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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #400 on: February 15, 2016, 12:26:50 PM »
Again, to be crystal clear, you do not need even a moment of professed belief in God to live out a second of your life. 

From birth to death you can successfully exist without a moment of God in your life.

Isn't one going to be in a state of sin and therefore corrupt and depraved?

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #401 on: February 15, 2016, 12:31:28 PM »
Isn't one going to be in a state of sin and therefore corrupt and depraved?

Living in a state of sin?  Absolutely.  Fully corrupt and depraved?  Certainly not everyone, yet still separated from God because of sin. 

Living without God in this life will have you exist without God in eternity. 

Still, as far as today and the rest of the days in your life are concerned you can do whatever ya wanna.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #402 on: February 15, 2016, 12:37:00 PM »
Living in a state of sin?  Absolutely.  Fully corrupt and depraved?  Certainly not everyone, yet still separated from God because of sin.  

Living without God in this life will have you exist without God in eternity.  

Still, as far as today and the rest of the days in your life are concerned you can do whatever ya wanna.

So sinners are not totally depraved, hopelessly lost and all that?

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #403 on: February 15, 2016, 12:40:05 PM »
So sinners are not totally depraved, hopelessly lost and all that?
See Dante's Inferno for the different levels, lol.  ;D

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #404 on: February 15, 2016, 12:44:37 PM »
Living in a state of sin?  Absolutely.  Fully corrupt and depraved?  Certainly not everyone, yet still separated from God because of sin. 

Living without God in this life will have you exist without God in eternity. 

Still, as far as today and the rest of the days in your life are concerned you can do whatever ya wanna.

I'm not going to go into a debate about religion, as it's well outside my genuine interests.

Concerning the following:
"Living without god [...] without god in eternity".

That's quite the statement to make. When you are neither God, nor has the existence of such an entity being confirmed or authenticated.
This, combined with your last sentence makes you come off as a smug know it all.

Which is fine, you can do whatever ya wanna.



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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #405 on: February 15, 2016, 01:57:36 PM »
I'm not going to go into a debate about religion, as it's well outside my genuine interests.

Concerning the following:
"Living without god [...] without god in eternity".

That's quite the statement to make. When you are neither God, nor has the existence of such an entity being confirmed or authenticated.
This, combined with your last sentence makes you come off as a smug know it all.

Which is fine, you can do whatever ya wanna.





It's just scripture.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #406 on: February 15, 2016, 02:01:14 PM »
So sinners are not totally depraved, hopelessly lost and all that?

Total depravity is a pretty absolute statement about someone.  I certainly wouldn't pass that judgment upon everyone.  I have no doubt there are fully reprobate folks today.

Now, are people that are without salvation by grace through faith Jesus Christ depraved and sinful and worthy of God's justice?  Are they unrighteous? Yes.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #407 on: February 15, 2016, 02:03:10 PM »
Now, are people that are without salvation by grace through faith Jesus Christ depraved and sinful and worthy of God's justice?  Are they unrighteous? Yes.

I am glad it is only in your imagination.
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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #408 on: February 15, 2016, 02:09:15 PM »
I am glad it is only in your imagination.


I'm giving you serious warning because I do care about you and letting you know of the reality of God's grace and wrath.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #409 on: February 15, 2016, 02:12:49 PM »
Total depravity is a pretty absolute statement about someone.  I certainly wouldn't pass that judgment upon everyone.  I have no doubt there are fully reprobate folks today.

Now, are people that are without salvation by grace through faith Jesus Christ depraved and sinful and worthy of God's justice?  Are they unrighteous? Yes.

So a human being can exist away from God, in a depraved, unrighteous (read: not in accordance with right or justice) state but live a successful life as per your comment above.

Final question, what do you mean by "successful" life?

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #410 on: February 15, 2016, 02:17:46 PM »
So a human being can exist away from God, in a depraved, unrighteous (read: not in accordance with right or justice) state but live a successful life per your comment above.

Final question, what do you mean by "successful" life?

Yes.

However you choose to define success.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #411 on: February 15, 2016, 02:24:06 PM »
I'm giving you serious warning because I do care about you and letting you know of the reality of God's grace and wrath.


Apparently you fail to realize you were probably manipulated from an early age on.
If not... even worse.

Maybe you need some false sense of security in this crazy unpredictable world and therefore resort to beliefs that try to bring it all in some kind of "order".
Or you were recruited based on your own personal fears.
I don't know.

Anyway...
You still fail to see through this manipulation.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #412 on: February 15, 2016, 02:29:19 PM »
Apparently you fail to realize you were probably manipulated from an early age on.
If not... even worse.

Maybe you need some false sense of security in this crazy unpredictable world and therefore resort to beliefs that try to bring it all in some kind of "order".
Or you were recruited based on your own personal fears.
I don't know.

Anyway...
You still fail to see through this manipulation.


I was manipulated at a young age....by the influence of nonbelievers.....that's all over with.

If God revealed his reality to you in whatever fashion you preferred would you then give your life to him and live for him?

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #413 on: February 15, 2016, 02:36:44 PM »
If God revealed his reality to you in whatever fashion you preferred would you then give your life to him and live for him?

There is no reality to a concept.
Give my life to a concept?
I'm not sure if it even is "my life".
And even then why give it away?

You lost me there...
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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #414 on: February 15, 2016, 02:40:42 PM »
There is no reality to a concept.
Give my life to a concept?
I'm not sure if it even is "my life".
And even then why give it away?

You lost me there...


Let's just pretend we're past all the dodges, red herrings, sudden bout of ignorance, restatements/rephrases, the "what do you mean by" angle and other such tactics.

How do you answer?  

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #415 on: February 15, 2016, 02:42:07 PM »
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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #416 on: February 15, 2016, 02:45:05 PM »
Let's just pretend we're past all the dodges, red herrings, sudden bout of ignorance, restatements/rephrases, the "what do you mean by" angle and other such tactics.

How do you answer?  

Not using tactics.
I already answered that.
It won't change.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #417 on: February 15, 2016, 02:46:12 PM »
Let's just pretend we're past all the dodges, red herrings, sudden bout of ignorance, restatements/rephrases, the "what do you mean by" angle and other such tactics.

Those tactics are called the Socratic method. It has been a staple in philosophy and law for thousands of years.

It's excellent for uncovering contradictions, confused thinking, etc as it did here.


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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #418 on: February 15, 2016, 02:48:27 PM »
Those tactics are called the Socratic method. It has been a staple in philosophy and law for thousands of years.

It's excellent for uncovering contradictions, confused thinking, etc as it did here.



They're avoidance tactics LOL.  And y'all ain't Socrates and neither am I.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #419 on: February 15, 2016, 02:49:26 PM »
Not using tactics.
I already answered that.
It won't change.



My question requires a "yes" or "no" answer.   So which is it?

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #420 on: February 15, 2016, 02:52:26 PM »
My question requires a "yes" or "no" answer.   So which is it?

The question is not a valid question.
It assumes impossibilities.
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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #421 on: February 15, 2016, 02:54:11 PM »
The question is not a valid question.
It assumes impossibilities.


Give me a break and answer the question LOL.

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« Reply #422 on: February 15, 2016, 02:55:13 PM »
Give me a break and answer the question LOL.

LOL.
I can't.
There is no question for me.
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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #423 on: February 15, 2016, 02:56:32 PM »
LOL.
I can't.
There is no question for me.


Nice one.

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Re: This continuous rat-race: The Omnipotent skylord dogs are inferior meltdown
« Reply #424 on: February 15, 2016, 02:58:42 PM »
LOL.
I can't.
There is no question for me.


You understand exactly what I'm saying, I know you know what I'm saying, you're refusing to answer, playing a funny little game and giggling behind your keyboard.

I just plead with you to examine God's word some day.  Maybe come to him in prayer.  Look at all the evidence for scripture, Jesus Christ, the witness of believers and get out from behind rhetoric and silly games.