Author Topic: Video shows Trump's campaign manager lied. Now what? (Read 6378 times)

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2016, 07:28:45 PM »

Quote from: SOMEPARTS on March 30, 2016, 07:16:26 PM

This is pretty strong stuff, haha. Teflon Don has the IT factor to be a politician.

Strong stuff indeed. Making Anderson Pooper look like the dishonest twat that he is.

240 is Back · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2016, 09:42:39 PM »

i think she faked injuries and over-dramatized the hands on her to be a victim.
I think he was justified in touching her because she did rush at trump in a threatening manner... dude used to be a cop in NH, and he was watching her hands all the way.
BUT
He did the typical piece of shit move... Lied about it "I didn't even touch her" instead of saying yes he did touch her, and it was justified.

Video shows he DID touch her. So he lied. There is proof he lied, and no proof that she lied... so he gets charged.

if he'd just been honest from the get-go and said "She made a lunge, I slowed her to make sure she wasn't going to hurt him... it's florida and I feared for a forcible felony... Once I saw hands were clear, I released her.

Just don't lie like a piece of crap, you don't get arrested here. Typical.

SOMEPARTS · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2016, 11:08:55 PM »

Agree with all above but we live in an over-litigated society that punishes truth as guilt in something small like this. ANY lawyer would say he did the right thing to deny. Only Trump would stand up for the guy. Anybody else would've dumped him the day the story broke.

Hearing Trump stick up for the guy is such a rare thing it's almost shocking to hear.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2016, 11:13:07 PM »

Trump says a lot of dumb shit but on the serious issues I think he's right where the average American is. Common sense, rational.

Too bad half the country will never know that because of the press and the know-nothing protesters.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2016, 09:30:54 AM »

Quote from: polychronopolous on March 29, 2016, 06:26:28 PM

Alot of respect for Trump for standing by his man even though it might not be the best thing to do politically speaking. The vast, vast majority of other candidates would not do the same.

The way the media is trying to railroad this Corey Lewandowski guy is a damn shame.

What this says to me is "So what his campaign manager lied and then disparaged her by calling her delusional even though he did what she and the witness said he did. Lying is perfectly okay and Trump not holding him accountable indicates he won't hold anyone in his administration accountable so if another gun running thing like Eric Holder was involved in occurs, I fully expect him to make excuses and not fire him as well and you know, I'm perfectly okay with that"

Your thoughts?

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 31, 2016, 09:32:38 AM »

To me, it's not about the fact he grabbed her. It's about the fact he lied about it and attempted to paint her as delusional and the liar. That Trump supporters can't get this helps explain why they support him

chaos · « **Reply #31 on:** March 31, 2016, 11:59:41 AM »

Quote from: Agnostic007 on March 31, 2016, 09:32:38 AM

To me, it's not about the fact he grabbed her. It's about the fact he lied about it and attempted to paint her as delusional and the liar. That Trump supporters can't get this helps explain why they support him

Yes, I'm sure she's the only one he's had to put his hands on and move out of the way.

Maybe he should stop and get the personal info and a picture of every person he comes into contact with at every convention.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #32 on:** March 31, 2016, 12:17:58 PM »

Wow, some jostling at an important press conference, imagine that.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 31, 2016, 01:04:46 PM »

Quote from: chaos on March 31, 2016, 11:59:41 AM

Yes, I'm sure she's the only one he's had to put his hands on and move out of the way.
Maybe he should stop and get the personal info and a picture of every person he comes into contact with at every convention.

then....... I would expect to hear;

"I don't know if I touched or grabbed her or not. There was a lot of people too close and I did move some back""

"I could have possibly done it, I know I grabbed someone"

but I wouldn't expect "No, never touched her, she's delusional." See the difference? One is a lie, one is not

240 is Back · « **Reply #34 on:** March 31, 2016, 03:12:56 PM »

She came at trump, I put hands out to make sure he was safe. That's fine.

"This delusional liar, I never touched her" is not.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:05:40 PM »

After NBA Finals games, I've seen reporters physically grab players or their jerseys and pull them to make sure that they are the one that gets the post-game interview.

That is just one small example but I think that any reporter should expect some grabbing, pushing and jostling in a crowd when trying to get questions answered.

They do it, and it is done to them....all the fucking time. Go sue yourself you stupid bitch. Either that or get a desk job where you won't be touched.

240 is Back · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:08:34 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:05:40 PM

After NBA Finals games, I've seen reporters physically grab players or their jerseys and pull them to make sure that they are the one that gets the post-game interview.

That is just one small example but I think that any reporter should expect some grabbing, pushing and jostling in a crowd when trying to get questions answered.

They do it, and it is done to them....all the fucking time. Go sue yourself you stupid bitch. Either that or get a desk job where you won't be touched.

Point is, the former COP that works for trump LIED to the public and ACCUSED her of making up being touched.

He's a POS liar... and he's likely going to be Trump's chief of staff. more reasons not to elect his liberal ass.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:10:21 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 31, 2016, 08:08:34 PM

Point is, the former COP that works for trump LIED to the public and ACCUSED her of making up being touched.

He's a POS liar... and he's likely going to be Trump's chief of staff. more reasons not to elect his liberal ass.

A liar, you say? lol. Our political system is based on lies. This is about the least important one I've ever heard.

If this guy is a POS liar then what is Hitlery Clinton?

240 is Back · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:12:53 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:10:21 PM

A liar, you say? lol. Our political system is based on lies. This is about the least important one I've ever heard.
If this guy is a POS liar then what is Hitlery Clinton?

hilary belongs in a jail cell.

But this POS cannot accuse someone of lying and put his hands on a woman - and lie about it - because hilary did something worse.

imagine Jeffrey Dahmer telling the judge "Bro, you gotta let me go... I killed like 20 people... I mean, Stalin killed MILLIONS... these 20 kills are the LEAST important ones"

His crime and lies stand on their own, they're judged on their own. He's everything wrong with police and politics. Just lie until caught.

chaos · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:13:42 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 31, 2016, 08:08:34 PM

Point is, the former COP that works for trump LIED to the public and ACCUSED her of making up being touched.

He's a POS liar... and he's likely going to be Trump's chief of staff. more reasons not to elect his liberal ass.

Someone involved in politics lying? ? Say it ain't so!

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #40 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:16:38 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 31, 2016, 08:12:53 PM

hilary belongs in a jail cell.

But this POS cannot accuse someone of lying and put his hands on a woman - and lie about it - because hilary did something worse.

imagine Jeffrey Dahmer telling the judge "Bro, you gotta let me go... I killed like 20 people... I mean, Stalin killed MILLIONS... these 20 kills are the LEAST important ones"

His crime and lies stand on their own, they're judged on their own. He's everything wrong with police and politics. Just lie until caught.

You are overreacting and spending time talking about nothing. This is just a day in the life of any Presidential reporter. Nothing to see, a joke.

Even if your explanation of what happened is 100% accurate, this "scandal" is nothing.....less than nothing....fake.

240 is Back · « **Reply #41 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:21:41 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:16:38 PM

You are overreacting and spending time talking about nothing. This is just a day in the life of any Presidential reporter. Nothing to see, a joke.

Even if your explanation of what happened is 100% accurate, this "scandal" is nothing.....less than nothing....fake.

I said she's being a whiny idiot drama queen.

And I think if he says he did touch her because she was making a threatening move (in florida) at Trump, I don't think he's charged. But he outright lied, and he accused the accuser of lying and being delusional. That's dangerous - people with a big platform calling accusers crazy in public...

He's not credible, so he's getting charged. I think prosecutor is only doing it because he lied about it, make their job harder. It happened in FL, he would have walked. but he was cocky and rude and stupid and that rubs people wrong who make the decision to prosecute.

Also, fck that guy... he's an ex-cop who shoves women when he doens't like where they stand. SCrew that punk ass guy, that's what I think. Aren't we all tired of things, in the united states, where an ex-cop will shove a woman, and call her crazy and say she made it up? Screw that guy, he's a POS for it.

I'm guessing most people defending him also see a police beatdown tape and say "well, you don't know all the circumstances..."

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #42 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:26:01 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 31, 2016, 08:21:41 PM

I said she's being a whiny idiot drama queen.

And I think if he says he did touch her because she was making a threatening move (in florida) at Trump, I don't think he's charged. But he outright lied, and he accused the accuser of lying and being delusional. That's dangerous - people with a big platform calling accusers crazy in public...

He's not credible, so he's getting charged. I think prosecutor is only doing it because he lied about it, make their job harder. It happened in FL, he would have walked. but he was cocky and rude and stupid and that rubs people wrong who make the decision to prosecute.

Also, fck that guy... he's an ex-cop who shoves women when he doens't like where they stand. SCrew that punk ass guy, that's what I think. Aren't we all tired of things, in the united states, where an ex-cop will shove a woman, and call her crazy and say she made it up? Screw that guy, he's a POS for it.

I'm guessing most people defending him also see a police beatdown tape and say "well, you don't know all the circumstances..."

He's not the one running for office. Who gives a shit about his credibility?

chaos · « **Reply #43 on:** March 31, 2016, 08:43:28 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:26:01 PM

He's not the one running for office. Who gives a shit about his credibility?

Weird how so many people are interested in trying to discredit and stop Trump by way of scandal rather than exposing him on the debate platform.

240 is Back · « **Reply #44 on:** March 31, 2016, 10:13:05 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:26:01 PM

He's not the one running for office. Who gives a shit about his credibility?

So we shouldn't judge a person by the people around him or her, hired by him or her, who give advice to him or her?

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2016, 10:18:35 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 31, 2016, 10:13:05 PM

So we shouldn't judge a person by the people around him or her, hired by him or her, who give advice to him or her?

For a fake scandal like this, no.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 01, 2016, 08:23:34 AM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:05:40 PM

After NBA Finals games, I've seen reporters physically grab players or their jerseys and pull them to make sure that they are the one that gets the post-game interview.

That is just one small example but I think that any reporter should expect some grabbing, pushing and jostling in a crowd when trying to get questions answered.

They do it, and it is done to them....all the fucking time. Go sue yourself you stupid bitch. Either that or get a desk job where you won't be touched.

If we agree with everything you just said.. it still doesn't change the fact the campaign manager for Trump lied...

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 01, 2016, 08:30:20 AM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on March 31, 2016, 08:26:01 PM

He's not the one running for office. Who gives a shit about his credibility?

It works like this.. Trump has applied for President of the United States. We have experienced politicians cover up for their administrations in the past, and we said we didn't like it. We said we want our government officials to be held accountable when they are caught doing something wrong. Enter the incident where an employee of Trump, a high level employee is caught doing something wrong. Lying about putting his hands on someone and then trying to discredit that person as delusional. Here is a perfect time for Trump to demonstrate he wont be like the others and cover up for his friends or he will be just like the rest. He chose to be just like the rest. Trump supporters, by saying this is no big deal, have let us know they consider Trump ignoring when a person under his supervision/control is found to be unethical, they're okay with it if he takes no action. That pretty much sums up the issue. If lying and falsely disparaging someone in order to cover up the lie is fine then you are right.. nothing to see here.

OzmO · « **Reply #48 on:** April 01, 2016, 08:38:15 AM »

Good post, good point

Dos Equis · « **Reply #49 on:** April 01, 2016, 10:22:40 AM »

Quote from: Agnostic007 on April 01, 2016, 08:30:20 AM

It works like this.. Trump has applied for President of the United States. We have experienced politicians cover up for their administrations in the past, and we said we didn't like it. We said we want our government officials to be held accountable when they are caught doing something wrong. Enter the incident where an employee of Trump, a high level employee is caught doing something wrong. Lying about putting his hands on someone and then trying to discredit that person as delusional. Here is a perfect time for Trump to demonstrate he wont be like the others and cover up for his friends or he will be just like the rest. He chose to be just like the rest. Trump supporters, by saying this is no big deal, have let us know they consider Trump ignoring when a person under his supervision/control is found to be unethical, they're okay with it if he takes no action. That pretty much sums up the issue. If lying and falsely disparaging someone in order to cover up the lie is fine then you are right.. nothing to see here.

Truth. He isn't some kind of principled outsider. He's a part of the machine.