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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #425 on: April 29, 2016, 05:03:17 PM »
Videos to witnesses that saw this missle? I assume a this missle would be fired from some kind of ship and travel over land to the Pentagon?

I wondered this, too.  Looks like the/a claim is that it was launched from a closed road.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #426 on: April 29, 2016, 05:11:29 PM »

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer story, and you are still owned!!!

completely untrue.  that didn't happen. Its obvious you don't know what happened on 9/11

mean while

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Hey Bozo the room temperature IQ guy, why don't you spell the beens on what happened that day according to the official conspiracy report of 9/11 then? It's obvious I'm pretty lost, and you have the inside scoop and could clarify for us who did 9/11 and how it went down.



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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #427 on: April 29, 2016, 06:26:41 PM »
It's all fishy, just like Flight 800 being shot down.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #428 on: April 29, 2016, 11:36:41 PM »
How do you know that? Could be they wanted more assurance. Who knows? Trying to guess why they did this or that is irrelevant. That's like trying to figure out why a serial killer decided on killing 8 vs 10 or 20 people. All that matters is looking at the facts and the fact is a plane did not hit the Pentagon. End of story.
now you just need to establish and prove what did hit the Pentagon.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #429 on: April 30, 2016, 02:07:03 AM »
Responding to El Diablo asshats comment: "How come all Jews that worked in the WTC happened to not be there that day"?

Now when I wonder how thinking Americans could re-elect Obama and believe the jews plotted against the US, I don't have to wonder.  El Diablo and his buddies from Saudi who have never been seen again and the intelligence under a patriotic president made sure who our enemy was. Period. Believe it was the Jews Diablo and Ted Kennedy didn't drive that night either. It was a Jew named Barry Goldwater. Really. Pass it on...... Toolbox.







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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #430 on: April 30, 2016, 08:23:50 AM »
The two planes hitting the towers would have done the job as far as creating a reason to go to war, why go to all the trouble of controlled explosions?

Watch the video below for a full explanation:



But the short story is, the twin towers were full of asbestos and would have cost billions of dollars to get rid of it. But because of it's size they could not be demolish them(legally) and because of the asbestos they couldn't be upgraded.

The port authority of NY took it to court to have the insurers paid for it, in which it dragged until may of 2001 believe it or not. By that time George Bush Junior had become our president, and Lary Silverstone and Frank Lowly had purchased the lease on this 2 worthless building and double the insurance policy against terrorist attacks.

And this is the reality that is beyond fiction, and people refuse to believe. They say is easier to keep the population dupe than to try make them understand they have be taken for a ride. Professional "wrasling"  a la WWE been the perfect example of the perpetual stupidity a lot of people choose to  live in our country.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #431 on: April 30, 2016, 09:19:35 AM »
Watch the video below for a full explanation:



But the short story is, the twin towers were full of asbestos and would have cost billions of dollars to get rid of it. But because of it's size they could not be demolish them(legally) and because of the asbestos they couldn't be upgraded.

The port authority of NY took it to court to have the insurers paid for it, in which it dragged until may of 2001 believe it or not. By that time George Bush Junior had become our president, and Lary Silverstone and Frank Lowly had purchased the lease on this 2 worthless building and double the insurance policy against terrorist attacks.

And this is the reality that is beyond fiction, and people refuse to believe. They say is easier to keep the population dupe than to try make them understand they have be taken for a ride. Professional "wrasling"  a la WWE been the perfect example of the perpetual stupidity a lot of people choose to  live in our country.




Amazing that you had to create a gimmick to spew such hot garbage.
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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #432 on: April 30, 2016, 09:51:45 AM »
Watch the video below for a full explanation:



But the short story is, the twin towers were full of asbestos and would have cost billions of dollars to get rid of it. But because of it's size they could not be demolish them(legally) and because of the asbestos they couldn't be upgraded.

The port authority of NY took it to court to have the insurers paid for it, in which it dragged until may of 2001 believe it or not. By that time George Bush Junior had become our president, and Lary Silverstone and Frank Lowly had purchased the lease on this 2 worthless building and double the insurance policy against terrorist attacks.

And this is the reality that is beyond fiction, and people refuse to believe. They say is easier to keep the population dupe than to try make them understand they have be taken for a ride. Professional "wrasling"  a la WWE been the perfect example of the perpetual stupidity a lot of people choose to  live in our country.


top tip, Youtube videos made by conspiracy theorists do not constitute evidence.

just think about this statement
But the short story is, the twin towers were full of asbestos and would have cost billions of dollars to get rid of it. But because of it's size they could not be demolish them(legally) and because of the asbestos they couldn't be upgraded.
It would have cost billions to demolish them but they couldnt have done it legally????
Could they demolish them or not you daft twat?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #433 on: April 30, 2016, 09:58:47 AM »
I don't even know where this 'going to war' stuff comes from.  There was a much bigger fish to fry, which was the ability for surveillance which hadn't previously existed.  

War couldn't have been more than a minor side dish by comparison.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #434 on: April 30, 2016, 10:10:42 AM »

Amazing that you had to create a gimmick to spew such hot garbage.


Facts:

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had been losing money on the towers for years because of low tenancy. The financial loss was the real issue. There was also another vital issue – asbestos! The towers had become an albatross sitting on the most valuable piece of real estate in the world. The Port Authority had three choices: sell or lease them, pay for expensive asbestos removal or demolish them. The Authority had tried for years but were unable to sell the buildings – after all, what fool would take on the liability of asbestos? They couldn’t demolish it. The health hazard of asbestos powder blanketing New York was legally unthinkable and totally out of the question. Expensive asbestos removal seemed to be the only option.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna39.htm

“U.S. District Judge John W. Bissell in early February threw out the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey's final claims in a longstanding suit against dozens of insurers over coverage of more than $600 million in asbestos abatement costs at the World Trade Center, New York's three major airports and other Port Authority properties.”

“Granting summary judgment for the insurers in his May 1 ruling, Judge Bissell found among other things that the costs of removing asbestos do not constitute ‘physical loss or damage’ triggering coverage under the Port Authority's all-risk policies.”

“A Port Authority spokesman said the agency is reviewing the ruling and has not decided whether to appeal.”

“The ruling ends the trial phase of a decade-long court battle that began when the Port Authority sued its property insurers in 1991 in a New Jersey state court.

“The suit sought recovery of the Port Authority's huge expenses of removing asbestos from hundreds of properties ranging from the enormous World Trade Center complex-which represented more than $200 million of the abatement costs-to bridge and tunnel toll booths.”
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna39.htm

March 20, 2001 “Silverstein Properties, Inc., and Westfield America, Inc. will lease the Twin Towers, completed in 1972 at a cost of $370 million, and other portions of the complex in a deal worth approximately $3.2 billion – the city's richest real estate deal ever and one of the largest privatization initiatives in history.” The cost of this lease was for a fraction of their real value.
(referencing http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein.html)
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna39.htm


A federal jury on Monday ruled that the assault on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center was in fact two occurrences for insurance purposes. The finding in U.S. District Court in Manhattan means leaseholder Larry Silverstein may collect up to $4.6 billion, according to reports. [Forbes.com 12/06/04]

Keep being a crack pot - you're good at it! You tin foil hat nut!!! Another goverment nutjob shill on display!!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #435 on: April 30, 2016, 10:11:53 AM »
Facts:

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had been losing money on the towers for years because of low tenancy. The financial loss was the real issue. There was also another vital issue – asbestos! The towers had become an albatross sitting on the most valuable piece of real estate in the world. The Port Authority had three choices: sell or lease them, pay for expensive asbestos removal or demolish them. The Authority had tried for years but were unable to sell the buildings – after all, what fool would take on the liability of asbestos? They couldn’t demolish it. The health hazard of asbestos powder blanketing New York was legally unthinkable and totally out of the question. Expensive asbestos removal seemed to be the only option.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna39.htm

“U.S. District Judge John W. Bissell in early February threw out the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey's final claims in a longstanding suit against dozens of insurers over coverage of more than $600 million in asbestos abatement costs at the World Trade Center, New York's three major airports and other Port Authority properties.”

“Granting summary judgment for the insurers in his May 1 ruling, Judge Bissell found among other things that the costs of removing asbestos do not constitute ‘physical loss or damage’ triggering coverage under the Port Authority's all-risk policies.”

“A Port Authority spokesman said the agency is reviewing the ruling and has not decided whether to appeal.”

“The ruling ends the trial phase of a decade-long court battle that began when the Port Authority sued its property insurers in 1991 in a New Jersey state court.

“The suit sought recovery of the Port Authority's huge expenses of removing asbestos from hundreds of properties ranging from the enormous World Trade Center complex-which represented more than $200 million of the abatement costs-to bridge and tunnel toll booths.”
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna39.htm

March 20, 2001 “Silverstein Properties, Inc., and Westfield America, Inc. will lease the Twin Towers, completed in 1972 at a cost of $370 million, and other portions of the complex in a deal worth approximately $3.2 billion – the city's richest real estate deal ever and one of the largest privatization initiatives in history.” The cost of this lease was for a fraction of their real value.
(referencing http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein.html)
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna39.htm


A federal jury on Monday ruled that the assault on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center was in fact two occurrences for insurance purposes. The finding in U.S. District Court in Manhattan means leaseholder Larry Silverstein may collect up to $4.6 billion, according to reports. [Forbes.com 12/06/04]

Keep being a crack pot - you're good at it! You tin foil hat nut!!! Another goverment nutjob shill on display!!!

in a word:

OWNED!!!



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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #436 on: April 30, 2016, 10:20:15 AM »
Feel free to post your parent's address so we'll know what basement you are posting from

And this is the reality that is beyond fiction, and people refuse to believe. They say is easier to keep the population dupe than to try make them understand they have be taken for a ride. Professional "wrasling"  a la WWE been the perfect example of the perpetual stupidity a lot of people choose to  live in our country.

We can keep this all day until somebody is ban here, but you are still OWNED!!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #437 on: April 30, 2016, 10:23:32 AM »
And this is the reality that is beyond fiction, and people refuse to believe. They say is easier to keep the population dupe than to try make them understand they have be taken for a ride. Professional "wrasling"  a la WWE been the perfect example of the perpetual stupidity a lot of people choose to  live in our country.

We can keep this all day until somebody is ban here, but you are still OWNED!!!

Proof!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M

OWNED!!!!
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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #438 on: April 30, 2016, 10:29:18 AM »
Proof!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M

OWNED!!!!

This Silverstone individual tried to double dip on the tragedy of that day:

Facts again:

World Trade Center owner Larry Silverstein – who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7 – will appear in the courtroom of Judge Alvin Hellerstein at 500 Pearl St. in New York City. The non-jury trial, which is expected to last three days, will decide whether Silverstein is entitled to recover $3.5 billion from airlines and airport-related companies, in addition to the $4.9 billion he has already received for his “losses” on September 11th.

https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/will-larry-silverstein-ever-be-brought-to-justice-for-911-insurance-fraud-by-dr-kevin-barrett/

Fictional hot garbage, eh?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #439 on: April 30, 2016, 10:38:58 AM »
This Silverstone individual tried to double dip on the tragedy of that day:

Facts again:

World Trade Center owner Larry Silverstein – who confessed on national television to “pulling” World Trade Center Building 7 – will appear in the courtroom of Judge Alvin Hellerstein at 500 Pearl St. in New York City. The non-jury trial, which is expected to last three days, will decide whether Silverstein is entitled to recover $3.5 billion from airlines and airport-related companies, in addition to the $4.9 billion he has already received for his “losses” on September 11th.

https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/will-larry-silverstein-ever-be-brought-to-justice-for-911-insurance-fraud-by-dr-kevin-barrett/

Fictional hot garbage, eh?

Forever OWNED!!!

Darkmoon.me  ???

Seems legit to me...  ::) ::) ::)

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Dr Lasha Darkmoon (b.1978) is an anglo-American ex-academic with higher degrees in Classics whose  political articles have been translated into several languages. Most of these can be found at The Occidental Observer and The TruthSeeker, but others on a variety of different topics—such as philosophy, religion, art and poetry—will be found here. This website, darkmoon.me, which is named after Lasha Darkmoon but is owned and edited entirely by her cousin John Scott Montecristo, is now within the top 1 percent of websites in the world according to the Alexa ranking system.

Because of her radical political ideas in regard to 9-11 and the role played by organized Jewry in international affairs—ideas that would alienate her friends and family and make them ostracize her—Lasha Darkmoon is forced to conceal her true identity at the present time under a pen name.

Indian mysticism remains Lasha Darkmoon’s chief influence. Though echoes of her favorite poets—Blake, Keats, Baudelaire, Yeats, and TS Eliot—may sometimes be heard in her verse, Darkmoon’s work is marked above all by a lush exoticism and otherworldliness.
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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #440 on: April 30, 2016, 11:23:03 AM »
Typical goverment shill tactic, when one can't refute the facts, attack the messenger:

Facts:

Insurance dispute
The insurance policies for World Trade Center buildings 1 WTC, 2 WTC, 4 WTC and 5 WTC had a collective face amount of $3.55 billion. Following the September 11, 2001, attacks, Silverstein sought to collect double the face amount (~$7.1 billion) on the basis that the two separate airplane strikes into two separate buildings constituted two occurrences within the meaning of the policies. The insurance companies took the opposite view, and the matter went to court. Based on differences in the definition of "occurrence" (the insurance policy term governing the amount of insurance) and uncertainties over which definition of "occurrence" applied, the court split the insurers into two groups for jury trials on the question of which definition of "occurrence" applied and whether the insurance contracts were subject to the "one occurrence" interpretation or the "two occurrence" interpretation.

The first trial resulted in a verdict on April 29, 2004, that 10 of the insurers in this group were subject to the "one occurrence" interpretation, so their liability was limited to the face value of those policies, and 3 insurers were added to the second trial group.[23][24] The jury was unable to reach a verdict on one insurer, Swiss Reinsurance, at that time, but did so several days later on May 3, 2004, finding that this company was also subject to the "one occurrence" interpretation.[25] Silverstein appealed the Swiss Re decision, but lost that appeal on October 19, 2006.[26] The second trial resulted in a verdict on December 6, 2004, that 9 insurers were subject to the "two occurrences" interpretation and, therefore, liable for a maximum of double the face value of those particular policies ($2.2 billion).[27] The total potential payout, therefore, was capped at $4.577 billion for buildings 1, 2, 4, and 5.[28] An appraisal followed to determine the value of the insured loss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #441 on: April 30, 2016, 11:28:33 AM »
At the end of the day, my main point stands and is the fact that on 9/11 of 2001 was a day that  defied the laws of physics.

One of our tallest skyscraper disintegrated in an unbelievable 12 seconds because of debilitated steel due to jet fuel and office fire and it's construction on a prefabricated modular pieces.

Some how that day 15 floors crushed 95 floors straight to it's base, taking the path of most resistance straight down almost at the speed of gravity, disintegrating concrete and lunching steel been 600 yards to the side.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #442 on: April 30, 2016, 11:31:17 AM »
At the end of the day, my main point stands and is the fact that on 9/11 of 2001 was a day that  defied the laws of physics.

One of our tallest skyscraper disintegrated in an unbelievable 12 seconds because of debilitated steel due to jet fuel and office fire and it's construction on a prefabricated modular pieces.

Some how that day 15 floors crushed 95 floors straight to it's base, taking the path of most resistance straight down almost at the speed of gravity, disintegrating concrete and lunching steel been 600 yards to the side.



I don't think you understand how a progressive collapse works.   :-\

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #443 on: April 30, 2016, 11:32:46 AM »
Typical goverment shill tactic, when one can't refute the facts, attack the messenger:


Who has the gimmick accounts here? Ropo, Ozmo, Yamcha, and the list just keeps getting bigger. Would anybody else would like to tag in with this looser?


Can't really "Refute the facts" from the opinion piece from a woman named Darkmoon.




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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #444 on: April 30, 2016, 11:49:03 AM »
I don't even know where this 'going to war' stuff comes from.  There was a much bigger fish to fry, which was the ability for surveillance which hadn't previously existed.  

War couldn't have been more than a minor side dish by comparison.

Survey who?
You to see what you are looking for on the internet or where you do your shopping, why the fuck do you think people are interested in surveying and spying on people FFS.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #445 on: April 30, 2016, 11:52:56 AM »
At the end of the day, my main point stands and is the fact that on 9/11 of 2001 was a day that  defied the laws of physics.

One of our tallest skyscraper disintegrated in an unbelievable 12 seconds because of debilitated steel due to jet fuel and office fire and it's construction on a prefabricated modular pieces.

Some how that day 15 floors crushed 95 floors straight to it's base, taking the path of most resistance straight down almost at the speed of gravity, disintegrating concrete and lunching steel been 600 yards to the side.



look dickhead, I posted this before, read it.
http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm

and seeing as you like videos as proof

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #446 on: April 30, 2016, 12:03:11 PM »
Survey who?
You to see what you are looking for on the internet or where you do your shopping, why the fuck do you think people are interested in surveying and spying on people FFS.

Anyone desiring to work in the political realm, and most certainly to do that for the worse, has every conceivable reason to want every bit of information in existence.

Please tell me you are kidding.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #447 on: April 30, 2016, 12:10:55 PM »
Anyone desiring to work in the political realm, and most certainly to do that for the worse, has every conceivable reason to want every bit of information in existence.

Please tell me you are kidding.
to do what with , and why would you need to blow up two buildings in order to do it.

Fuck me, everyone with a computer has an IP address and enough cookies loaded up for anyone to spy on you if they wanted to.

Google has all your internet history and every page you have ever visited from now until the end of time.

Fucking lol....

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #448 on: April 30, 2016, 12:15:52 PM »
to do what with , and why would you need to blow up two buildings in order to do it.

Fuck me, everyone with a computer has an IP address and enough cookies loaded up for anyone to spy on you if they wanted to.

Google has all your internet history and every page you have ever visited from now until the end of time.

Fucking lol....


To make it legal.  That's why.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #449 on: April 30, 2016, 12:46:58 PM »
To make it legal.  That's why.


They make the laws you daft twat, they can make anything legal with the stroke of a pen, why do they need to fly planes into buildings.

Fuck me do you ever think things through?