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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2016, 07:00:36 AM »
This Ropo character is a funny guy.  He actually believes the official US government story/explanation of 9/11.  Sounds/acts just like a government anti-conspiracy shill.

Quite obvious ain't it.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2016, 07:55:36 AM »
As a veteran, my #1 question is WHY WHY WHY won't they release all the video around the Pentagon and the supposed "Airplane" which crashed into it??
WHY did they find NO plane parts in the Pentagon??
*** Could it be it was a Hellfire Missile???????   ;)

Within moments of the attacks the FBI confiscated every single security camera video within sight of the Pentagon.  This is well documented.  A cruise missed hit the Pentagon. 

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2016, 08:48:43 AM »
Within moments of the attacks the FBI confiscated every single security camera video within sight of the Pentagon.  This is well documented.  A cruise missed hit the Pentagon. 
what is your source of information? where is it documented?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2016, 09:59:57 AM »
As a veteran, my #1 question is WHY WHY WHY won't they release all the video around the Pentagon and the supposed "Airplane" which crashed into it??
WHY did they find NO plane parts in the Pentagon??
*** Could it be it was a Hellfire Missile???????   ;)

Why won't they release the video/photos of Osama's bacon wrapped corpse getting dumped into the sea?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #104 on: April 19, 2016, 10:18:32 AM »
strong denial in this thread...lmao the official 9/11 is the biggest crock of shit in the world and most outside of the US of A know it is....you fools need to wake the fuck up and stop drinking the fluoride!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2016, 10:24:38 AM »
“I was down there, and I watch our police and our firemen down on 7-Eleven, down at the World Trade Center, right after it came down and I saw the greatest people I have ever seen in action.”

- Trump, today.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2016, 10:32:09 AM »
This Ropo character is a funny guy.  He actually believes the official US government story/explanation of 9/11.  Sounds/acts just like a government anti-conspiracy shill.
^^
You get these 9/11 Apologists posting all over the place, usually personally attacking people who ACTUALLY fought for our country and have experience...
They fly the "false flag", and are the true Bizarro Supermen of America.
I'd LOVE to just ONE DAY find one of these arseholes and slap them, publicly.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2016, 10:40:52 AM »
The same people who say that it was a huge, elaborate conspiracy by the US govt. are the same people who complain about the US govt. being completely incompetent.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #108 on: April 19, 2016, 10:58:21 AM »
Yes, according the pilots for 911 truth, it is quite impossible to do so...which makes you wonder how in the name of god these pilots has being able to landing any aeroplane, because that needs quite a lot more accuracy. Instead of hitting 450 meters wide building, you have to hit to the end of runway only 20 meters wide  ;D

What you see in that video, is a flash of burning jet fuel, and by that you can calculate how much of it is needed to make fireball as big as that. Quite simple, because you know what fuel/air mixture would flash, you know the height of the building etc. facts. Of course there is no way to get the exact measure, but all that makes possible to do quite accurate approximation: something between 12 000 and 16 000 metric tons. Just ask from yourself what kind of missile would carry that amount of  fuel?

when I see a plane land on a runway I have no problem whatsoever seeing the actual plane


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2016, 12:15:45 PM »
9/11 helped the Bush Administration do a lot.  They formed Dept of Homeland Security within months.  You think this useless gov can form a 100K+ people department on a whim or have it planned for years and be ready to execute?  they got backing 100% from everyone in the Senate and Congress to go to war.  They had "patriots" lined up outside of recruiting centers to join the military.  it was a well executed plan.  Did the US Gov do 9/11?  No, but did they know it was happening and let it happen? Yes.
Anyone asking for proof.  Just google the Rumself, Cheney Document on how American needs to protect itself in the new Century.  Fuck it, I'll do it for you.  Look at all of the names in there and how every single one of them ended up in Bush's cabinet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2016, 01:47:33 PM »
OMG  :o

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #111 on: April 19, 2016, 02:00:37 PM »
No, but I believe that morons like you are insanely eager to believe the crap which doesn't include any evidence what so ever..For example, you haven't being able to prove any of your claims. Why don't you start from that instead of that whining?

You believe WTC 7 fell into it's own footprint because???

A blithering idiot you are.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #112 on: April 19, 2016, 03:02:53 PM »
Mr. Roper devoting hours to setting the record straight in this here thread.

What a goober.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #113 on: April 19, 2016, 03:31:19 PM »

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #114 on: April 20, 2016, 02:42:21 AM »
The Jews did it! Fact!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #115 on: April 20, 2016, 03:46:10 AM »
Within moments of the attacks the FBI confiscated every single security camera video within sight of the Pentagon.  This is well documented.  A cruise missed hit the Pentagon.  

And this prove a) there was investigation regarding attack and they confiscated security cameras to seek evidence b) you are an idiot c) you are an idiot, drooling on your shoes. Take your pick..

If there will be suicide bomber in your nearest 7- eleven, investigators still confiscate all security videos, because it is basic crime scene protocol. If they don't do that, they would be incompetent morons, just like you.

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You get these 9/11 Apologists posting all over the place, usually personally attacking people who ACTUALLY fought for our country and have experience...
They fly the "false flag", and are the true Bizarro Supermen of America.
I'd LOVE to just ONE DAY find one of these arseholes and slap them, publicly.

I just try to point out the fact, that believing that foil hat crap even without asking for any kind of evidence for their stories prove that you are an idiot. This is a fact, and you are voluntarily presenting yourself as an idiot because of that. I repeat: NO ONE BETWEEN 9.11.2001 AND PRESENT DAY HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVE ANY KIND ON EXPLOSION IN ANY OF THE VIDEOS ABOUT THE 9/11 ATTAC. ONLY WAY THIS IS POSSIBLE IS THAT THERE ISN'T ANY.  Why don't you morons understand that simple truth? And furthermore, why can't you present any evidence about those explosions? Wouldn't that be the best way to slap me? Why don't you guys humiliate me by presenting those evidences? I promise that I go away and never return, IF you are able to show even one real explosion in any original 9/11 video material? I know as a fact that you can't do it, because there isn't any.  And I am a stupid here? You have been feed with the foil hat bullshit made by insane idiots, and you don't hesitate even a second to believe it all, without asking how they have prove their claims. Just try to explain how that kind of idiotism make you a better man than me?

9/11 helped the Bush Administration do a lot.  They formed Dept of Homeland Security within months.  You think this useless gov can form a 100K+ people department on a whim or have it planned for years and be ready to execute?  they got backing 100% from everyone in the Senate and Congress to go to war.  They had "patriots" lined up outside of recruiting centers to join the military.  it was a well executed plan.  Did the US Gov do 9/11?  No, but did they know it was happening and let it happen? Yes.
Anyone asking for proof.  Just google the Rumself, Cheney Document on how American needs to protect itself in the new Century.  Fuck it, I'll do it for you.  Look at all of the names in there and how every single one of them ended up in Bush's cabinet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century


Name all the USA non war situations, where were + 2000 casualties?  Oops...I did it again? 9/11 was first this kind of happening, so would it be possible that administration just learn their lesson and formed a department which take care of these kind of amounts of casualties? You see, there isn't any organization which could handle + 2000 dead bodies within days or even weeks, so what they should do? Pile those corpses to backyard to rotten? Make one big hole on the ground and kick them in it? But if there is department which has potential to handle that kind of logistic, would it be a bad thing? What would you say if that homeland security happens to be for your own security? Why that isn't even an option? There is real  and increasing risk of the nuclear disaster in USA because terrorist are eager to try with dirty bombs etc. instruments, and suddenly there will be + 200 000 bodies. What kind of logistic you think is needed to dispose that amount of rotting corpses? Shovel and wheelbarrow?


You believe WTC 7 fell into it's own footprint because???

A blithering idiot you are.

As I say, it is a proved fact that parts of collapsing WTC 1 hit the WTC 7, and it was on fire about 8 hours after that, and collapse. Only reason to think that there is something odd in this situation, is stupidity which makes you unable to use your brains. Just like there is zero buildings other than WTC towers which are hit by the aeroplanes, there isn't any other building which has hit by the parts of lot higher, collapsing building, so in reality you cannot have any vision how it should collapse. All what you have is your imagination, and the crap which you have find from the internet. I have linked lots of videos which prove that foil hats knowingly lies about this collapse, but your blind faith make it impossible to you to understand. Unfortunately, people with blind faith are just stupid. You should build your opinion on the proven facts, not on the rumors, lies and blind faith. And did any of these buildings really fell in it's own footprint? That's simply isn't true at all. In fact there is plenty of pictures which proves that they fell all over the place, and over WTC 7. You see, if someone say they fell in their own footprint, you should ask him to prove it. And that you never have done. Instead of that, you embrace even the silliest lies without any hesitation, and then you are blaming me, who is skeptical towards that evident crap? Grow up, little child..

Mr. Roper devoting hours to setting the record straight in this here thread.

What a goober.

What ever. But can you explain why for example you cannot point any real explosion from any of the videos about the 9/11 attack?  Doesn't that bother you at all, that even I have been screaming for the evidence all over the place, there is none foil hat who would shut me up by presenting them? Why I am using time for this kind of crap? It is hilarious to see how incompetent you guys are, and how you are literally forcing yourself to believe that crap. It has to be silliest thing in the internet, bunch of drooling idiots crawling in circles around the pile of bullshit  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #116 on: April 20, 2016, 03:57:31 AM »
Steel framed buildings do NOT collapse because of fire.  Plenty examples of this.



You're spending a awful lot of time trying to debunk people here and you're not making any progress at all.  Is someone paying you to spew false government propaganda?  All you're doing here is stating your own personal opinions, which mean nothing. 

Do you not believe your own eyes?...


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #117 on: April 20, 2016, 04:00:47 AM »
And yet the "civilized" world keeps giving the fundamentally evil Islam a pass. With each and every horrific action done in its sky god's name.

Fuck the world and all its weakness.

Fuck the radical liberal who is ruining once-proud and strong nations.  


This ^^^

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #118 on: April 20, 2016, 11:14:50 AM »
And this prove a) there was investigation regarding attack and they confiscated security cameras to seek evidence b) you are an idiot c) you are an idiot, drooling on your shoes. Take your pick..

If there will be suicide bomber in your nearest 7- eleven, investigators still confiscate all security videos, because it is basic crime scene protocol. If they don't do that, they would be incompetent morons, just like you.

I just try to point out the fact, that believing that foil hat crap even without asking for any kind of evidence for their stories prove that you are an idiot. This is a fact, and you are voluntarily presenting yourself as an idiot because of that. I repeat: NO ONE BETWEEN 9.11.2001 AND PRESENT DAY HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVE ANY KIND ON EXPLOSION IN ANY OF THE VIDEOS ABOUT THE 9/11 ATTAC. ONLY WAY THIS IS POSSIBLE IS THAT THERE ISN'T ANY.  Why don't you morons understand that simple truth? And furthermore, why can't you present any evidence about those explosions? Wouldn't that be the best way to slap me? Why don't you guys humiliate me by presenting those evidences? I promise that I go away and never return, IF you are able to show even one real explosion in any original 9/11 video material? I know as a fact that you can't do it, because there isn't any.  And I am a stupid here? You have been feed with the foil hat bullshit made by insane idiots, and you don't hesitate even a second to believe it all, without asking how they have prove their claims. Just try to explain how that kind of idiotism make you a better man than me?

Name all the USA non war situations, where were + 2000 casualties?  Oops...I did it again? 9/11 was first this kind of happening, so would it be possible that administration just learn their lesson and formed a department which take care of these kind of amounts of casualties? You see, there isn't any organization which could handle + 2000 dead bodies within days or even weeks, so what they should do? Pile those corpses to backyard to rotten? Make one big hole on the ground and kick them in it? But if there is department which has potential to handle that kind of logistic, would it be a bad thing? What would you say if that homeland security happens to be for your own security? Why that isn't even an option? There is real  and increasing risk of the nuclear disaster in USA because terrorist are eager to try with dirty bombs etc. instruments, and suddenly there will be + 200 000 bodies. What kind of logistic you think is needed to dispose that amount of rotting corpses? Shovel and wheelbarrow?


As I say, it is a proved fact that parts of collapsing WTC 1 hit the WTC 7, and it was on fire about 8 hours after that, and collapse. Only reason to think that there is something odd in this situation, is stupidity which makes you unable to use your brains. Just like there is zero buildings other than WTC towers which are hit by the aeroplanes, there isn't any other building which has hit by the parts of lot higher, collapsing building, so in reality you cannot have any vision how it should collapse. All what you have is your imagination, and the crap which you have find from the internet. I have linked lots of videos which prove that foil hats knowingly lies about this collapse, but your blind faith make it impossible to you to understand. Unfortunately, people with blind faith are just stupid. You should build your opinion on the proven facts, not on the rumors, lies and blind faith. And did any of these buildings really fell in it's own footprint? That's simply isn't true at all. In fact there is plenty of pictures which proves that they fell all over the place, and over WTC 7. You see, if someone say they fell in their own footprint, you should ask him to prove it. And that you never have done. Instead of that, you embrace even the silliest lies without any hesitation, and then you are blaming me, who is skeptical towards that evident crap? Grow up, little child..

What ever. But can you explain why for example you cannot point any real explosion from any of the videos about the 9/11 attack?  Doesn't that bother you at all, that even I have been screaming for the evidence all over the place, there is none foil hat who would shut me up by presenting them? Why I am using time for this kind of crap? It is hilarious to see how incompetent you guys are, and how you are literally forcing yourself to believe that crap. It has to be silliest thing in the internet, bunch of drooling idiots crawling in circles around the pile of bullshit  ;D


You think out of the blue the Bush gov.  Remember I'll put it in bold.  THE BUSH GOV on a whim can whip up the Department of Homeland Security?  For fuck sakes man.  They've had this planned out.  The link I showed you is not a conspiracy link but an actual fact of a think tank formed years before Bush became president.  Remember what I am saying.  The US Gov didn't do it but they LET IT HAPPEN.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #119 on: April 20, 2016, 01:38:56 PM »
when I see a plane land on a runway I have no problem whatsoever seeing the actual plane



It might have something to do with a slow frame-rate compared to the action.  But I can't understand what they thought it would accomplish to release that.

Here's the other one.  If you look exactly at 1:26, on the right side of the screen, you'll see what's most likely it.  Best way is to set it around 1:20 or so, then pause it right as it gets to 1:26.  The frame after is the impact.

That's how I read it.  If I'm wrong, maybe someone could say so.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #120 on: April 20, 2016, 01:55:28 PM »
It might have something to do with a slow frame-rate compared to the action.  But I can't understand what they thought it would accomplish to release that.

Here's the other one.  If you look exactly at 1:26, on the right side of the screen, you'll see what's most likely it.  Best way is to set it around 1:20 or so, then pause it right as it gets to 1:26.  The frame after is the impact.

That's how I read it.  If I'm wrong, maybe someone could say so.



I looked at it and even froze and still don't see plane
Why is it that I can clearly see the structure of a plane when it is landing or even flying but I can't see one here

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #121 on: April 20, 2016, 02:04:37 PM »
I looked at it and even froze and still don't see plane
Why is it that I can clearly see the structure of a plane when it is landing or even flying but I can't see one here

What do you think it is, seen at 1:26, that goes on to hit the building as it does?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #122 on: April 20, 2016, 02:11:02 PM »
What do you think it is, seen at 1:26, that goes on to hit the building as it does?

I don't know




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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #123 on: April 20, 2016, 02:13:20 PM »
They've talked to numerous pilots, and not even an experienced pilot can fly a plane that low to the ground... It's impossible.. It was a missile.  It penetrated into the inner rings of the pentagon, the impact of a plane would not do this.. As far as explosions... Plenty of evidence.. They interviewed numerous firefighters that heard explosions, and said the towers fell just like a controlled demolition.  Those interviews conveniently disappeared.  That day 3 steel framed buildings collapsed into there own footprints..  First time in history... And all on the same day.   Those towers were designed to take multiple impacts from a 747 and stay standing, they also were designed where if impact occurred only a section of the building would collapse... Not the whole building into its own footprint... Pulverized concrete caused and enormous amount of dust... What pulverizes concrete?? Explosives... Jets routinely intercept off course planes.... That day they must have forgotten how to... The official story is pathetic... The rubble was quickly shipped off to China... Why?  To destroy evidence... Puddles of molten steel below the rubble that stayed hot for days and days... Why?  Thermite.  Official story is such a joke... Most everyone outside this country knows our government was directly involved.. More than 50% of Americans now believe our government was as well.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #124 on: April 20, 2016, 02:17:19 PM »
I don't know





Without more frames to look at, and without enhancement of the shadowed area, and assuming the perspective/proportion checks out, I'm willing to call it a plane.

But I didn't know it was out there so thanks for bringing it up.  It's really interesting.