped Holm out. I understand that Ronda probably wanted to "show the world" that she could hang and possibly outbox a former world boxing champion, but that was dumb as shit (pride and ego always get the best of you).

Also, if she did get her jaw fractured early on in the fight, I could partly understand why she stayed away from the ground. That said, rolling on the canvas will certainly be painful to a fractured jaw, but taking straight jabs is possibly worse.

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[WalterWhite]

This is what gets me when people said that Holms has pillows for fists and soft punches.

If anyone were to ever spar with a professional boxer, they will realize that even a tap to the chin from those hands feels like a sledgehammer.

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And at the press conference Dana still put down boxers ability to transition to MMA.

This is the best pre fight breakdown on the net imho.

[OneMoreRep]

And at the press conference Dana still put down boxers ability to transition to MMA.

This is the best pre fight breakdown on the net imho.

Dana is just being, well, Dana. As always full of shit...

Dana knows that with this bullshit "ReeBok deal" and the shitty payouts, no professional boxer will trade their purse for this travesty.

Even glorified journeymen that never taste true glory probably get paid more within boxing than your average UFC fighters.

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[Slik]

Any links to a replay?

[Simple Simon]

It's possible, but I also believe Dana will want to keep the Holm train going, as we know rematches typically generate twice as much due to sheer anticipation.

Ronda got outclassed in every possible way. The idea that she could stand with Holm was laughable. I am surprised she didn't retreat to the ground immediately from the start, as I think she would have easily tapped Holm out. I understand that Ronda probably wanted to "show the world" that she could hang and possibly outbox a former world boxing champion, but that was dumb as shit (pride and ego always get the best of you).

Also, if she did get her jaw fractured early on in the fight, I could partly understand why she stayed away from the ground. That said, rolling on the canvas will certainly be painful to a fractured jaw, but taking straight jabs is possibly worse.

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I think that might have been the case, she had her mouth open bleeding and was gassed from 2 minutes in, would have to watch again but she took a peach of an elbow early on.

[Simple Simon]

Any links to a replay?

http://mmanext.com/ronda-rousey-vs-holly-holm-fight-video-ufc-193/

[OneMoreRep]

I think that might have been the case, she had her mouth open bleeding and was gassed from 2 minutes in, would have to watch again but she took a peach of an elbow early on.

Ouch!

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[f450]

Rouseys training camp needs to be replaced.

They were out to lunch from the start. You are supposed to study your opponent, Stay away from their strengths and ensnare them in yours.

If you are Rousey, you go for the early take down.

Who the fuck trades punches with a world champion boxer if you dont absolutely have to.

I think she actually believed her own hype and there was no one around to ground her.

[Walter Sobchak]

Kimbo Rousey....

Fatty lasted 3 minutes and then she was gassed.

Then she took a nap to catch up on her much needed sleep

[WalterWhite]

Rouseys training camp needs to be replaced.

They were out to lunch from the start. You are supposed to study your opponent, Stay away from their strengths and ensnare them in yours.

If you are Rousey, you go for the early take down.

Who the fuck trades punches with a world champion boxer if you dont absolutely have to.

I think she actually believed her own hype and there was no one around to ground her.

A quick look at her social media shows she was delusional and so were Dana and Joe Shmogan.

[hazbin]

It's possible, but I also believe Dana will want to keep the Holm train going, as we know rematches typically generate twice as much due to sheer anticipation.

Ronda got outclassed in every possible way. The idea that she could stand with Holm was laughable. I am surprised she didn't retreat to the ground immediately from the start, as I think she would have easily tapped Holm out. I understand that Ronda probably wanted to "show the world" that she could hang and possibly outbox a former world boxing champion, but that was dumb as shit (pride and ego always get the best of you).

Also, if she did get her jaw fractured early on in the fight, I could partly understand why she stayed away from the ground. That said, rolling on the canvas will certainly be painful to a fractured jaw, but taking straight jabs is possibly worse.

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I very respectfully disagree.   everyone assumes that a submission specialist 'chooses' to stand with a striker.  but everytime rousey was within 5 feet of Hohm she got puched in the face.   they were down twice; once could be called a rousey takedown, the other was definitely Hohm taking her down. she wasn't able to submit her either time.

[hazbin]

did everyone notice dana putting the belt on Holly??  he latched it, smacked the side of it and backed straight up to the back of the ring.   first time I've seen him present the belt and not congrat the champ

[OneMoreRep]

A quick look at her social media shows she was delusional and so were Dana and Joe Shmogan.

I like Joe. I actually like him a lot.

That said, I think he has been made into the official hype man of the UFC. When you look at the fighter promos, most of them now include a piece with Joe Rogan talking about the fighter's distinct talents, abilities and skills.

He readily throws around the term "the best pound for pound fighter on the planet".  I know that he still believes that Anderson Silva is/was the best MMA fighter of all time and, at the very least, his record can justify that, but much too frequently, Joe drives the UFC hype train.

With Ronda, I think Joe has been put in his place many times by people that visit his show. Brendan Schaub comes to mind. Schaub has told Rogan many times that Ronda is not the real deal and that while she is a good MMA fighter, her greatness is relative to the fact that the vast majority of female fighters in MMA today are unproven and have a resume that probably spans for all of 2-3 years.

In my opinion, the best MMA fighter alive right now is Jon Bones Jones. This is not because he has spent a lifetime working on this craft or even because he is so damn dedicated to becoming the best of all time, it is simply because he is genetically gifted and can also pick up shit faster than most trained fighters can.

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[Thin Lizzy]

Rouseys training camp needs to be replaced.

They were out to lunch from the start. You are supposed to study your opponent, Stay away from their strengths and ensnare them in yours.

If you are Rousey, you go for the early take down.

Who the fuck trades punches with a world champion boxer if you dont absolutely have to.

I think she actually believed her own hype and there was no one around to ground her.

Conversely, Holm was very well prepared. She countered Ronda's headlock throw well enough, the 1st time, to not end up on her back, and was able to defend the arm bar well enough to easily pull her arm out. The second attempt at the throw, Holm countered so well that she ended up on top.

They probably practiced that sequence, in training, endlessly.

[OneMoreRep]

I very respectfully disagree.   everyone assumes that a submission specialist 'chooses' to stand with a striker.  but everytime rousey was within 5 feet of Hohm she got puched in the face.   they were down twice; once could be called a rousey takedown, the other was definitely Hohm taking her down. she wasn't able to submit her either time.

I believe an Olympic-level Judo player can take anyone down. What I also believe is that Holm's camp was amazing and she trained endlessly to defend Ronda's key submissions & takedowns. When in the clinch, Ronda attempted to set up a takedown and it went nowhere. The Jackson-Winkeljohn combo is incredible and all the fighters they put out are beasts.

Either way, pure devastation ensued.

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[oldschoolfan]

This is what gets me when people said that Holms has pillows for fists and soft punches.

If anyone were to ever spar with a professional boxer, they will realize that even a tap to the chin from those hands feels like a sledgehammer.

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hey one more rep do you think holly held back in her first two ufc fights, cause i remember before entering the ufc she won almost all her fights by ko, and then in her first two fights she didnt look super dominant.

and then last night she just steamrolled that whore rousey.

im wondering if she did that  on purpose myself.  that was an ass whoopin

[hardgainerj]

Rousey has been exposed. Exactly like Tyson was. Once the aura of invincibility is gone, all of the wolves will challenge the alpha for dominance.

thats a crappy comparison

[OneMoreRep]

hey one more rep do you think holly held back in her first two ufc fights, cause i remember before entering the ufc she won almost all her fights by ko, and then in her first two fights she didnt look super dominant.

and then last night she just steamrolled that whore rousey.

im wondering if she did that  on purpose myself.  that was an ass whoopin

Honestly, I am not sure. I still do not follow women's MMA as much as I do men's MMA.

What I do know is that Holm has very good hands and footwork. If not from the striking, she would have continued to make Ronda gas to the point of pure exhaustion.

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[oldschoolfan]

Rouseys training camp needs to be replaced.

They were out to lunch from the start. You are supposed to study your opponent, Stay away from their strengths and ensnare them in yours.

If you are Rousey, you go for the early take down.

Who the fuck trades punches with a world champion boxer if you dont absolutely have to.

I think she actually believed her own hype and there was no one around to ground her.

actually i dont tink that is the casey i honestly believe ronda is so arrogant, she believed her own hype,    i really think she thought she was this world class boxer.

even in judo ronda was never near the best.      ronda is a prime example of  clever matchmaking and media hype.

and even if ronda does change camps she is so far behind hold, no way she improves that much in 6 monthes

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thats a crappy comparison

Indeed. Tyson was fighting at or near the top of the game in a well established, fully realized sport. And his downfall came after numerous personal crises. Rousey was simply the biggest fish in the tiniest of pools for a while.

[hazbin]

rousy should get a makeup contract. she certainly is evidence of the false advertising that it is.

[hazbin]

Indeed. Tyson was fighting at or near the top of the game in a well established, fully realized sport. And his downfall came after numerous personal crises. Rousey was simply the biggest fish in the tiniest of pools for a while.

yes, her first UFC fight was in 2013.   Jose Aldo has been undefeated in ten years less a week.

[WalterWhite]

I like Joe. I actually like him a lot.

That said, I think he has been made into the official hype man of the UFC. When you look at the fighter promos, most of them now include a piece with Joe Rogan talking about the fighter's distinct talents, abilities and skills.

He readily throws around the term "the best pound for pound fighter on the planet".  I know that he still believes that Anderson Silva is/was the best MMA fighter of all time and, at the very least, his record can justify that, but much too frequently, Joe drives the UFC hype train.

With Ronda, I think Joe has been put in his place many times by people that visit his show. Brendan Schaub comes to mind. Schaub has told Rogan many times that Ronda is not the real deal and that while she is a good MMA fighter, her greatness is relative to the fact that the vast majority of female fighters in MMA today are unproven and have a resume that probably spans for all of 2-3 years.

In my opinion, the best MMA fighter alive right now is Jon Bones Jones. This is not because he has spent a lifetime working on this craft or even because he is so damn dedicated to becoming the best of all time, it is simply because he is genetically gifted and can also pick up shit faster than most trained fighters can.

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I like Joe and know you rolled with him and found him to be a great guy.  That hype just starts to grate on your nerves and he loses credibility when bowing to fighters like Ronda.

Holly really showed a lot of class in all her interviews.

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