A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth

[wes]

Dieting on donuts just doesn`t get you ripped.


Please,no calorie is a calorie replies wanted.

[lilhawk1]

Carbs, protein and fats all work the same way.

Lets say you want to ingest 200 grams of protein. It doesnt matter where the 200 grams come from. If I eat 15 slices of cake to get 200 grams of protein, that is the same as eating 5 chicken breasts to get 200 grams of protein. Your body doesnt know where the protein is coming from.

The same with carbs. If you need to ingest 100 grams of carbs, you can get those carbs from anywhere.

The point being is that as long as you dont go passed what your body needs, you're fine.

/thread

So one could diet for a contest on nothing my but ice cream and still get shredded?

[dseiler]

So one could diet for a contest on nothing my but ice cream and still get shredded?

Ask Mentzer. He knows.

[drkaje]

Yes, there are literally hundreds of scientific studies performed on various animals.  PubMed has many of them. 

Science can't compete with the wisdom of GetBiggers.

[Twaddle]

Science can't compete with the wisdom of GetBiggers.

I'm beginning to understand.   

[Explorerspl]

In terms of dieting down if you are getting enough protein and cals to maintain muscle mass, and you're in a calorie deficit in total, how would you look any worse? Science says you would lose fat and maintain muscle not get fat in a calorie deficit because you are eating too much sugar and its spiking your insulin(which is fucking retarded to worry about on a BB forum where the main drug used in the sport is insulin)

[Never1AShow]

Carbs, as already previously mentioned break down into complex carbs and simple carbs which have completely different effects on the body.

This is basically the issue.  Says who regarding complex v. simple.  Many say it affects the body the same.  Sugar is sugar, calorie is calorie.  I don't believe it but many do.

[ritch]

This is basically the issue.  Says who regarding complex v. simple.  Many say it affects the body the same.  Sugar is sugar, calorie is calorie.  I don't believe it but many do.

 

[_aj_]

In terms of dieting down if you are getting enough protein and cals to maintain muscle mass, and you're in a calorie deficit in total, how would you look any worse? Science says you would lose fat and maintain muscle not get fat in a calorie deficit because you are eating too much sugar and its spiking your insulin(which is fucking retarded to worry about on a BB forum where the main drug used in the sport is insulin)

N00b nutritional meltdown.

[lilhawk1]

In terms of dieting down if you are getting enough protein and cals to maintain muscle mass, and you're in a calorie deficit in total, how would you look any worse? Science says you would lose fat and maintain muscle not get fat in a calorie deficit because you are eating too much sugar and its spiking your insulin(which is fucking retarded to worry about on a BB forum where the main drug used in the sport is insulin)

Don't even have a response for this. 

[Explorerspl]

N00b nutritional meltdown.

Don't even have a response for this. 

Probably because you are both old and stuck in your old ways. Unless you are dieting down to contest shape there won't be a difference besides health. I don't see how you think with adequate protein and staying in a deficit that  having a candy bar a few times a week instead of potatoes will make a difference in fat loss.

[SF1900]

A carb is not a carb.
A calorie is not a calorie.

A calorie breaks down basically into protein, carbs and fat or any combination of these.

Protein breaks down into complete protein sources (which contain all 9 essential amino acids, mostly animal protein),
and incomplete protein sources (which don't contain all 9 essential amino acids, mostly plant protein).
Incomplete protein sources can be combined to form a complete protein source though.

Carbs, as already previously mentioned break down into complex carbs and simple carbs which have completely different effects on the body.

Fat breaks down into saturated fat and unsaturated fat where unsaturated fat, especially poly-unsatured fat (such as high quality vegetable oil) is to prefer.

True Adonis said a calorie is just a calorie.

[SF1900]

You can eat anything you want, as long as you dont consume more calories than your body needs. Look at Goodrums physique.

[SF1900]

So one could diet for a contest on nothing my but ice cream and still get shredded?

Pretty much. "All that matters is that you dont consume more calories than what your body needs." True Adonis

For example, if your body needs 2000 calories to thrive, and you take in more than 2000 calories, than you will put on body fat.

However, if you eat only 1,999 calories of ice cream, you can still get shredded because you have no exceeded your caloric intake of 2000.

[OB1]

True Adonis said a calorie is just a calorie.

Taken literally this might be true.
But in reality not all calories are created equal.

[SF1900]

Taken literally this might be true.
But in reality not all calories are created equal.

Ill send True Adonis a message about this and see what his response is.

[Coach is Back!]

Carbs, protein and fats all work the same way.

Lets say you want to ingest 200 grams of protein. It doesnt matter where the 200 grams come from. If I eat 15 slices of cake to get 200 grams of protein, that is the same as eating 5 chicken breasts to get 200 grams of protein. Your body doesnt know where the protein is coming from.

The same with carbs. If you need to ingest 100 grams of carbs, you can get those carbs from anywhere.

The point being is that as long as you dont go passed what your body needs, you're fine.

/thread

lol

[Coach is Back!]

True Adonis said a calorie is just a calorie.

"True Adonis said" lmao

[OB1]

Ill send True Adonis a message about this and see what his response is.

I doubt anyone would be interested in said response.

[SF1900]

Another bullshit thread here on getbig!   

Quiet, Jedi Elf!!

[SF1900]

I doubt anyone would be interested in said response.

 

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=590220.0

She states, "It doesn't matter if you fill your macros with 10 oreos or 5 gallons of brocolli. As long as you are eating based on your body composition and goals, you can maintain your body and build muscle while gaining minimal fat. Your body doesn't differentiate a slice of pizza from a salad with meat, cheese, dressing, and croutons  (which can have the same macros).

[OB1]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=590220.0

She states, "It doesn't matter if you fill your macros with 10 oreos or 5 gallons of brocolli. As long as you are eating based on your body composition and goals, you can maintain your body and build muscle while gaining minimal fat. Your body doesn't differentiate a slice of pizza from a salad with meat, cheese, dressing, and croutons  (which can have the same macros).

Apart from this being utter nonsense she doesn't mention anything about carbs.

Let her eat only pizza for one month.
Then only salad with meat, cheese, dressing and croutons the next month.
Let's see if she will still say it's the same.

I doubt it.

[Mike]

Apart from this being utter nonsense she doesn't mention anything about carbs.

Let her eat only pizza for one month.
Then only salad with meat, cheese, dressing and croutons the next month.
Let's see if she will still say it's the same.

I doubt it.

I think youre missing the point.

By saying "macros" they are including carbohydrates (a macro-nutrient)
The claim is you WILL be the same if your macronutrients (carb/fat/prot) and calories are what youve intended them to be, regardless of the source.

Ive done IIFYM, Keto, Atkins, raw/vegan, pea protein, bb diet, etc.  my body reacts best to extrmemly low carbohydrates (and most likely kcals) and exogenous testosterone

[OB1]

The claim is you WILL be the same if your macronutrients (carb/fat/prot) and calories are what youve intended them to be, regardless of the source.

Of course...
but it's wrong to go just by carbs/fat/protein alone.

There are different types which have completely different effects on the body.
Some of them you might want to avoid.

For example:
Carbs break down into simple carbs and complex carbs.
Fat breaks down into saturated fat and unsaturated fat which breaks down into monounsaturated fat and polyunsaturated fat.
Protein breaks down into complete and incomplete protein.

It's just not all the same.

[ritch]

You can eat anything you want, as long as you dont consume more calories than your body needs. Look at Goodrums physique.

Well, seems I stand corrected!