Travel restrictions on Muslims really outrageous?

[Donny]

Guess it wasn't so crazy when Carter( as president) banned any Iranians from entering the country( and tried to deport all Iranians on student visas) during the Iran Hostage crisis! But then he's immune to criticism as he was a democrat

was a diffrent time.. but.. these Guys saw it coming. I see it this way, they live in our countries they live by our laws and if we say no to the Burka then if they donīt like it...fuck off. They had a big thing about this in Germany recently. France Banned it and in my opinion 100% correct.

[BIG ACH]

Well you tell me, there are at least 2 instances of supposedly normal American muslims heading over to whateverstan and coming back full jihadi. Boston Marathon bombers and now the San Bernardino assclowns. Probably more just not reported. What exactly in happening to these people, that all of the sudden they are yelling allah akbar and killing the infidel?

 I didn't say  whateverstan (lol ) I specifically said, they are going to a Muslim country (THE Muslim country lol) Saudi Arabi, which is considered to be a major ally to the US....there are no travel bans or restrictions for American citizens to visit that country.  But You are saying a law should be imposed, barring good old non crazy Muslim Americans to visit, but anybody else can.  How does that not go against the US constitution?  Wasn't a major part of the founding of this country to allow anyone to practice their religion PEACEFULLY.

Let me use myself for example, I come from a Muslim family, but I am probably the worst example of a muslim ever, lol, I don't practice, I don't fast for Ramadan, I don't pray, I have eaten bacon lol, i check out slutty white girls, but my name is Ahmed , so you can say I'm Muslim by name or by tradition, but it pretty much ends there, aside from changing my name there is no way to hide it.  I am an American citizen, I love the US, I love American football and hate soccer, I love Coco (Ice-T's wife)  in general I don't give a shit about politics, and I died of laughter when South Park had a full episode on Islam.  

I pay my taxes, and I'm a big supporter of US vets, but..., I still have extended family in Egypt that maybe one day I want to visit again and say what up, pick up some conafa dessert.

 According to you... Because I was born into a Muslim family, because they  named me Ahmed, wasn't even my choice... Lol.... I should be given less rights than all my fellow Americans?  

[Donny]

I didn't say  whateverstan (lol ) I specifically said, they are going to a Muslim country (THE Muslim country lol) Saudi Arabi, which is considered to be a major ally to the US....there are no travel bans or restrictions for American citizens to visit that country.  But You are saying a law should be imposed, barring good old non crazy Muslim Americans to visit, but anybody else can.  How does that not go against the US constitution?  Wasn't a major part of the founding of this country to allow anyone to practice their religion PEACEFULLY.

Let me use myself for example, I come from a Muslim family, but I am probably the worst example of a muslim ever, lol, I don't practice, I don't fast for Ramadan, I don't pray, I have eaten bacon lol, i check out slutty white girls, but my name is Ahmed , so you can say I'm Muslim by name or by tradition, but it pretty much ends there, aside from changing my name there is no way to hide it.  I am an American citizen, I love the US, I love American football and hate soccer, I love Coco (Ice-T's wife)  in general I don't give a shit about politics, and I died of laughter when South Park had a full episode on Islam.  

I pay my taxes, and I'm a big supporter of US vets, but..., I still have extended family in Egypt that maybe one day I want to visit again and say what up, pick up some conafa dessert.

 According to you... Because I was born into a Muslim family, because they  named me Ahmed, wasn't even my choice... Lol.... I should be given less rights than all my fellow Americans?  

You hate soccer? WTF? 

[BIG ACH]

You hate soccer? WTF? 

Fucking hate it man!!!! Hate watching it and hate playing it even more.... You don't stop running, that is way too much fucking cardio for me!

[Donny]

Fucking hate it man!!!! Hate watching it and hate playing it even more.... You don't stop running, that is way too much fucking cardio for me!

Well at least you eat Bacon Bro... nothing like a Bacon Buttie...

[BIG ACH]

Well at least you eat Bacon Bro... nothing like a Bacon Buttie...

I don't eat it regularly... Not for religious reasons  but because I like  the taste of turkey Bacon more.

[Donny]

I don't eat it regularly... Not for religious reasons  but because I like  the taste of turkey Bacon more.

Fair one.. The Bacon Buttie is famous for us Brits with Brown or red sauce. i like red sauce myself 

[SuperTed]

Pellius in terms of world affairs/politics nothing you've got to say would go over the average 4 year old's head. That is clear from the rubbish you're posting here.
 
Your government keeps bombing/invading muslim countries causing relatively stable nations to spiral into civil war, and you interpret this as being "muslim sympathisers"

The scary thing is your ridiculously skewed perception is probably not even rare amongst americans.

The problem with pellius is that he views the world in black and white - good guys against bad guys. It's a rather childlike and simplistic view to hold especially for a man who seems reasonably well educated.

In his eyes, nations like America and Israel can do no wrong and every act they do can be justified. This is no different to how the Islamists think and it's why the conflicts will remain ongoing. Two equally fanatical sides who aren't capable (or intelligent enough) to realize the damage that they are doing.
Time to act like grown ups now and quit with this tit for tat nonsense.

[BIG ACH]

Fair one.. The Bacon Buttie is famous for us Brits with Brown or red sauce. i like red sauce myself 

I think its because growing up overseas I wasn't exposed to the taste of true Bacon, so eating it later in life, I just haven't acquired a taste for it. Same goes for drinking, I don't drink but its nothing to do with religion, its just that my parents never had it at home, so again I never acquired a taste for it.

My vice in my younger  years before marriage was the opposite sex

[residue]

I have never heard of beef Bacon but this is something that must be explored

duck bacon is even tastier

[Kazan]

I didn't say  whateverstan (lol ) I specifically said, they are going to a Muslim country (THE Muslim country lol) Saudi Arabi, which is considered to be a major ally to the US....there are no travel bans or restrictions for American citizens to visit that country.  But You are saying a law should be imposed, barring good old non crazy Muslim Americans to visit, but anybody else can.  How does that not go against the US constitution?  Wasn't a major part of the founding of this country to allow anyone to practice their religion PEACEFULLY.

Let me use myself for example, I come from a Muslim family, but I am probably the worst example of a muslim ever, lol, I don't practice, I don't fast for Ramadan, I don't pray, I have eaten bacon lol, i check out slutty white girls, but my name is Ahmed , so you can say I'm Muslim by name or by tradition, but it pretty much ends there, aside from changing my name there is no way to hide it.  I am an American citizen, I love the US, I love American football and hate soccer, I love Coco (Ice-T's wife)  in general I don't give a shit about politics, and I died of laughter when South Park had a full episode on Islam.  

I pay my taxes, and I'm a big supporter of US vets, but..., I still have extended family in Egypt that maybe one day I want to visit again and say what up, pick up some conafa dessert.

 According to you... Because I was born into a Muslim family, because they  named me Ahmed, wasn't even my choice... Lol.... I should be given less rights than all my fellow Americans?  

The Saudi's are not a US allie, no matter what .gov says. You said the key words practice their religion peacefully, apparently the Chechen nuckleheads and Farouk were either non practicing or peaceful at some point. Then all of the sudden they blow up a marathon or walk shoot a bunch of people. What is the trigger? Where in their travels did the jihadi light bulb go on?

[Donny]

I think its because growing up overseas I wasn't exposed to the taste of true Bacon, so eating it later in life, I just haven't acquired a taste for it. Same goes for drinking, I don't drink but its nothing to do with religion, its just that my parents never had it at home, so again I never acquired a taste for it.

My vice in my younger  years before marriage was the opposite sex

I met a German woman who was married to a Turkish Man and lived in Turkey some years. She told me  Islamic women are not as innocent as people think. I am not sure if this is true or not.

[The Ugly]

I didn't say  whateverstan (lol ) I specifically said, they are going to a Muslim country (THE Muslim country lol) Saudi Arabi, which is considered to be a major ally to the US....there are no travel bans or restrictions for American citizens to visit that country.  But You are saying a law should be imposed, barring good old non crazy Muslim Americans to visit, but anybody else can.  How does that not go against the US constitution?  Wasn't a major part of the founding of this country to allow anyone to practice their religion PEACEFULLY.

Let me use myself for example, I come from a Muslim family, but I am probably the worst example of a muslim ever, lol, I don't practice, I don't fast for Ramadan, I don't pray, I have eaten bacon lol, i check out slutty white girls, but my name is Ahmed , so you can say I'm Muslim by name or by tradition, but it pretty much ends there, aside from changing my name there is no way to hide it.  I am an American citizen, I love the US, I love American football and hate soccer, I love Coco (Ice-T's wife)  in general I don't give a shit about politics, and I died of laughter when South Park had a full episode on Islam.  

I pay my taxes, and I'm a big supporter of US vets, but..., I still have extended family in Egypt that maybe one day I want to visit again and say what up, pick up some conafa dessert.

 According to you... Because I was born into a Muslim family, because they  named me Ahmed, wasn't even my choice... Lol.... I should be given less rights than all my fellow Americans?  

They're not doing this very well.

[SuperTed]

The Saudi's are not a US allie, no matter what .gov says. You said the key words practice their religion peacefully, apparently the Chechen nuckleheads and Farouk were either non practicing or peaceful at some point. Then all of the sudden they blow up a marathon or walk shoot a bunch of people. What is the trigger? Where in their travels did the jihadi light bulb go on?

With the internet and social media nowadays, someone can get radicalized or mentally distorted in the comfort of their own bedroom. I don't think going abroad and visiting a foreign nation is going to make any major difference in how someone thinks.

[BIG ACH]

The Saudi's are not a US allie, no matter what .gov says. You said the key words practice their religion peacefully, apparently the Chechen nuckleheads and Farouk were either non practicing or peaceful at some point. Then all of the sudden they blow up a marathon or walk shoot a bunch of people. What is the trigger? Where in their travels did the jihadi light bulb go on?

Those are good questions about the triggers etc.... but you still didn't answer my question... Should I  be given less rights as an American because my name and my background?

[BIG ACH]

I met a German woman who was married to a Turkish Man and lived in Turkey some years. She told me  Islamic women are not as innocent as people think. I am not sure if this is true or not.

I dunno... I generally preferred the white meat

[Kazan]

Those are good questions about the triggers etc.... but you still didn't answer my question... Should I  be given less rights as an American because my name and my background?

No, because you haven't done anything wrong. That is the slippery slope we are on, and why the "moderate" muslims need to root these fuckers out.

[Kazan]

With the internet and social media nowadays, someone can get radicalized or mentally distorted in the comfort of their own bedroom. I don't think going abroad and visiting a foreign nation is going to make any major difference in how someone thinks.

Perhaps, but maybe they get the bug, then head over to asscrackistan to get some training

[BIG ACH]

No, because you haven't done anything wrong.

And neither had that fucker Farouk prior to last week

That is the slippery slope we are on, and why the "moderate" muslims need to root these fuckers out.

 Lol you know we don't have a radar on our head that goes off every time a radical Muslim walks by... Someone like me would be just as lost as you when it comes to rooting them out.

[Donny]

I dunno... I generally preferred the white meat

OK Bro you are getbig approved. No seriously the fact that you post here shows you are ok with what is written here.

[BIG ACH]

OK Bro you are getbig approved. No seriously the fact that you post here shows you are ok with what is written here.

Well I do honestly believe this is a discussion that needs to take place, and it is a major problem... But at what expense do we plan on solving it?  At the expense of the US constitution?

[SF1900]

Well I do honestly believe this is a discussion that needs to take place, and it is a major problem... But at what expense do we plan on solving it?  At the expense of the US constitution?

Alright, cut all this shit. Lets get down to more IMPORTANT business.

BIG ACH, do you still actually believe that Doug Miller is natural? You have stated before that you believe  he is natural. Speak on this, honestly.

[BIG ACH]

Alright, cut all this shit. Lets get down to more IMPORTANT business.

BIG ACH, do you still actually believe that Doug Miller is natural? You have stated before that you believe  he is natural. Speak on this, honestly.

Lol you refuse to let this go... At the expense of being called a pussy, I refuse to be roped into this discussion lol. You know my thoughts

[SuperTed]

Perhaps, but maybe they get the bug, then head over to asscrackistan to get some training

Perhaps, but I don't think a visit to an Islamic nation will  be a major turning point. Someone who is a driven towards extremism will be a danger whether they go abroad or not. It's not exactly difficult to get some firearm training in America and all the extremist material can be done online.

[Donny]

Well I do honestly believe this is a discussion that needs to take place, and it is a major problem... But at what expense do we plan on solving it?  At the expense of the US constitution?

Canīt speak for the US and i was never over there but as i wrote i believe that if Muslims come to Europe they should confirm with our laws.