IQ and religion

[DroppingPlates]

By now you should know that particular item is kept within the heart, not the brain. I am who I am.

Within the heart is what romantic people tend to believe (with their brains)
Yes, you are who you are, which is good, but every day we're making small internal changes.

[OB1]

By now you should know that particular item is kept within the heart, not the brain. I am who I am.

I am that I am.

[The Scott]

Within the heart is what romantic people tend to believe (with their brains)
Yes, you are who you are, which is good, but every day we're making small internal changes.

I question my faith on a nearly daily basis and to date have no problem with doing so, my friend.  One of the smartest men I have ever known was an Atheist and a dear friend.

[The Scott]

I am that I am.

Mine was a play on those words.  Some might say it was more Popeye than God.  Given that I am mortal I would go with Popeye.   

[Parker]

Does anybody remember the "Why You Can't Win Arguments Online"? Well here it is again.

[OB1]

Mine was a play on those words.  Some might say it was more Popeye than God.  Given that I am mortal I would go with Popeye.   

LOL!
Ok.

[Man of Steel]

http://psr.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/08/02/1088868313497266.abstract

Abstract
"A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity. The association was stronger for college students and the general population than for participants younger than college age; it was also stronger for religious beliefs than religious behavior. For college students and the general population, means of weighted and unweighted correlations between intelligence and the strength of religious beliefs ranged from −.20 to −.25 (mean r = −.24). Three possible interpretations were discussed. First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, several functions of religiosity, including compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence. Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices."

Yep theists are dumb and atheists are smart....super old news.

Here's another random study to chew on:

http://www.livescience.com/51192-nuts-peanuts-protect-against-death.html

[Man of Steel]

Or here you go.....bibliotards are also racists:

http://mic.com/articles/29397/religious-people-tend-to-be-more-racist-study-finds#.7wb9HbwkA

[Man of Steel]

Or religion and sexism:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045317/

[Man of Steel]

Or religion and obesity:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358928/

[Man of Steel]

Or religion and depression:

http://www.alternet.org/are-religious-people-more-depressed

[Radical Plato]

Of course theists are dumb, you literally have to turn a part of your brain off to think as they do.  Imagine looking at the complexity of the Universe and saying to yourself "I wonder how that works" and responding with "dunno, a God did it" never to explore further. If they weren't so self righteous and determined to control everyone else I would feel sorry for them, but since they are such pains in the arses I would be happy to feed them to Lions. 

[The Scott]

Or here you go.....bibliotards are also racists:

http://mic.com/articles/29397/religious-people-tend-to-be-more-racist-study-finds#.7wb9HbwkA

MoS my friend, as John would say, just because someone's an Atheist or a Christian doesn't give them the right to be an asshole.  Nothing that the Christ said is worthy of derision  but rather, emulation.  

I have gotten to the point that when I sense stupidity here I simply answer in kind, which all too often is less than kind.  But then, most assholists (i.e., poor representatives of Atheism) expect us to turn the other cheek.  I tell them I do that only for people that slap me for His sake, not because they're buttwipes.

You are a better man than I.

[Man of Steel]

Or religion and poverty:

http://thehumanist.com/news/national/why-are-the-poor-more-religious

[Man of Steel]

Pick a desired negative correlation with religion and [insert topic] and you'll find "a study".......pick your poison.

[DroppingPlates]

I question my faith on a nearly daily basis and to date have no problem with doing so, my friend.  One of the smartest men I have ever known was an Atheist and a dear friend.

All of that is good to hear and it confirms my view on you, being a thoughtful and honest person. It's good to stay in touch with people with other beliefs, as long as there's mutual respect.

[Man of Steel]

MoS my friend, as John would say, just because someone's an Atheist or a Christian doesn't give them the right to be an asshole.  Nothing that the Christ said is worthy of derision  but rather, emulation.  

I have gotten to the point that when I sense stupidity here I simply answer in kind, which all too often is less than kind.  But then, most assholists (i.e., poor representatives of Atheism) expect us to turn the other cheek.  I tell them I do that only for people that slap me for His sake, not because they're buttwipes.

You are a better man than I.

I hear you and I understand.

I'm not a better man than you or any of the folks on this board.

Now I'm certainly dumber than some LOL!!

[Man of Steel]

So in the end the "studies" clearly indicate that those that love God are poor, dumb, uneducated, racist, sexist, depressed fatties.

And those that hate God (excuse me, can't hate what doesn't exist  ) are wealthy, smart, educated, tolerant, happy, fit folks geared towards equality.

Oh yeah, I forgot the obligatory response to my posts in this thread:  meltdown....tl/dr

[DroppingPlates]

So in the end the "studies" clearly indicate that those that love God are poor, dumb, uneducated, racist, sexist, depressed fatties.

And those that hate God (excuse me, can't hate what doesn't exist  ) are wealthy, smart, educated, tolerant, happy, fit folks geared towards equality.

Guess you're too dumb to understand how statistics work (hint: not black/white, but grey)

[The Scott]

I hear you and I understand.

I'm not a better man than you or any of the folks on this board.

Now I'm certainly dumber than some LOL!!

Your faith is most likely stronger than mine but I continuously put the welding torch to the cracks I cause and hope  that the weld is stronger than the surrounding material.  I think, not just believe, that God doesn't mind if we question Him as elsewise why would be created as we were, in His image but with a mind and a will of our own?   I must use all I have been given by my parents, my friends and by God.

Unfortunately for some here and in the real world, that would included a sense of humor and a way with words.  I can thank my mom and John for the latter.  The former comes from life.  

Be well.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Einstein's writings about "God" went up for auction


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/11/albert-einstein-was-no-atheist-27-letters-up-for-a/

[Man of Steel]

Guess you're too dumb to understand how statistics work (hint: not black/white, but grey)

If I told you I have taken university level statistics along with other advanced math courses and was successful in all classes and graduated with a degree would it make a bit of difference LOL?

No worries, I already know the answer.  

[Raymondo]

Einstein's writings about "God" went up for auction


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/11/albert-einstein-was-no-atheist-27-letters-up-for-a/

Yes, he had a complicated notion that was similar to God as found in the philosophy of Spinoza. It had little to do with what theists believe in. There is no point in pray to his God, because it would like praying to the law of gravity.

Here is an excerpt from the letters:

“I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist. … I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being,”

[OB1]

The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself.

[Man of Steel]

The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself.

Well, when it comes to statistics concerning religion it's really simple: 

whichever studies conclude that religion is negative are correct.
whichever studies conclude that religion is positive are incorrect.